From: owner-scribes@castle.org (scribes digest) To: scribes-digest@castle.org Subject: scribes digest V8 #45 Reply-To: Sender: owner-scribes@castle.org Errors-To: owner-scribes@castle.org Precedence: bulk scribes digest Saturday, August 24 2002 Volume 08 : Number 045 ======================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with unsubscribe scribes-digets in the body of the message. Leave the subject line blank. Do not include any additional text. [scribes]: Scribal Cat (What to do when he bumps the table) Re: [scribes]: Scribal Cat (What to do when he bumps the table) [scribes]: please... Re: [scribes]: Scribal Cat (What to do when he bumps the table) [scribes]: Partnership Request EVIL!!! Re: [scribes]: Partnership Request [scribes]: Scribal shopping at Pennsic [scribes]: shopping at pennsic [scribes]: Partnership Request Re: [scribes]: Scribal shopping at Pennsic Re: [scribes]: Partnership Request - ATTENTION MODERATOR Re: [scribes]: please... Re: [scribes]: Scribal shopping at Pennsic [scribes]: that evil message Re: [scribes]: that evil message Re: [scribes]: Scribal shopping at Pennsic avaiable manuscripts was Re: [scribes]: Scribal shopping at Pennsic [scribes]: Linseed Re: avaiable manuscripts was Re: [scribes]: Scribal shopping at Pennsic [scribes]: Pennsic shopping list Re: [scribes]: Linseed ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 17:46:08 -0400 From: KMcWhyte@aol.com Subject: [scribes]: Scribal Cat (What to do when he bumps the table) Hi all. Meet Chimu, my 13 yr old. Currently residing in kitty-jail... ;) http://nazrynn.8m.com/Kitty-Jail.jpg - --Kayleigh =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 15:06:23 -0700 From: "Eva Mehlhose" Subject: Re: [scribes]: Scribal Cat (What to do when he bumps the table) Kayleigh I have one exactly the same, he is a norwegian forest cat by the name of Spazmo, 10 years old now... Alex the scribe > Hi all. > > Meet Chimu, my 13 yr old. Currently residing in kitty-jail... > ;) > > http://nazrynn.8m.com/Kitty-Jail.jpg > > --Kayleigh > =================================================================== > To unsubscribe from this list, send email to > with a blank Subject: line and > unsubscribe scribes > in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in > the body. > =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 15:20:52 -0700 From: Lee Damon Subject: [scribes]: please... ...no more about pets. I know everyone loves theirs dearly, but this is the scribes list, not the pet-owners-list. Please, lets concentrate on how to *do* scribal things. thanks, postmaster@castle.org =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 18:58:06 -0400 From: "Peter B. Steiner" Subject: Re: [scribes]: Scribal Cat (What to do when he bumps the table) "Hey....has anyone got a pair of.....Cat handcuffs?" -Steve Martin- ;-) KMcWhyte@aol.com wrote: > > Hi all. > > Meet Chimu, my 13 yr old. Currently residing in kitty-jail... > ;) > > http://nazrynn.8m.com/Kitty-Jail.jpg > > --Kayleigh > =================================================================== > To unsubscribe from this list, send email to > with a blank Subject: line and > unsubscribe scribes > in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in > the body. =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 00:41:01 From: "Dr. Umaru Diko. " Subject: [scribes]: Partnership Request From Dr.Umaru Diko Email Fax: 1-801-457-8275 Sent:23/08/2002 Subject: Reply Urgent Dear Sir, REQUEST FOR URGENT BUSINESS RELATIONSHIP Firstly, I must solicit your strictest confidentiality in this transaction. This is by virtue of its nature as being utterly CONFIDENTIAL and “TOP SECRET.” Though I know that a transaction of this magnitude will make anyone apprehensive and worried, but I am assuring you that all will be well at the end of the day. We have decided to contact you first by your email due to the urgency of this transaction, as we have been reliably informed that it will take at least two to three weeks for a normal post to reach you. So we decided it is best using the email. Let me start by first introducing myself properly to you. I am Dr. Umaru Diko, a director general in the Ministry of Mines and Power and I head a Three-man tender board appointed by the Government of the Federal Republic of Nigeria to award contracts to individuals and companies and to approve such contract payments in the Ministry of Mines and Power. The duties of the committee also include evaluation, vetting and monitoring of work done by both foreign and local contractors in the ministry. I came to know of you in my search for a reliable and reputable person to handle a very confidential business transaction, which involves the transfer of a huge sum of money to a foreign account requiring maximum confidence. In order to commence this business, we solicit for your assistance to enable us transfer into your account the said funds. The source of this funds is as follows: