From: owner-scribes@castle.org (scribes digest) To: scribes-digest@castle.org Subject: scribes digest V8 #44 Reply-To: Sender: owner-scribes@castle.org Errors-To: owner-scribes@castle.org Precedence: bulk scribes digest Friday, August 23 2002 Volume 08 : Number 044 ======================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with unsubscribe scribes-digets in the body of the message. Leave the subject line blank. Do not include any additional text. Re: [scribes]: Newbie questions Re: [scribes]: Newbie questions [scribes]: Interesting Page Re: [scribes]: Newbie questions Re: [scribes]: Newbie questions& Marc Drogin [scribes]: RE: finding Drogin's books, was: re: Newbie questions [scribes]: OT Question Re: [scribes]: Newbie questions [scribes]: Evangelism Explosion Re: [scribes]: OT Question Re: [scribes]: Interesting Page Re: [scribes]: Newbie questions Re: [scribes]: Interesting Page [scribes]: Looking for a book... Re: [scribes]: Interesting Page Re: [scribes]: Interesting Page Re: [scribes]: Interesting Page Re: [scribes]: Looking for a book... Re: [scribes]: Interesting Page Re: [scribes]: Interesting Page Fw: [scribes]: RE: finding Drogin's books, was: re: Newbie questions Re: [scribes]: Interesting Page Re: [scribes]: Cyrillic, please Re: [scribes]: Newbie questions Re: [scribes]: Looking for a book... Re: [scribes]: Interesting Page [scribes]: St Johns Bible, was: Interesting Page ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 18:15:50 -0500 From: "Pafra & Scott Catledge" Subject: Re: [scribes]: Newbie questions I am a newbie who has only completed the three monthly classes to date in creating a medieval-style illuminated manuscript. Next class we will be doing capitals in preparation for burnishing them with gold the following month. Can any one recommend an especially good book on drawing capitals in the uncial or semiuncial style--preferably one that uses examples taken directly from actual medieval manuscripts? Also, can anyone recommend a good source for gold sheets? =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 19:13:02 -0500 From: "Helen Schultz" Subject: Re: [scribes]: Newbie questions One of the best books I know of is by David Harris, "The Art of Calligraphy..." - -- Mark Drogin's "Medieval Calligraphy" comes in a close second. You can get them from any modern book store or from: http://www.johnnealbooks.com or by calling Paper & Ink Arts at 1-800-736-7772 http://www.danielsmith.com/ (good general paints & supplies supplier) http://www.easyleaf.com/ (good gold leaf supplier) Hope this helps you a bit. Meisterin Katarina Helene von Schönborn (KHvS), OL Shire of Narrental (Peru, Indiana) Middle Kingdom http://meisterin.katarina.home.insightbb.com (still in progress) - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pafra & Scott Catledge" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [scribes]: Newbie questions > I am a newbie who has only completed the three monthly > classes to date in creating a medieval-style illuminated > manuscript. Next class we will be doing capitals in > preparation for burnishing them with gold the following > month. Can any one recommend an especially good book on > drawing capitals in the uncial or semiuncial > style--preferably one that uses examples taken directly from > actual medieval manuscripts? Also, can anyone recommend a > good source for gold sheets? =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 06:21:54 -0400 From: "Dianne and Greg Stucki" Subject: [scribes]: Interesting Page This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0820_01C249A4.35A22C40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Donald Jackson has been commissioned to create a hand-lettered, = hand-illuminated Bible. But when he says " No one has done this for 600 = years", I have to wonder---why does he think medieval style pigments are = available? What he think people do with them? http://www.saintjohnsbible.org Laurensa Take hold of your inner dragon and horde not. - ------=_NextPart_000_0820_01C249A4.35A22C40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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- ------=_NextPart_000_0820_01C249A4.35A22C40-- =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 06:26:03 -0500 From: "D & L Potucek" Subject: Re: [scribes]: Newbie questions I would jus like to add a note. Looking for Medieval Calligraphy: Its History and Technique by Marc Drogin has been a real challenge. I ended up ordering it Used from Barnes and Nobles. It seems that this book is no longer in print. I checked Amazon and Barnes and Nobles and could only find it in the used section, and a little more spendy than what I was quoted. I don't know if I was looking in the wrong places but it is what I have found. Langry Subject: Re: [scribes]: Newbie questions > One of the best books I know of is by David Harris, "The Art of Calligraphy..." > -- Mark Drogin's "Medieval Calligraphy" comes in a close