From: owner-scribes@castle.org (scribes digest) To: scribes-digest@castle.org Subject: scribes digest V8 #56 Reply-To: Sender: owner-scribes@castle.org Errors-To: owner-scribes@castle.org Precedence: bulk scribes digest Sunday, September 15 2002 Volume 08 : Number 056 ======================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with unsubscribe scribes-digets in the body of the message. Leave the subject line blank. Do not include any additional text. Re: [scribes]: judging A&S - rubric for illumination Re: [scribes]: judging A&S - rubric for illumination Re: [scribes]: Going Buggy??? [scribes]: Going Buggy??? [scribes]: Administrivia - ISP losing it [scribes]: Speaking of squashed bug... Re: [scribes]: Fwd: Drachenwald Scriptorium 2002, reminder [scribes]: Codices Illustres Re: [scribes]: Going Buggy??? Re: [scribes]: judging A&S - rubric for illumination Re: [scribes]: speaking of earwax ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 11:16:39 -0500 From: "Amy L. Hornburg Heilveil" Subject: Re: [scribes]: judging A&S - rubric for illumination At 11:30 AM 9/13/2002 -0400, you wrote: >Do you ever wonder what judges at A&S competitions may be looking for??? > >A couple of years ago I was asked to help write a rubric (set of criteria >used to determine a score) for Illumination. Mistress Alicia Langland also >helped in writing this rubric. The score is based on a maximum of 5 points >in each of 6 categories ... aesthetics, authenticity, execution, >creativity, complexity & documentation. > >A couple of months ago I was asked what judges look for. I remembered the >rubric, but couldn't access it until recently. Now that I have it on my >computer again, with Alicia's agreement, I have posted it as a link from >the Cyber-scriptorium ... or as a more direct route, at: > >http://www.geocities.com/sca_scribe/rubric.html It's a lovely work. Gives great direction. If someone wants to look at the Middle Kingdom judging criteria for scribal work or any other A&S subject, they are all online here: http://www.midrealm.org/moas/criteria/contents.html Smiles, Despina - ---------- There are no short cuts to any place worth going. - --Source Unknown =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 11:57:33 -0500 (EST) From: john j cash Subject: Re: [scribes]: judging A&S - rubric for illumination Dear folks, I usually dislike ratings and competitions, but I found Yvaine's site to be pleasantly point-free. I DIDN"T like the bright flashing red/green cookie screen that came up once I signed off, asking "IS PORNOGRAPHY BOTHERING YOU???" But that's not her site's fault, just her provider's. - -- Johannes "Those who don't read ... have no advantage over those who can't" -- Mark Twain =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 13:06:01 -0400 (EDT) From: "Lyle H. Gray" Subject: Re: [scribes]: Going Buggy??? On Fri, 13 Sep 2002, Valerie Scarbrough wrote: > Greetings, > Okay, I have a silly question here......what is "squashed > bug"? I love the name, but I am not quite sure to what style > it refers. > Regards, > > Bethany It's a _trompe l'oeil_ illumination style, characterized by solid backgrounds, with flowers and insects in a realistic 3-dimensional style (including shadows) against that background. Since there are insects on the pages, it gained the nickname "squashed bug", because that's what would happen if you closed the book on a real bug... =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 10:28:08 -0600 From: "Valerie Scarbrough" Subject: [scribes]: Going Buggy??? Greetings, Okay, I have a silly question here......what is "squashed bug"? I love the name, but I am not quite sure to what style it refers. Regards, Bethany (Artemisia, mundanely Ogden, UT) =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 10:10:44 -0700 From: Lee Damon Subject: [scribes]: Administrivia - ISP losing it The ISP that I pay way too much money too every month has become quite useless this week. My DSL link has failed several times, and now DNS lookups are randomly failing with "doesn't exist" errors against castle.org. If you send mail to a mailing list on castle and it bounces with an "undeliverable" message, please re-send it. If you get a note saying "not delivered in 4 hours" *please do not re-send*. Sendmail will continue trying for 2-5 days, depending on the configuration your site uses. I am actively looking for a better DSL service in Seattle, but all the good ones seem to be busily going out of business. :( postmaster@castle.org nomad ----------- - Lee "nomad" Damon - \ play: nomad@castle.org or castle!nomad \ work: nomad@ee.washington.edu \ /\ Seneschal, Castle PAUS. / \ "Celebrate Diversity" / \ =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 13:23:38 -0700 From: Carolyn_Richardson@prosystemfx.com Subject: [scribes]: Speaking of squashed bug... Take a look at this eBay auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=906526386 I think that this might be a particularly unusual piece. You don't find islamic manuscripts with this kind of detail, or realistic representation, very often. Click on the "supersize" option - it's really fantastic how detailed this particular "squashed bug" is (although it's certainly not what we normally refer to as "squashed bug style" which is European.) Tetchubah Cry "Bother" and let loose the Poohs of war. =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 18:36:29 -0500 From: "Helen Schultz" Subject: Re: [scribes]: Fwd: Drachenwald Scriptorium 2002, reminder Although I won't be able to attend this event, I can say that the site is in fact a wonderful one. I was one of about 30 folk from Germany who took the train up to the A.S. XXI event at Wik Castle... it took us just over 24 hours from Frankfurt to Stockholm... and the last hour was within sight of the station -- the switches in the station had frozen and they couldn't get trains out!! We have T-shirts that say "I survived Nordmark Investiture A.S. -XXI" -- since that was the WARMEST it got, Celsius!! I have to say it was one of the most fun events, though. The castle is a dream (unless you want to cook a feast there... as I recall, there really was no kitchen). The feast the Nordmarkers provided was quite fantastic... didn't start until nearly 9pm and had 23 separate cold courses!! All delicious. Then, everyone danced until about 2 or 3am. The moonlight on the frozen lake behind the castle was totally breathtaking. I can just imagine how inspired people will be for a Scribal Symposium. Wish I could make it!! Meisterin Katarina Helene von Schoenborn Middle Kingdom =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 23:26:43 EDT From: Floriligeum@aol.com Subject: [scribes]: Codices Illustres - --part1_fd.1dc03243.2ab40673_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings to the list. After reading all of the posts a few weeks ago about the Codices Illustres book I emailed my Mom & sister to tell them that if they had not bought anything for my birthday that this book would be VERY well appreciated. Well, today is the big day and despite the fact that my Mom & sister are in California for a wedding my brother brought me the book. It weighs a ton and so far I have only flipped through the first 297 pages (out of 504) I can say that there are a lot of images I am familiar with and A LOT that I have never seen. I think this book will be thoroughly worn in quickly. I cant say this for sure yet, as I have only had it in my possession for a couple of hours and most of that was family time, but I think if I were to save one book from a fire this one might be it. It seems to cover nearly everything, or at least touch on everything. OK I am logging off now to page through my book. Have a great weekend. Yours in service, Sarra the Lymner Caer Adamant (DE), East Kingdom MKA Sarah Dressler Sarra's Florilegium www.sarrasflorilegium.knownworldweb.com They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Dost thou love life? Then do not squander time, for that is the stuff life is made of. There never was a good war or a bad peace. Benjamin Franklin 1706 - 1790 - --part1_fd.1dc03243.2ab40673_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings to the list.