Between 1996 and 1997, this committee awarded contracts to various contractors for engineering, procurement, supply of electrical equipments such as Transformers, and some rural electrification projects. However, these contracts were over-invoiced by the committee, thereby, leaving the sum of US$11.5million dollars (Eleven Million Five Hundred thousand United States Dollars) in excess. This was done with the intention that the committee will share the excess when the payments are approved. The Federal Government have since approved the total contract sum which has been paid out to the companies and contractors concerned which executed the contracts, leaving the balance of $11.5m dollars, which we need your assistance to transfer into a safe off-shore and reliable account to be disbursed amongst ourselves. We need your assistance as the funds are presently secured in an escrow account of the Federal Government specifically set aside for the settlement of outstanding payments to foreign contractors. We are handicapped in this circumstance as the civil service code of conduct, does not allow us to operate off-shore accounts, hence your importance in the whole transaction is highly needed . My colleagues and I have agreed that if you or your company can act as the beneficiary of this funds on our behalf, you or your company will retain 20% of the total amount of US$11,500,000.00 (Eleven Million Five Hundred Thousand United States Dollars), while 70% will be for us (members of this panel) and the remaining 10% will be used in offsetting all debts/expenses incurred (both local and foreign) in the cause of this transfer. Needless to say, the trust reposed on you at this juncture is enormous. In return we demand your complete honesty and trust. It does not matter whether or not your company does contract projects of this nature described here, the assumption is that your company won the major contract and sub-contracted it out to other companies. More often than not, big trading companies or firms of unrelated fields win major contracts and subcontract to more specialized firms for execution of such contracts. We are civil servants and we will not want to miss this once in a life time opportunity. You must however, NOTE that this transaction will be strictly based on the following terms and conditions as we have stated below, as we have heard confirmed cases of business associates running away with funds kept in their custody when it finally arrive their accounts. We have decided that this transaction will be based completely on the following: (a). Our conviction of your transparent honesty and diligence. (b). That you would treat this transaction with utmost secrecy and confidentiality. (c). That upon receipt of the funds, you will promptly release our share (70%) on demand after you have removed your 20% and all expenses have been settled. (d). You must be ready to produce us with enough information about yourself to put our minds at rest. Please, note that this transaction is 100% legal and risk free and we hope to conclude the business in Ten Bank working days from the date of receipt of the necessary information and requirement from you. Endeavour to acknowledge the receipt of this letter then I will bring you into the complete picture of the transaction when I have heard from you. Your urgent response will be highly appreciated as we are already behind schedule for this financial quarter. Thank you and God bless. Yours faithfully, Dr. Umaru Diko. =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 17:02:10 -0700 From: Lee Damon Subject: EVIL!!! Re: [scribes]: Partnership Request DO NOT RESPOND TO THIS! It is a scam. It is evil. Do not reply, they will just spam you directly as well as continuing to spam the list. I am working on converting to a new mailer system that should block this spam, but it'll be a few more weeks before it is functional. postmaster@castle.org nomad ----------- - Lee "nomad" Damon - \ play: nomad@castle.org or castle!nomad \ work: nomad@ee.washington.edu \ /\ Seneschal, Castle PAUS. / \ "Celebrate Diversity" / \ =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 20:45:07 -0400 From: Sally Burnell Subject: [scribes]: Scribal shopping at Pennsic So, did anyone come home from Pennsic with any interesting new scribal tools or books? I bought two facsimile MSS. - "Les Belles Heures de Jean, Duc de Berry" and "The Hunting Book of Gaston Phoebus". Now I have three Jean, Duc de Berry MSS., Les Belles Heures, Les Grandes Heures and Les Trés Riches Heures. Mistress Yvianne told me that they may publish Les Petites Heures one of these days. That's the one I'd really like to get my hands on and look at! I have had, for a good many years, a book called "Mediaeval Hunting Scenes", which are some of the miniatures from Gaston Phoebus, but now I have the complete facsimile MS., which is simply gorgeous. I mulled over buying it for a week before caving in and buying it. I