From: owner-scribes@castle.org (scribes digest) To: scribes-digest@castle.org Subject: scribes digest V8 #81 Reply-To: Sender: owner-scribes@castle.org Errors-To: owner-scribes@castle.org Precedence: bulk scribes digest Saturday, November 9 2002 Volume 08 : Number 081 ======================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with unsubscribe scribes-digets in the body of the message. Leave the subject line blank. Do not include any additional text. [scribes]: AEthelmearc Heralds' & Scribes' [scribes]: Black dyes [scribes]: Period Paint Palettes [scribes]: emergency gum arabic question [scribes]: gum arabic results ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 18:27:18 EST From: RenScribe@aol.com Subject: [scribes]: AEthelmearc Heralds' & Scribes' - --part1_148.21c5201.2afaff56_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings all I just wanted to pass along the URL for the web page for the AEthelmearc Heralds' & Scribes' Collegium that will be held in the Shire of Nithgaard on November 22-24. http://www.eg.bucknell.edu/~whutchis/HandS/ On it you will find links to the full schedule, descriptions of the classes and bios on the teachers. Maitresse Yvianne AEthelmearc - --part1_148.21c5201.2afaff56_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings all

I just wanted to pass along the URL for the web page for the AEthelmearc Heralds' & Scribes' Collegium that will be held in the Shire of Nithgaard on November 22-24.

http://www.eg.bucknell.edu/~whutchis/HandS/

On it you will find links to the full schedule, descriptions of the classes and bios on the teachers.

Maitresse Yvianne
AEthelmearc - --part1_148.21c5201.2afaff56_boundary-- =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 14:38:39 -0500 From: Randy Asplund Subject: [scribes]: Black dyes Hi folks, I just thought that with the discussion about black ink manufacture and walnuts, you might be interested in this little tidbit that flashed across MidLaurel. The context is in making FABRIC dyes. It should NOT be considered documentation for ink, but merely a pointer for research. RanthulfR In the M.I.T.’s translation of the Plictho, they mention the following “gallotannic acid” dyes as used to achieve browns to black with an iron in 1548 Venice: Listed by common name, species name (Plictho name in Venetian Italian) Gallnuts, swelling on Mediterranean oak, Quercus lusitanica, (Galla, Galetto) Black alder, Alnus glutinosa (Honaro) Blackberry, Rubus fructicosus (Ruxo) Sumac or Redoul, Coriaria myrtifolia (Rozza) Sage, Salvia officinalis, (Salvia) Vallonea from the leaves of the acorn cups on the Quercus aegilops (Valonia) Walnut, Juglans regia (Noce) - -- VISIT RandyAsplund.com To see a Universe of art ranging from Magic: The Gathering to Star Trek and Medieval Manuscripts: Original Art & Prints for sale! Randy Asplund (734) 663-0954 Science Fiction and Fantasy Illustration 2101 S. Circle Dr., Ann Arbor, MI. 48103 =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 20:02:25 -1000 From: "Duibheasa" Subject: [scribes]: Period Paint Palettes Greetings, I am a long time lurker and have a question. I am assuming clam shells are period palettes, but does anyone have any references to the actual usage of shells besides pictures? Thanks, in advance, for any help!! Duibheasa Western Seas, Caid =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 13:37:25 -0600 From: "Melaena" Subject: [scribes]: emergency gum arabic question A quick question about gum arabic: I am out of powdered stuff and have some gum arabic crystals. I am teaching a class tomorrow with period pigments; I have never used the crystals. Is there something specific I have to do or do I just get them wet and use the sticky liquid? Any immediate help would be fantabulously appreciated. Margareta An Tir Gules, three sparks inverted and a bordure engrailed Or. =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 17:38:56 -0600 From: "Melaena" Subject: [scribes]: gum arabic results Well, I taught my class and the gum arabic worked fine, I brought in my hammer and we smashed them up then used my electric kettle and we heated water to pour on them, and let them sit for a couple of hours. By the time we were ready to use it we had a nice gooey paste...... yum! I brought a nylon stocking to sift it but it looked like being a very messy proposition in the classroom, so I just drained out some of the clear stuff from the top and threw the rest away. Not as cost efficient but I had a THOUSAND things to deal with (there was a full kit included) and it was so much easier. We mixed it up with their pigments and it stuck to the page fine. Anyway, thanks for all who responded, just wanted to let you know it worked fine. Margareta Montengarde Ithra Gules, three sparks inverted and a bordure engrailed Or. =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ End of scribes digest V8 #81 ****************************