second. > > You can get them from any modern book store or from: > > http://www.johnnealbooks.com > > or by calling Paper & Ink Arts at 1-800-736-7772 > > http://www.danielsmith.com/ (good general paints & supplies supplier) > > http://www.easyleaf.com/ (good gold leaf supplier) > > Hope this helps you a bit. > > Meisterin Katarina Helene von Schönborn (KHvS), OL > Shire of Narrental (Peru, Indiana) > Middle Kingdom > http://meisterin.katarina.home.insightbb.com (still in progress) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pafra & Scott Catledge" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 6:15 PM > Subject: Re: [scribes]: Newbie questions > > > > I am a newbie who has only completed the three monthly > > classes to date in creating a medieval-style illuminated > > manuscript. Next class we will be doing capitals in > > preparation for burnishing them with gold the following > > month. Can any one recommend an especially good book on > > drawing capitals in the uncial or semiuncial > > style--preferably one that uses examples taken directly from > > actual medieval manuscripts? Also, can anyone recommend a > > good source for gold sheets? > > > > =================================================================== > To unsubscribe from this list, send email to > with a blank Subject: line and > unsubscribe scribes > in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in > the body. > =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 14:27:35 +0200 From: merlyn@virulent.de Subject: Re: [scribes]: Newbie questions& Marc Drogin That's very strange I just did a search for Marc Drogin on Amazon .com and it came up on sale for 10.47$ US. You can also order it through dover publications. It's not out of print according to these two sites. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-form/102- 3082535-9618507 http://search.store.yahoo.com/cgi-bin/nsearch?follow-pro=1&vwcatalog= doverpublications&catalog=doverpublications&query=Marc%20Drogin Not sure how these links will work, but if you go to the front pages and do a search for Marcu Drogin the sites will come up. One of my students ordered it here in Germany from Amazon.com and it arrived last week. Bridget >I would jus like to add a note. Looking for Medieval Calligraphy: Its > History and Technique by Marc Drogin has been a real challenge. I > ended up ordering it Used from Barnes and Nobles. It seems that this > book is no longer in print. I checked Amazon and Barnes and Nobles > and could only find it in the used section, and a little more spendy > than what I was quoted. I don't know if I was looking in the wrong > places but it is what I have found. > > Langry - --- Bridget Greywolf, AoA2, OT Ar n-Eilean-ne ex patriot now residing in Drachenwald House Blackwood, daughter to Lord Cealian Of Moray MKA: Fiona Messer, Germany =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 08:44:51 -0400 From: "Holly" Subject: [scribes]: RE: finding Drogin's books, was: re: Newbie questions Hm. Strange. Dover is pretty good about keeping books in print. There are two or more Drogin books on medieval calligraphy; the other one I am thinking of is "Yours Truly, King Arthur" ISBN 0-8008-8765-4 (paperback, marked $9.95, pub. 1982) which only has four hands in it.. but it might be a place to start. The ISBN on my "Medieval Calligraphy: Its History and Technique" is 0-486-26142-5 and it is marked $12.95 on the back, Dover edition copyright 1989, originally published 1980 by someone else.. Right now Amazon is showing someone selling it used for $9.95. Their price (Amazon) is $10.47 though they do say they have only 3 copies left.. :-)---Holly---<--<-@ - -----Original Message----- From: owner-scribes@castle.org [mailto:owner-scribes@castle.org]On Behalf Of D & L Potucek I would jus like to add a note. Looking for Medieval Calligraphy: Its History and Technique by Marc Drogin has been a real challenge. I ended up ordering it Used from Barnes and Nobles. It seems that this book is no longer in print. I checked Amazon and Barnes and Nobles and could only find it in the used section, and a little more spendy than what I was quoted. I don't know if I was looking in the wrong places but it is what I have found. Langry Subject: Re: [scribes]: Newbie questions > One of the best books I know of is by David Harris, "The Art of Calligraphy..." > -- Mark Drogin's "Medieval Calligraphy" comes in a close second. > > You can get them from any modern book store or from: > > http://www.johnnealbooks.com > > or by calling Paper & Ink Arts at 1-800-736-7772 > > http://www.danielsmith.com/ (good general paints & supplies supplier) > > http://www.easyleaf.com/ (good gold leaf supplier) > > Hope this helps you a bit. > > Meisterin Katarina Helene von Schönborn (KHvS), OL > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pafra & Scott Catledge" > > Can any one recommend an especially good book on > > drawing capitals in the uncial or semiuncial > > style--preferably