am kicking myself all over the place for not jumping soon enough on a Maciejowski Bible facsimile that I could've gotten for $50, that, as I was perusing the Belles Heures, was snapped up by an armourer who was going to use it for an armour reference. I know I will never again see it at that price.............sigh............but oh, well, I can dream............. So what did the rest of you get there? (that is, those of you who went?) ~Saradwen Midrealm =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 18:13:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Sunshine Subject: [scribes]: shopping at pennsic - --0-398462109-1030151638=:98651 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I got two lovely sheets of kid skin parchment, I looked at the spam vellum and just couldn't make up my mind. I got a book of 22K gold leaf, a book of silver leaf...a whole basket of period pigments in those nice little vials... a few sable brushes, some gesso tablets, a lovely reed brush holder..a glass muller and plate.. and a copy of "The Illuminated Page" because someone 'borrowed' my last one and I've not seen it since. I had fun restocking my kit, my husband just groaned and said he'd never get me out of my work room now! Constance Aethelmarc http://www.geocities.com/samhainlady/middleeast/melinks.html ~~ Damnant quod non intellegunt ~~ - --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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I got two lovely sheets of kid skin parchment, I looked at the spam vellum and just couldn't make up my mind.  I got a book of 22K gold leaf, a book of silver leaf...a whole basket of period pigments in those nice little vials... a few sable brushes, some gesso tablets, a lovely reed brush holder..a glass muller and plate.. and a copy of "The Illuminated Page" because someone 'borrowed' my last one and I've not seen it since. I had fun restocking my kit, my husband just groaned and said he'd never get me out of my work room now!

Constance
Aethelmarc
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Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes - --0-398462109-1030151638=:98651-- =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 02:28:13 From: "Dr. Umaru Diko. " Subject: [scribes]: Partnership Request From Dr.Umaru Diko Email Fax: 1-801-457-8275 Sent:23/08/2002 Subject: Reply Urgent Dear Sir, REQUEST FOR URGENT BUSINESS RELATIONSHIP Firstly, I must solicit your strictest confidentiality in this transaction. This is by virtue of its nature as being utterly CONFIDENTIAL and “TOP SECRET.” Though I know that a transaction of this magnitude will make anyone apprehensive and worried, but I am assuring you that all will be well at the end of the day. We have decided to contact you first by your email due to the urgency of this transaction, as we have been reliably informed that it will take at least two to three weeks for a normal post to reach you. So we decided it is best using the email. Let me start by first introducing myself properly to you. I am Dr. Umaru Diko, a director general in the Ministry of Mines and Power and I head a Three-man tender board appointed by the Government of the Federal Republic of Nigeria to award contracts to individuals and companies and to approve such contract payments in the Ministry of Mines and Power. The duties of the committee also include evaluation, vetting and monitoring of work done by both foreign and local contractors in the ministry. I came to know of you in my search for a reliable and reputable person to handle a very confidential business transaction, which involves the transfer of a huge sum of money to a foreign account requiring maximum confidence. In order to commence this business, we solicit for your assistance to enable us transfer into your account the said funds. The source of this funds is as follows: Between 1996 and 1997, this committee awarded contracts to various contractors for engineering, procurement, supply of electrical equipments such as Transformers, and some rural electrification projects. However, these contracts were over-invoiced by the committee, thereby, leaving the sum of US$11.5million dollars (Eleven Million Five Hundred thousand United States Dollars) in excess. This was done with the intention that the committee will share the excess when the payments are approved. The Federal Government have since approved the total contract sum which has been paid out to the companies and contractors concerned which executed the contracts, leaving the balance of $11.5m dollars, which we need your assistance to transfer into a safe off-shore and reliable account to be disbursed amongst ourselves. We need your assistance as the funds are presently secured in an escrow account of the Federal Government specifically set aside for the settlement of outstanding payments to foreign contractors. We are handicapped in this circumstance as the civil service code of conduct, does