From: owner-scribes@castle.org (scribes digest) To: scribes-digest@castle.org Subject: scribes digest V8 #52 Reply-To: Sender: owner-scribes@castle.org Errors-To: owner-scribes@castle.org Precedence: bulk scribes digest Tuesday, September 10 2002 Volume 08 : Number 052 ======================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with unsubscribe scribes-digets in the body of the message. Leave the subject line blank. Do not include any additional text. Re: [scribes]: Hi I'm new [scribes]: gesso mix? [scribes]: re: Iconofile [scribes]: Re: introduction Re: [scribes]: Hi I'm new [scribes]: Re: Iconofile abuse [scribes]: Fw: ICONOFILE eJOURNAL September 4, 2002 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2002 22:39:28 -0400 From: Sally Burnell Subject: Re: [scribes]: Hi I'm new At 12:48 AM 09/08/2002 EDT, Cpccohen@aol.com wrote: >Hi! I'm new. I'm just about to enter into the University of Chicago, and I've >been doing calligraphy since seventh grade. My bible is Marc Drogin's >Medieval Calligraphy: Its History and Technique, but I couldn't illuminate or >illustrate if my life depended on it. You know, I used to think the same way. I was positive that I couldn't do illumination back when I first started out, too. I was just going to strictly be a calligrapher and be done with it. Boy, was I ever wrong! Now I do both, and I like to think I do fairly well. I've been at it for almost 25 years, admittedly, so I've got plenty of practise in, but there's always room for growth with what I do. University of Chicago, huh? Local SCA group there is the College of Grey Gargoyles. Got some friends over that way who I could probably hook you up with. Beautiful campus - lots of very Mediaeval looking buildings. Check out in particular the John D. Rockefeller cathedral and Ida Noyes Hall across the street. I think - and I may be mistaken, but I can find out for sure, that Grey Gargoyles meets in Ida Noyes. Welcome to the list, and we hope you will find your time here among us to be educational and fun! We're a diverse list of many skills, talents and levels of abilities, from rank newcomers to experienced scribes. Don't ever think that anything is a "dumb question". We're here to share our collective knowledge with each other. Looking forward to meeting you in my travels throughout the Midrealm! ~Saradwen Midrealm =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 00:44:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Anna Troy Subject: [scribes]: gesso mix? I just found this on Iconofile http://www.iconofile.com/mediums.asp amoung other things they have a finshed gesso mix. Just add water to the powder and you have gesso. Has anyone tried this stuff? The site has other interesting things like a beginners kit for pigment grinding etc. Anna de Byxe, who is hapy because she just figured out how Arcantus leaves work. ===== "So many books, so little time." "Anna's Crafts Links Page" has MOVED to: http://www.angelfire.com/retro/crafts __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 10:49:59 -0500 (EST) From: john j cash Subject: [scribes]: re: Iconofile Dear folks, I sent this message out earlier, but I may have sent it to a single person, and i meant it to go to the whole list. I am resending. I received a message this morning from Iconofile, with several politely worded adds for its stuff, and a note at the end saying I received it because I had expressed interest or information. I hadn't. I wonder if Iconofile has managed to get some of us onto its mailing list through information inadvertently provided by a list member? Anyone else find themselves unaccountably on Iconofile's list? - -- johannes v.n. "Those who don't read ... have no advantage over those who can't" -- Mark Twain =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 04:53:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Melanie Subject: [scribes]: Re: introduction I would suggest starting with the St.Gabriel website... They're the authorities on names(: http://www.s-gabriel.org/ ~Dionysia ===== "The earth which sustains humanity must not be injured. It must not be destroyed!" - - Hildegarde of Bingen, 1098-1178, Germany __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 09:39:04 -0500 From: "Amy L. Hornburg Heilveil" Subject: Re: [scribes]: Hi I'm new At 12:48 AM 9/8/2002 -0400, Cpccohen@aol.com wrote: >Hi! I'm new. I'm just about to enter into the University of Chicago, and >I've been doing calligraphy since seventh grade. My bible is Marc Drogin's >Medieval Calligraphy: Its History and Technique, but I couldn't illuminate >or illustrate if my life depended on it. I have no society name or branch >(but in elementary school I played Dungeons and Dragons under the name >Caspian Jordan) and am known by one and all as Clara Cohen, soon to be of >Hyde Park, Chicago. > Is this list still active? The most recent date I've come across in > connection to it is December, 2001. As others have said, yes, the list is still quite active. You are located in the Middle Kingdom, webpage found here: http://www.midrealm.org/ in the region Midlands, webpage found here: http://12.100.136.197/midlands/ in the shire of Grey Gargoyles whose seneschal is: Etienne le Couteau des Roches (Steven Des Roches) 1817 N Honore St #3 Chicago, IL 60622 773-770-9012 pdesroches@att.net The larger Chicago area group is Tree-Girt-Sea, which is a Province, can be reached through their website here: http://12.100.136.197/tgs/ The two groups play well together and do some wonderful stuff. It shouldn't be difficult for you to get together with either of them during your stay in Hyde Park. Smiles, Despina de la graduated from University of Chicago graduate school =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 12:22:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Anna Troy Subject: [scribes]: Re: Iconofile abuse I was wondering why I got their newsletter. I just thought it was regular spam. Anna de Byxe - --- john j cash wrote: > DEar folks, > > I just received a message from Iconofile, with a > number of politely worded > advertisements for their materials and a note at the > end: > > "You are receiving this e-mail because you have > expressed an interest in > receiving the journal from Iconofile -- either by > specifically signing up > for the journal or by registering for the site and > choosing to receive > news from Iconofile." > > Of course, I have expressed no such interest. I have > reported it to the > Abuse page of their site. > > This makes me curious, perhaps some members of this > list have subscribed > and Iconofile is making use of information they > provided to gain access to > other members of our list? > > -- Johannes v.n. > > "Those who don't read ... have no advantage over > those who can't" > -- Mark Twain > > ===== "So many books, so little time." "Anna's Crafts Links Page" has MOVED to: http://www.angelfire.com/retro/crafts __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 05:30:18 -0700 From: "Eva Mehlhose" Subject: [scribes]: Fw: ICONOFILE eJOURNAL September 4, 2002 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C257C1.FCA26140 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Iconofile eJournal: September 4, 2002:For all the scribes and = illuminators and others doing research. Enjoy. Alex the scribe Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 10:21 PM Subject: ICONOFILE eJOURNAL September 4, 2002 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 Scriber used to make incisions in painting panels Read more Wallpaintings of Yaroslavl (Russia) Churches Read more Our Lady of the Sign Read more Collection of articles dealing with various aspects of = technical art history Read more New! Complete ingredients to make genuine gesso Read more Now on Sale! Only $32.95 Read more Pure natural colors for artists in all mediums Read more =20 =20 Subscribe Now to this free journal for news, information, = articles about icons and visual art. Click here to subscribe =20 =20 =20 =20 ICONOFILE eJOURNAL September 4, 2002=20 =20 =20 Painting Techniques Preparation of Glue Size Sixth in our technical series on painting icons, this = article discusses preparing the glue solution used to ready wood panels = for tempera painting since the earliest Christian period until today.=20 Read more about this =20 Painting Techniques Preparation of Wood Panels for Painting Fifth in our technical series on painting icons, this article = discusses the history and materials used in the preparation of wood = panels for tempera painting -- size, pavoloka and gesso -- since the = earliest Christian period until today. Read more about this Icons Virgin Orans the Great Panagia A concise review traces the history and iconography of the Russian = genre of the Byzantine icon of the Mother of God. Read more about this Painting Techniques The Kovcheg or Ark of Icon Panels Fourth in our technical series on painting icons, this article = discusses the kovcheg or ark since the 10th century and their use in = icons panels from the past to the present. Read more about this Painting Techniques The Use of Keys in Icon Panels Third in our technical series on painting icons, this article = discusses the different types of keys found in Russian icons since the = 12th century and their use in icons panels from the past to today. Read more about this Painting Techniques Making Joined Icon Panels Second in our technical series on painting icons, this article = discusses the technique of making joined icons panels from several = boards in detail from wood structure to joinery. Read more about this Iconography An Introduction to the Spiritual and Physical Features of Russian = Icons This article reviews the spiritual and material aspects of Russian = icons, presents an opinion based upon an ethnographic object = conservation orientation, and calls for a future dialogue. Read more about this About Iconofile eJournal Publication Intent The Iconofile eJournal is a learning resource from Iconofile for = all individuals interested in icons and sacred art. Iconofile is = delivered free through email to individuals who subscribe to the online = journal. Whether you are interested in sacred art, or a painter, = student, art historian, collector of religious art, or simply curious = about the spiritual aspect of art, you will find articles of interest in = Iconofile. 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Preparation of Glue Size
Sixth in = our=20 technical series on painting icons, this article discusses = preparing=20 the glue solution used to ready wood panels for tempera = painting=20 since the earliest Christian period until today.