one that uses examples taken directly from > > actual medieval manuscripts? > =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 09:57:32 -0400 From: KMcWhyte@aol.com Subject: [scribes]: OT Question If anyone has experience in Illustrator, would they please mind contacting me off the list at royalmiragepfms@aol.com? I've got a situation here with the program not putting the letters on the screen as I type. Wondering if this is a memory problem, or if it can be fixed with a push of a button. Thank you. - --Kayleigh =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 10:24:14 -0400 From: ESTAVASH@cs.com Subject: Re: [scribes]: Newbie questions I just looked up Marc Drogin on Amazon, and the Medieval Calligraphy book came up as "usually ships in 24 hours". Maybe it was out of print for a while and was reprinted? Most of his other titles are special order or out of print. Ellen "D & L Potucek" wrote: >I would jus like to add a note.  Looking for Medieval Calligraphy: Its >History and Technique by Marc Drogin has been a real challenge.  I ended up >ordering it Used from Barnes and Nobles.  It seems that this book is no >longer in print.  I checked Amazon and Barnes and Nobles and could only find >it in the used section, and a little more spendy than what I was quoted.  I >don't know if I was looking in the wrong places but it is what I have found. > >Langry =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 07:52:41 From: "Dr. Mankin's Moment of Truth Crusade for Christ" Subject: [scribes]: Evangelism Explosion Join the Crusade For Christ! Dr. Clark Mankin's Moment of Truth Ministries wants YOU! http://www.praise-jesus.tv Help Our Evangelism Outreach =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 11:02:30 -0400 From: KMcWhyte@aol.com Subject: Re: [scribes]: OT Question OK, problem is not solveable, oh well. Thanks Christoph! (Makes me wish these WERE the Middle Ages, then I could manually solve the problem with quill and ink....!) - --Kayleigh =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 08:42:59 -0700 From: Subject: Re: [scribes]: Interesting Page On Thu, 22 Aug 2002 06:21:54 -0400 Dianne and Greg Stucki wrote: >Donald Jackson has been commissioned to create a >hand-lettered, hand-illuminated Bible.  But when >he says " No one has done >this for 600 years", I have to wonder---why does >he think medieval style >pigments are available? What he think people do >with them? I suspect he means no one has made an entire, hand-lettered Bible in 600 years, not that no one has done smaller works. Branwen ferch Emrys =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 08:48:58 -0700 From: Subject: Re: [scribes]: Newbie questions On Thu, 22 Aug 2002 06:26:03 -0500 D & L Potucek wrote: >I would jus like to add a note. Looking for >Medieval Calligraphy: Its >History and Technique by Marc Drogin has been a >real challenge. I ended up >ordering it Used from Barnes and Nobles. It >seems that this book is no >longer in print. I checked Amazon and Barnes >and Nobles and could only find >it in the used section, and a little more spendy >than what I was quoted. I >don't know if I was looking in the wrong places >but it is what I have found. I just check Amazon.com (by going to the books section and doing an author search on Drogin, Marc), and it shows three new copies available for about ten dollars. Branwen ferch Emrys Subject: Re: [scribes]: Newbie questions > One of the best books I know of is by David Harris, "The Art of Calligraphy..." > -- Mark Drogin's "Medieval Calligraphy" comes in a close second. > > You can get them from any modern book store or from: > > http://www.johnnealbooks.com > > or by calling Paper & Ink Arts at 1-800-736-7772 > > http://www.danielsmith.com/ (good general paints & supplies supplier) > > http://www.easyleaf.com/ (good gold leaf supplier) > > Hope this helps you a bit. > > Meisterin Katarina Helene von Schönborn (KHvS), OL > Shire of Narrental (Peru, Indiana) > Middle Kingdom > http://meisterin.katarina.home.insightbb.com (still in progress) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pafra & Scott Catledge" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 6:15 PM > Subject: Re: [scribes]: Newbie questions > > > > I am a newbie who has only completed the three monthly > > classes to date in creating a medieval-style illuminated > > manuscript. Next class we will be doing capitals in > > preparation for burnishing them with gold the following > > month. Can any one recommend an especially good book on > > drawing capitals in the uncial or semiuncial > > style--preferably one that uses examples taken directly from > > actual medieval manuscripts? Also, can anyone recommend a > > good source for gold sheets? > > > > =================================================================== > To unsubscribe from this list, send email to > with a blank Subject: line and > unsubscribe scribes > in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in > the body. > =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 09:41:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Hillary Greenslade Subject: Re: [scribes]: Interesting Page - --- branwen@ix.netcom.com wrote: > On Thu, 22 Aug 2002 06:21:54 -0400 Dianne and Greg Stucki > wrote: > >Donald Jackson has been commissioned to create a hand-lettered, hand- > illuminated Bible.  