not allow us to operate off-shore accounts, hence your importance in the whole transaction is highly needed . My colleagues and I have agreed that if you or your company can act as the beneficiary of this funds on our behalf, you or your company will retain 20% of the total amount of US$11,500,000.00 (Eleven Million Five Hundred Thousand United States Dollars), while 70% will be for us (members of this panel) and the remaining 10% will be used in offsetting all debts/expenses incurred (both local and foreign) in the cause of this transfer. Needless to say, the trust reposed on you at this juncture is enormous. In return we demand your complete honesty and trust. It does not matter whether or not your company does contract projects of this nature described here, the assumption is that your company won the major contract and sub-contracted it out to other companies. More often than not, big trading companies or firms of unrelated fields win major contracts and subcontract to more specialized firms for execution of such contracts. We are civil servants and we will not want to miss this once in a life time opportunity. You must however, NOTE that this transaction will be strictly based on the following terms and conditions as we have stated below, as we have heard confirmed cases of business associates running away with funds kept in their custody when it finally arrive their accounts. We have decided that this transaction will be based completely on the following: (a). Our conviction of your transparent honesty and diligence. (b). That you would treat this transaction with utmost secrecy and confidentiality. (c). That upon receipt of the funds, you will promptly release our share (70%) on demand after you have removed your 20% and all expenses have been settled. (d). You must be ready to produce us with enough information about yourself to put our minds at rest. Please, note that this transaction is 100% legal and risk free and we hope to conclude the business in Ten Bank working days from the date of receipt of the necessary information and requirement from you. Endeavour to acknowledge the receipt of this letter then I will bring you into the complete picture of the transaction when I have heard from you. Your urgent response will be highly appreciated as we are already behind schedule for this financial quarter. Thank you and God bless. Yours faithfully, Dr. Umaru Diko. =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 22:20:35 -0400 From: "Laura Peskett" <2rozakii@attbi.com> Subject: Re: [scribes]: Scribal shopping at Pennsic So, did anyone come home from Pennsic with any interesting new scribal tools or books? So what did the rest of you get there? (that is, those of you who went?) ~Saradwen Midrealm ***** This year I really limited my spending - a piece of vellum and some gold leaf. I was looking at the books, but it seems like everyone got the good ones before I got there. :-( But I was not too concerned - I'm going to Ireland for 10 days in October! I plan on doing some book shopping there. :-) And of course making at _least_ two visits to Trinity College and the manuscript room. *sigh* Tzitzakion BBM/East Kingdom =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 22:25:05 -0400 From: "D Humberson" Subject: Re: [scribes]: Partnership Request - ATTENTION MODERATOR In case somebody thinks this is a harmless prank, please check out http://home.rica.net/alphae/419coal/ This damnable scam predates the Internet, and is still going strong. Be careful in commenting on it as well - this message had the reply-to set to the author, not the scribe's list. Ragnar >From: "Dr. Umaru Diko. " >(trash discarded) _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 07:52:26 -0400 From: KMcWhyte@aol.com Subject: Re: [scribes]: please... OK, sorry.... just thought it might have some impact on that story about the scroll that was ruined by the cat prior to most of us leaving for Pennsic. I won't post any more on the subject of pets screwing up scribing, or any pictures of the culprits. - --Kayleigh In a message dated Fri, 23 Aug 2002 5:20:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, nomad@castle.org writes: > > > ...no more about pets. I know everyone loves theirs dearly, but this is > the scribes list, not the pet-owners-list. > > Please, lets concentrate on how to *do* scribal things. > > thanks, > postmaster@castle.org > > > =================================================================== > To unsubscribe from this list, send email to > with a blank Subject: line and > unsubscribe scribes > in the body of the message. Do not include any additional > text in > the body. =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 08:20:22 -0400 From: KMcWhyte@aol.com Subject: Re: [scribes]: Scribal shopping at Pennsic In a message dated Fri, 23 Aug 2002 9:20:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, 2rozakii@attbi.com writes: > > > So, did anyone come home