From: owner-scribes@castle.org (scribes digest) To: scribes-digest@castle.org Subject: scribes digest V8 #28 Reply-To: Sender: owner-scribes@castle.org Errors-To: owner-scribes@castle.org Precedence: bulk scribes digest Tuesday, July 16 2002 Volume 08 : Number 028 ======================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with unsubscribe scribes-digets in the body of the message. Leave the subject line blank. Do not include any additional text. Re: [scribes]: supply list for new scribal night Re: [scribes]: supply list for new scribal night [scribes]: Source for inexpensive art supplies Re: [scribes]: supply list for new scribal night RE: [scribes]: supply list for new scribal night Re: [scribes]: supply list for new scribal night [scribes]: (*Long*) Inside the Baronial Box (was Supply List) RE: [scribes]: think outside the scrolls box RE: [scribes]: Source for inexpensive art supplies ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:08:08 EDT From: PDRUSS@aol.com Subject: Re: [scribes]: supply list for new scribal night - --part1_f7.1e3a3f33.2a65c918_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 7/16/02 4:16:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time, PDRUSS@aol.com writes: > > Greetings, > > It looks like we will be starting our new Scribal Night here in the local > group on the First Wednesday of August. > > I'm looking to create a list of things to tell people to bring. > > What would be the best shades of paint to tell people to start with? Greetings, Thanks to everyone that send me good suggestions for our first scribal night. I'm going to creating one list for the folks from all the suggestions. Once some of the scrolls are done I'll post scans of them on the web. I have about 8 names on my list of folks who are interested in coming to the first Scribal Night. Tamara Shire of Castlemere Trimaris - --part1_f7.1e3a3f33.2a65c918_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 7/16/02 4:16:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time, PDRUSS@aol.com writes:



Greetings,

It looks like we will be starting our new Scribal Night here in the local group on the First Wednesday of August.

I'm looking to create a list of things to tell people to bring.

What would be the best shades of paint to tell people to start with?



Greetings,

Thanks to everyone that send me good suggestions for our first scribal night. I'm going to creating one list for the folks from all the suggestions.

Once some of the scrolls are done I'll post scans of them on the web.

I have about 8 names on my list of folks who are interested in coming to the first Scribal Night.


Tamara
Shire of Castlemere
Trimaris - --part1_f7.1e3a3f33.2a65c918_boundary-- =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:17:55 -0500 From: "Amy L. Hornburg Heilveil" Subject: Re: [scribes]: supply list for new scribal night > >I have about 8 names on my list of folks who are interested in coming to >the first Scribal Night. Congrats, sounds like a great start. Smiles, Despina =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:43:30 -0400 From: "Sally Burnell" Subject: [scribes]: Source for inexpensive art supplies This catalogue just found its way to my desk here at the library where I work. It's from a place called "Art Supply Warehouse" and their prices look pretty reasonable. They carry Holbein, Schminke and Windsor and Newton stuff, among other things, and Arches 140 lb. hot press and other papers we like to use. You can find their on-line catalogue at: www.aswexpress.com Cystennin, might you want to include this on the ScribalArts web site under your list of art suppliers? Have fun shopping! ~Saradwen Midrealm =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 15:47:40 -0400 From: "Kara Westfall" Subject: Re: [scribes]: supply list for new scribal night This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0131_01C22CE0.1E051060 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The lists I've seen posted are great, however a huge (expensive)=20 list of paints can be pretty intimidating to a beginner. Perhaps suggest a bare minimum (red, yellow, blue, white, black) and teach how to mix, or you could make up palettes (or shells) with a blob of each color, and offer them for sale at your cost. That way they are spending under 10 bucks for all the paint, instead of 50 or more (or resorting to really cheap paint). Good luck! Chiara da Ravenna - ------=_NextPart_000_0131_01C22CE0.1E051060 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The lists I've seen posted are great, = however a=20 huge (expensive)
list of paints can be pretty intimidating to a = beginner.=20 Perhaps
suggest a bare minimum (red, yellow, blue, = white, black)=20 and teach
how to mix, or you could make up palettes (or = shells) with=20 a blob of
each color, and offer them for sale at your = cost. That way=20 they are
spending under 10 bucks for all the paint, = instead of 50=20 or more
(or resorting to really cheap = paint).
 
Good luck!
 