But when he says " No one has done this for 600 > years", I have to wonder---why does he think medieval > style pigments are available? What he think people do with them? > > Branwen ferch Emrys said: > I suspect he means no one has made an entire, > hand-lettered Bible in 600 years, not that no > one has done smaller works. > I agree with Branwen, the 'whole book' has not been done for a very long time. I saw a program on some news show on this (maybe it was at the Hill Monastic Library, at the Knowne World Heraldic and Scribal Sympsosium.. as they are the ones who commissioned the work), and it's actually quite facinating. There have also been a few articles in mags. on the project. Jackson is not doing all the book himself, he has a team. They developed a new script for the work and all of them learned it. Each team member is doing a full section or book, so that there is a bit of continuity in the look, and they are using vellum for all the pages, so it will last as long as the historic manuscripts. Jackson is doing the majority of the large illuminated pages. They are already selling facimilie editions, so you may want to try and get your rare book libaries to buy a copy, it will be some time before they are priced for the street market, I expect. Cheers, Hillary __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 13:32:16 EDT From: Angeldreams83@aol.com Subject: [scribes]: Looking for a book... - --part1_17e.d28a4ee.2a967a20_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Please help me someone! I was wondering if there are any good illumination pattern books out there that would give me some examples of 12th century French illuminations. I'm having the worst time trying to locate anything and it's getting to be frustrating! Help! Nikki - --part1_17e.d28a4ee.2a967a20_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Please help me someone! I was wondering if there are any good illumination pattern books out there that would give me some examples of 12th century French illuminations. I'm having the worst time trying to locate anything and it's getting to be frustrating! Help!

Nikki
- --part1_17e.d28a4ee.2a967a20_boundary-- =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 14:38:26 -0400 (EDT) From: "Lyle H. Gray" Subject: Re: [scribes]: Interesting Page > I suspect he means no one has made an entire, hand-lettered > Bible in 600 years, not that no one has done smaller works. Well, full Bible, probably not, but the Old Testament is still regularly copied by hand... =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 11:41:20 -0700 From: Subject: Re: [scribes]: Interesting Page On Thu, 22 Aug 2002 14:38:26 -0400 (EDT) "Lyle H. Gray" wrote: >> I suspect he means no one has made an entire, hand-lettered >> Bible in 600 years, not that no one has done smaller works. >Well, full Bible, probably not, but the Old Testament is still >regularly copied by hand... Cool. Do they use gold leaf, decorated initials, and painted miniatures, too? Branwen ferch Emrys =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 14:45:28 -0400 (EDT) From: "Lyle H. Gray" Subject: Re: [scribes]: Interesting Page > >> I suspect he means no one has made an entire, hand-lettered > >> Bible in 600 years, not that no one has done smaller works. > > >Well, full Bible, probably not, but the Old Testament is still > >regularly copied by hand... > > Cool. Do they use gold leaf, decorated initials, > and painted miniatures, too? None of those that I know of. Just Hebrew... =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 13:50:20 -0500 From: "Amy L. Hornburg Heilveil" Subject: Re: [scribes]: Looking for a book... At 01:32 PM 8/22/2002 -0400, Angeldreams83@aol.com wrote: >Please help me someone! I was wondering if there are any good illumination >pattern books out there that would give me some examples of 12th century >French illuminations. I'm having the worst time trying to locate anything >and it's getting to be frustrating! Help! Not a book, but try here: http://www.ebooks4free.net/Manuscripts.htm IIRC they have a couple of manuscripts in the time and area you're looking for. It's also a neat site. *grin* Smiles, Despina =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 13:52:48 -0500 From: "Amy L. Hornburg Heilveil" Subject: Re: [scribes]: Interesting Page > > >> I suspect he means no one has made an entire, hand-lettered > >> Bible in 600 years, not that no one has done smaller works. > > >Well, full Bible, probably not, but the Old Testament is still > >regularly copied by hand... > >Cool. Do they use gold leaf, decorated