from Pennsic with any interesting new scribal tools > or books? > > So what did the rest of you get there? (that is, those of you who went?) > > ~Saradwen > Midrealm > > ***** I went to Pennsic this year with every intention of sticking to a budget, but still wound up going over it nonetheless... My spending (mostly last-minute) involved the some of the things I had wanted most of all for my scribal tool kit... * Gilding class (fee) with Meistern Katarina (thanks again!). Came back with gesso, and a packet of small goodies to play with.... (no more permacoll and hairdryers *grin*) * A bone burnisher (shaped like a foot with tiny "toes"). * The once-a-Pennsic book, this time on Celtic knot construction and page design.... considering the rest of the info I have is from a handout from Mistress Aleksandra D'Accipatre's former classes and Knowne World Handbook... * My first set of period pigments from John the Artificer. Deliberately avoided picking anything with lead in it, but still got a set with some chromium, and some copper in some of the pigment. * Peacock quill from the scribes party (free). Thanks Despina! * Miniature (1") metal frame for necklace - constructing period-looking necklaces is something I do when nothing else is available to keep my hands busy. * Walnut ink, by accident.... Got 1/2 way to my rescheduled gothic callig class when I realized the pen and ink were still in my tent on Highland Rd in B2, halfway up Mt Eislynn. It's already gotten good use, and is actually not too bad. Bought from St. Gabriel's Guild, and borrowed a pen from them (returned after class with a thank-you token). * 1 period wood-gilding kit. Intended for the aforementioned 9th c. Viking "scroll". And that's pretty much it for the scribal portion of my purchases. Viva la Shopping War Point... ;) - --Lady Kayleigh McWhyte, "Mercenary Scribe" An Dubhaigheainn, East 'Beth Frank, Long Island, NY > > =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 08:42:56 -0500 (EST) From: john j cash Subject: [scribes]: that evil message Dear folks, Like the rest of us, I received two of those "evil" messages from Dr. Umaro Diko about his business partnership, via the scribes list. That was yesterday. This morning I received one addressed to my personal address. Could the list-master tell me if they could have gotten that address from the scribes list subscriber file? - -- johannes (who deletes them) "Those who don't read ... have no advantage over those who can't" -- Mark Twain =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 07:29:23 -0700 From: Lee Damon Subject: Re: [scribes]: that evil message > Could the list-master tell me if they could have gotten that > address from the scribes list subscriber file? Not without breaking into castle to get it. The subscriber list for scribes is not released to anyone, ever. nomad ----------- - Lee "nomad" Damon - \ play: nomad@castle.org or castle!nomad \ work: nomad@ee.washington.edu \ /\ Seneschal, Castle PAUS. / \ "Celebrate Diversity" / \ =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 12:43:25 EDT From: BRNDALSTON@aol.com Subject: Re: [scribes]: Scribal shopping at Pennsic - --part1_13.107bd86c.2a9911ad_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 8/23/2002 8:46:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time,=20 sburnell@raex.com writes: > I bought two facsimile MSS. - "Les Belles Heures de Jean, Duc de Berry" an= d > "The Hunting Book of Gaston Phoebus". Now I have three Jean, Duc de Berry > MSS., Les Belles Heures, Les Grandes Heures and Les Tr=E9s Riches Heures. > Mistress Yvianne told me that they may publish Les Petites Heures one of > these days. That's the one I'd really like to get my hands on and look at!= =20 >=20 Are the Jean, Duc de Berry hours from the 1300's or the 1400's? I am trying to compile a list of sources for illumination from different tim= e=20 periods for the Tempore Atlantia competitions that will be held at various=20 Kingdom events throughout the year. The time period rotates from event to=20 event, and I want to have a list I can send people to check out for ideas fo= r=20 the competition for each time period. Speaking of which, if anyone knows any good sources for samples from the 150= 0=20 - - 1600's for the current compeition, could you please post them?=20 Thanks, Brandy - --part1_13.107bd86c.2a9911ad_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 8/23/2= 002 8:46:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time, sburnell@raex.com writes:


I bought two facsimile MSS.= - "Les Belles Heures de Jean, Duc de Berry" and
"The Hunting Book of Gaston Phoebus". Now I have three Jean, Duc de Berr= y
MSS., Les Belles Heures, Les Grandes Heures and Les Tr=E9s Riches Heures= .
Mistress Yvianne told me that they may publish Les Petites Heures one of
these days. That's the one I'd really like to get my hands on and look a= t!=20

Are the Jean, Duc de Berry hours from the 1300's or the 1400= 's?