  Read more=20 about this

Painting Techniques

Preparation of Wood Panels for = Painting
Fifth in=20 our technical series on painting icons, this article discusses the = history=20 and materials used in the preparation of wood panels for tempera = painting=20 -- size, pavoloka and gesso -- since the earliest Christian period = until=20 today.

  Read = more about=20 this

Icons

Virgin Orans the Great Panagia
A = concise review=20 traces the history and iconography of the Russian genre of the = Byzantine=20 icon of the Mother of God.

  Read = more about=20 this

Painting Techniques

The Kovcheg or Ark of Icon = Panels
Fourth in our=20 technical series on painting icons, this article discusses the = kovcheg or=20 ark since the 10th century and their use in icons panels from the = past to=20 the present.

  Read = more about=20 this

Painting Techniques

The Use of Keys in Icon Panels
Third in = our=20 technical series on painting icons, this article discusses the = different=20 types of keys found in Russian icons since the 12th century and = their use=20 in icons panels from the past to today.

  Read = more about=20 this

Painting Techniques

Making Joined Icon Panels
Second in our = technical=20 series on painting icons, this article discusses the technique of = making=20 joined icons panels from several boards in detail from wood = structure to=20 joinery.

  Read = more about=20 this

Iconography

An Introduction to the Spiritual and Physical = Features=20 of Russian Icons
This article reviews the spiritual and = material=20 aspects of Russian icons, presents an opinion based upon an = ethnographic=20 object conservation orientation, and calls for a future = dialogue.

  Read = more about=20 this

About Iconofile eJournal

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The Iconofile = eJournal=20 is a learning resource from Iconofile for all individuals = interested in=20 icons and sacred art. Iconofile is delivered free through = email to=20 individuals who subscribe to the online journal. Whether you are=20 interested in sacred art, or a painter, student, art historian, = collector=20 of religious art, or simply curious about the spiritual aspect of = art, you=20 will find articles of interest in Iconofile.

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