After reading all of the posts a few weeks ago about the Codices Illustres book I emailed my Mom & sister to tell them that if they had not bought anything for my birthday that this book would be VERY well appreciated.  Well, today is the big day and despite the fact that my Mom & sister are in California for a wedding my brother brought me the book.

It weighs a ton and so far I have only flipped through the first 297 pages (out of 504) I can say that there are a lot of images I am familiar with and A LOT that I have never seen.  I think this book will be thoroughly worn in quickly.  

I cant say this for sure yet, as I have only had it in my possession for a couple of hours and most of that was family time, but I think if I were to save one book from a fire this one might be it.  It seems to cover nearly everything, or at least touch on everything.

OK I am logging off now to page through my book.  

Have a great weekend.

Yours in service,

Sarra the Lymner

Caer Adamant (DE), East Kingdom
MKA Sarah Dressler
Sarra's Florilegium
www.sarrasflorilegium.knownworldweb.com

       They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
       Dost thou love life? Then do not squander time, for that is the stuff life is made of.
       There never was a good war or a bad peace.                        Benjamin Franklin 1706 - 1790 - --part1_fd.1dc03243.2ab40673_boundary-- =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 12:09:19 EDT From: ArtsofPalm@aol.com Subject: Re: [scribes]: Going Buggy??? In a message dated 9/13/2002 1:06:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time, gray@cs.umass.edu writes: << Since there are insects on the pages, it gained the nickname "squashed bug", because that's what would happen if you closed the book on a real bug... >> - ----- aha! --- I was wondering why anyone would actually paint a squashed bug! On the other hand, I've seen some REALLY strange looking creatures as I've perused the books on illuminated manuscripts :^ ) ... Thanks for asking this question... I kept meaning to and forgetting... =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 19:32:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Mahee Subject: Re: [scribes]: judging A&S - rubric for illumination I like most of the rubric, but would like to see if you thought about Middle Eastern work when you wrote it? If I did everything exactly the way it was done on the original I would not get full points because I did not use vellum, and original was not done on vellum. your servant, mahee __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News - Today's headlines http://news.yahoo.com =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 23:47:00 EDT From: ArtsofPalm@aol.com Subject: Re: [scribes]: speaking of earwax In a message dated 9/15/2002 12:00:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time, wyverns@earthlink.net writes: << Of the two, I think much of the concern scribe-wise is the aeration, and that can be minimized with the addition of a tiny bit of earwax in many recipis. >> Speaking of earwax... I recently came across a book that said one way to get rid of bubbles in gesso was to add a tiny drop of 'oil of clove'.... just thought I'd pass that on to the ear wax averse scribal population. =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ End of scribes digest V8 #56 ****************************