I am trying to compile a list of sources for illumination from different= time periods for the Tempore Atlantia competitions that will be held at var= ious Kingdom events throughout the year. The time period rotates from event=20= to event, and I want to have a list I can send people to check out for ideas= for the competition for each time period.

Speaking of which, if anyone knows any good sources for samples from the= 1500 - 1600's for the current compeition, could you please post them?=20

Thanks,
Brandy
- --part1_13.107bd86c.2a9911ad_boundary-- =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 15:33:19 -0500 From: Gwendoline Rosamond Subject: avaiable manuscripts was Re: [scribes]: Scribal shopping at Pennsic Greetings, I didn't go to Pennsic so I didn't get any shopping but it sounds like you got a great find! I have the Hunting book as well as two others published by Brepols (David Brown/Oxbow Books is now carrying some of their stuff including the manuscripts in miniature series). The other titles available are: Medicina Antiqua. Vienna, Oesterreichische Nationalbibliothek, Cod. Vind. 93. 385 p., +322 in colour, 150 x 200 mm, 1999, Hardback ISBN 1-872501-20-6, EUR 74.00 Bible Moralisée. Vienna, Oesterreichische Nationalbibliothek, Cod. Vind. 2554. 280 p., +136 in colour, 150 x 200 mm, 1995, Hardback ISBN 1-872501-92-3, EUR 74.00 and for those of you not so lucky, The Hunting Book of Gaston Phébus. Paris, Bibliotheque nationale, MS fr. 616. 356 p., +276 in colour, 150 x 200 mm, 1998, Hardback ISBN 1-872501-97-4, EUR 74.00 Does anyone else know of some good manuscript facsimiles available? I have most of the usual/standard ones and am looking for the more obscure... Cheers, Gwendoline At 08:45 PM 8/23/2002 -0400, Sally Burnell wrote: >So, did anyone come home from Pennsic with any interesting new scribal tools >or books? > >I bought two facsimile MSS. - "Les Belles Heures de Jean, Duc de Berry" and >"The Hunting Book of Gaston Phoebus". Now I have three Jean, Duc de Berry >MSS., Les Belles Heures, Les Grandes Heures and Les Trés Riches Heures. >Mistress Yvianne told me that they may publish Les Petites Heures one of >these days. That's the one I'd really like to get my hands on and look at! >So what did the rest of you get there? (that is, those of you who went?) > >~Saradwen > Midrealm =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 18:12:04 -0500 From: "D & L Potucek" Subject: [scribes]: Linseed Hello again, I acquired a nice wooden box that is just perfect for my scribal stuff. So far I have stripped the old stain and am now looking for a more period form of stain. Thus my question, does anyone know if Linseed oil would be considered period? I like using it as it brings out the natural grain of the wood with out a real big mess and is pretty durable as one can touch up as needed. Langry Bouclés d'Cheveux "Dying is easy, it's what you do while living that counts." =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 21:40:02 -0400 From: Sally Burnell Subject: Re: avaiable manuscripts was Re: [scribes]: Scribal shopping at Pennsic >Does anyone else know of some good manuscript facsimiles available? I have >most of the usual/standard ones and am looking for the more obscure... Here is a list of the facsimile MSS. I own: Prayer Book of Michelino da Besozzo Master of Mary of Burgundy Visconti Hours Trés Riches Heures de Jean, Duc de Berry Grandes Heures de Jean, Duc de Berry Belles Heures de Jean, Duc de Berry King René's Book of Love Hours of Catherine of Cleves Hunting Book of Gaston Phébus Rohan Master Göttingen Model Book These are mostly standard ones that I imagine that most of you have as well. I am wishing I could've grabbed the $50 copy of the Maciejowski Bible that got away from me at Pennsic, but.....oh, well........couldn't afford everything I wanted, unfortunately, and like Kayleigh, I went over budget, but heck, sometimes you've just gotta do it. I could not walk away from Gaston Phébus, even though I hemmed and hawed over it for the better part of a week before caving in and buying it. I saw two merchants with full facsimiles of the Book of Kells, which I sighed over and wished I could afford. I've wanted that for a very long time now. Maybe someday........... I can't think of any really obscure facsimiles. One of the ones I don't really like and see all the time is the Farnese Hours. I'm not really big on Italian Renaissance Humanist style. I tend to stop