initials, >and painted miniatures, too? Not for Torah scrolls, which I believe is to what the previous poster was alluding. However, for Purim scrolls, illumination and such is allowed and used - these are scrolls containing the story of Esther. Smiles, Despina =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 15:00:30 -0400 (EDT) From: "Lyle H. Gray" Subject: Re: [scribes]: Interesting Page > Not for Torah scrolls, which I believe is to what the > previous poster was alluding. That's exactly what I alluding to. > However, for Purim scrolls, illumination and such is allowed > and used - these are scrolls containing the story of Esther. Ah, you learn something new every day. Thank you. =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 16:16:34 -0500 From: "D & L Potucek" Subject: Fw: [scribes]: RE: finding Drogin's books, was: re: Newbie questions Sorry Holly!! > Well two weeks ago I couldn't find a book for under 20 dollars and then they > were used, so maybe they just got a new shipment. I have ordered one from > Amazon and cancelled my previous order that was back ordered. > > Thanks All, > > Langry > > =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 18:23:41 -0500 From: "Pafra & Scott Catledge" Subject: Re: [scribes]: Interesting Page I read last year that some seminary or university had taken upon itself the task of handwriting an illuminated Bible; I believe that they have actually finished one book. They received a fair amount of publicity for doing so. Does anyone else recall anything more specific? Scott Catledge - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Amy L. Hornburg Heilveil" To: Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 1:52 PM Subject: Re: [scribes]: Interesting Page > > > > > >> I suspect he means no one has made an entire, hand-lettered > > >> Bible in 600 years, not that no one has done smaller works. > > > > >Well, full Bible, probably not, but the Old Testament is still > > >regularly copied by hand... > > > >Cool. Do they use gold leaf, decorated initials, > >and painted miniatures, too? > > Not for Torah scrolls, which I believe is to what the previous poster was > alluding. However, for Purim scrolls, illumination and such is allowed and > used - these are scrolls containing the story of Esther. > > Smiles, > Despina > > > ============================================================ ======= > To unsubscribe from this list, send email to > with a blank Subject: line and > unsubscribe scribes > in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in > the body. > =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 19:34:23 -0500 From: "Helen Schultz" Subject: Re: [scribes]: Cyrillic, please I want to thank everyone who had so kindly responded to my request. I currently have 3 or 4 people working on getting me the translation/transliteration, so I can have all bases covered . For those who have asked, to save time, I will explain here what my project is: I was approached (while away at Pennsic) by a company that wants to have their name, "Nobel Limited Company" (a global telecommunications firm), and the word "Passion" (meaning the passion that stems from the desire to achieve great things, to strive to get the highest results and to have the intensity to be the best). They are also commissioning 5 other words in different languages to be placed into frames for their corporate offices. I was quite surprised... their request to do something just "popped" up in my old e-mail In-Box. I am excited about doing this project. I got word from them today that it is definitely Russian Cyrillic they want, as they are commissioning another one done in Greek. Again, thank you all for your generous offers of help. At this time, I think I have it covered, but if not, I will get back to you privately (those who offered, that is) later. I promise to post the final project to my web site when I am done, even if they don't accept my prototype. KHvS =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 19:37:51 -0500 From: "Helen Schultz" Subject: Re: [scribes]: Newbie questions I just got a Dover catalog in the mail this last week and it had his book (which is a new reprint, by the way) offered at the just under $11 price. I can see where the older 1968 version might no longer be available, but it was just reprinted either last year or in 2000. KHvS - ----- Original Message ----- From: "D & L Potucek" To: "scribes" Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 6:26 AM Subject: Re: [scribes]: Newbie questions I would jus like to add a note. Looking for Medieval Calligraphy: Its History and Technique by Marc Drogin has been a real challenge. I ended up ordering it Used from Barnes and Nobles. It seems that this book is no longer in print. I checked Amazon and Barnes and Nobles and could only find it in the used section, and a little more spendy than what I was quoted. I don't know if I was looking in the wrong places but it is what I have found. Langry =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 08:25:20 -0500 (CDT) From: "Pixel, Goddess and Queen" Subject: Re: [scribes]: Looking for a book... Hmmm, let me think: There's this one: The Pictorial Arts of the West: 800-1200 (Yale University Press Pelican History of Art) by C. R. Dodwell Yale Univ Pr 1995; ISBN: 0300064934 Available new at $35, used for less. Pacht, Otto. Book Illumination in the Middle Ages. This one's out of print, but has some useful photos. I'll have to check the library for more when I'm not at work. Margaret FitzWilliam On Thu, 22 Aug 2002 Angeldreams83@aol.com wrote: > Please help me someone! I was wondering if there are any good illumination > pattern books out there that would give me some examples of 12th century > French illuminations. I'm having the worst time trying to locate anything and > it's getting to be frustrating! Help! > > Nikki > > =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 10:37:12 EDT From: BRNDALSTON@aol.com Subject: Re: [scribes]: Interesting Page - --part1_129.1650aa1c.2a97a298_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 8/22/2002 7:20:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, scplc@i-55.com writes: > I read last year that some seminary or university had taken > upon itself the task of handwriting an illuminated Bible; I > believe that they have actually finished one book. They > received a fair amount of publicity for doing so. Does > anyone else recall anything more specific? > Scott Catledge > I think this may be the same person/group as mentioned in this discussion. The project is being sponsored by a monestary, I think. There was a nice article on it in National Geographic last fall. Complete with some pictures of the new text and some of the illumination he has planned. But I don't remember all the details now. Brandy - --part1_129.1650aa1c.2a97a298_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 8/22/2002 7:20:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, scplc@i-55.com writes:


I read last year that some seminary or university had taken
upon itself the task of handwriting an illuminated Bible; I
believe that they have actually finished one book.  They
received a fair amount of publicity for doing so.  Does
anyone else recall anything more specific?
Scott Catledge

I think this may be the same person/group as mentioned in this discussion. The project is being sponsored by a monestary, I think. There was a nice article on it in National Geographic last fall. Complete with some pictures of the new text and some of the illumination he has planned. But I don't remember all the details now.

Brandy
- --part1_129.1650aa1c.2a97a298_boundary-- =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 13:04:02 -0700 From: "Ken Stoner" Subject: [scribes]: St Johns Bible, was: Interesting Page This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------InterScan_NT_MIME_Boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C24AE0.3A340A96" - ------_=_NextPart_001_01C24AE0.3A340A96 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.saintjohnsbible.org/ =20 I believe we are referring to the St. John's Bible. =20 - -----Original Message----- From: BRNDALSTON@aol.com [mailto:BRNDALSTON@aol.com]=20 Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 7:37 AM To: scribes@castle.org Subject: Re: [scribes]: Interesting Page =20 In a message dated 8/22/2002 7:20:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, scplc@i-55.com writes:=20 I read last year that some seminary or university had taken=20 upon itself the task of handwriting an illuminated Bible; I=20 believe that they have actually finished one book. They=20 received a fair amount of publicity for doing so. Does=20 anyone else recall anything more specific?=20 Scott Catledge=20 I think this may be the same person/group as mentioned in this discussion. The project is being sponsored by a monestary, I think. There was a nice article on it in National Geographic last fall. Complete with some pictures of the new text and some of the illumination he has planned. But I don't remember all the details now.=20 Brandy=20 - ------_=_NextPart_001_01C24AE0.3A340A96 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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I read last year that some = seminary or university had taken
upon itself the task of handwriting an illuminated Bible; I
believe that they have actually finished one book.  They
received a fair amount of publicity for doing so.  Does
anyone else recall anything more specific?
Scott Catledge


I think this = may be the same person/group as mentioned in this discussion. The project is being sponsored by a monestary, I think. There was a nice article on it in = National Geographic last fall. Complete with some pictures of the new text and = some of the illumination he has planned. But I don't remember all the details = now.

Brandy

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