at about 1450, just prior to Gutenberg. My personal preference is for earlier MSS., especially early Gothic and International Gothic styles. You rarely, if ever, see really early stuff. Typically the stuff that gets published is the pretty jewel-like stuff with all that delicate vinework stuff of the high Middle Ages that we're all familiar with seeing. And the "squashed bug" (more properly known as "trompe l'oeil") of the 15th century. Frankly, I'd welcome seeing some early Merovingian or Carolingian or other early styles published. You don't tend to see a whole lot of that stuff, not even in museums. I wonder how many early MSS. are in the hands of private collectors and will never be seen by the likes of us. Well, anyway, I've nattered on enough. Suffice it to say, I'd be interested in knowing what obscure facsimiles are out there, too. ~Saradwen Midrealm ~Saradwen "The journey of a thousand miles must begin with a single step." - Confucius =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 22:21:46 -0400 From: "K. Z." Subject: [scribes]: Pennsic shopping list Hello everyone, I am a newbie scribe but I went a little nuts at Pennsic. I had a great time shopping though. 20 vials of assorted pigment paints and stuff (I didn't buy anything with a skull and crossbones even though I am a pirate at heart) :) Books: The Book of Kells (Selected Plates in Full Color) Edited by Blanche Cirker Manuscript Illumination (The British Library Guide) Christopher de Hamel Color Decoration & Illumination in Calligraphy, Margaret Morgan Treasures From Italy's Great Libraries (Vendome Press) The Illuminated Alphabet, Timothy Noad and Patricia Seligman The Compleat Anachronist #61 An Encheiridion-The Education of a Scribe The Compleat Anachronist #47 A Primer in Calligraphy and Illumination The Compleat Anachronist #50 Armorial Display A muller burnisher sealing wax and mark stone brush holder Then my other interests took hold of my visa. I can still here my consort saying "come way from the books!". Now to pick Mea the Bold's brain.....hehehe (evil grin) Collys AEthelmearc Only a Pirates life for me. Mutiny is only a difference in opinions. Terra Marique Potens (Powerful by land and sea). _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 21:29:23 -0500 From: "Pafra & Scott Catledge" Subject: Re: [scribes]: Linseed "Of linsed & of eyrin & of other thing men conne al day oyle out bring" S. E. Leg. (MS. Bodl. 779), in Ludwig Herrig's Archiv fu"r das Studium der neuren Sprachen und Literaturen LXXXII. 311/217 dates the passage to the 14th century. The "th" in "other" and "thing" is an 'edh' in the cited passage, leading me to concur in the antiquity of the passage. "The Secret of Oyl Painting consists of using colours that are Ground with Oyl of Nut or Linseed." William Aglionby's Painting Illustrated in Three Diallogues, Containing some Choice Observations upon the ART. Together with the Lives of the Most Eminent Painters, from Cimabue, to the time of Raphael and Michaelangelo. With an Explanation of the Difficult Terms. London: Printed by John Gain for the Author, 1685, Book I, p. 27. The book is basically a translation of Giorgio Vasari's Lives (Le vite de' piu eccelenti architetti, pittori et scultori etc.).--which first appeared in 1550 and in a second, much expanded edition in 1568. If linseed oil was used in painting prior to 1550, using it as a stain would not seem too OOP IMHO. Scott Catledge - ----- Original Message ----- From: "D & L Potucek" To: "scribes" Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2002 6:12 PM Subject: [scribes]: Linseed > Hello again, > > I acquired a nice wooden box that is just perfect for my scribal stuff. So > far I have stripped the old stain and am now looking for a more period form > of stain. Thus my question, does anyone know if Linseed oil would be > considered period? I like using it as it brings out the natural grain of > the wood with out a real big mess and is pretty durable as one can touch up > as needed. > > Langry Bouclés d'Cheveux > "Dying is easy, it's what you do while living that counts." > > ============================================================ ======= > To unsubscribe from this list, send email to > with a blank Subject: line and > unsubscribe scribes > in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in > the body. > =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ End of scribes digest V8 #45 ****************************