Chiara da Ravenna
- ------=_NextPart_000_0131_01C22CE0.1E051060-- =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 13:56:30 -0600 From: "Crystal Olsen" Subject: RE: [scribes]: supply list for new scribal night This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------_=_NextPart_001_01C22D02.E0EA19D3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I agree here. There are sets by Reeve and other companies that are very = inexpensive for a set of 8-10. I believe mine was around $6.00. The = quality isn't great, but it's a great starting point so the beginner can = decide whether this is really their thing, and move on to bigger, = better, and more expensive supplies. =20 Regards, Jaquelinne de Radonvilliers Gryphon's Lair/Artemisia - -----Original Message----- From: Kara Westfall [mailto:kara_westfall@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 1:48 PM To: PDRUSS@aol.com; scribes@castle.org Subject: Re: [scribes]: supply list for new scribal night The lists I've seen posted are great, however a huge (expensive)=20 list of paints can be pretty intimidating to a beginner. Perhaps suggest a bare minimum (red, yellow, blue, white, black) and teach how to mix, or you could make up palettes (or shells) with a blob of each color, and offer them for sale at your cost. That way they are spending under 10 bucks for all the paint, instead of 50 or more (or resorting to really cheap paint). =20 Good luck! =20 Chiara da Ravenna - ------_=_NextPart_001_01C22D02.E0EA19D3 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I=20 agree here. There are sets by Reeve and other companies that are very=20 inexpensive for a set of 8-10. I believe mine was around $6.00. The = quality=20 isn't great, but it's a great starting point so the beginner can decide = whether=20 this is really their thing, and move on to bigger, better, and more = expensive=20 supplies.
 
Regards,
Jaquelinne de = Radonvilliers
Gryphon's Lair/Artemisia
-----Original Message-----
From: Kara Westfall=20 [mailto:kara_westfall@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, = 2002 1:48=20 PM
To: PDRUSS@aol.com; scribes@castle.org
Subject: = Re:=20 [scribes]: supply list for new scribal night

The lists I've seen posted are = great, however=20 a huge (expensive)
list of paints can be pretty intimidating to a = beginner.=20 Perhaps
suggest a bare minimum (red, yellow, blue, = white, black)=20 and teach
how to mix, or you could make up palettes (or = shells)=20 with a blob of
each color, and offer them for sale at your = cost. That=20 way they are
spending under 10 bucks for all the paint, = instead of 50=20 or more
(or resorting to really cheap = paint).
 
Good luck!
 
Chiara da = Ravenna
- ------_=_NextPart_001_01C22D02.E0EA19D3-- =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:15:41 EDT From: PDRUSS@aol.com Subject: Re: [scribes]: supply list for new scribal night - --part1_12e.145ca558.2a65d8ed_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 7/16/02 3:57:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, CrystalO@fairbankscapital.com writes: > > I agree here. There are sets by Reeve and other companies that are very > inexpensive for a set of 8-10. I believe mine was around $6.00. The quality > isn't great, but it's a great starting point so the beginner can decide > whether this is really their thing, and move on to bigger, better, and more > expensive supplies. > > Regards, > Jaquelinne de Radonvilliers > Gryphon's Lair/Artemisia > Yes, I didn't except them to go out and buy all the supplies at once. I thought I would break it down for just the bare essentials to start with, then a list of add-on, ( such as additional colors, etc). The local art supply store while not the greatest does have a few gouache paint kits. I'll have to run by a get some prices. I have enough gouache paints for a few nights of scribal classes, and paper, but not rulers or brushes. Since calligraphy is not my thing, I'll let someone else in the group take up that job. We have at least 3 people who are good at that part. I have some already drawn scroll designs I got from the kingdom, and some other designs for them to trace. I have a small glass end table I use as a light table (not really, my husband used it to tell the truth). I have some French Curves that they can borrow for a few nights and some other things. But I wanted a list of things for them to take home and they can buy a little at a time if they are seriously interested in the art. Thanks, keep the ideas coming. Tamara - --part1_12e.145ca558.2a65d8ed_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 7/16/02 3:57:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, CrystalO@fairbankscapital.com writes:



I agree here. There are sets by Reeve and other companies that are very inexpensive for a set of 8-10. I believe mine was around $6.00. The quality isn't great, but it's a great starting point so the beginner can decide whether this is really their thing, and move on to bigger, better, and more expensive supplies.

Regards,
Jaquelinne de Radonvilliers
Gryphon's Lair/Artemisia





Yes, I didn't except them to go out and buy all the supplies at once.

I thought I would break it down for just the bare essentials to start with, then a list of add-on, ( such as additional colors, etc). The local art supply store while not the greatest does have a few gouache paint kits. I'll have to run by a get some prices.

I have enough gouache paints for a few nights of scribal classes, and paper, but not rulers or brushes. Since calligraphy is not my thing, I'll let someone else in the group take up that job. We have at least 3 people who are good at that part.

I have some already drawn scroll designs I got from the kingdom, and some other designs for them to trace. I have a small glass end table I use as a light table (not really, my husband used it to tell the truth).

I have some French Curves that they can borrow for a few nights and some other things. But I wanted a list of things for them to take home and they can buy a little at a time if they are seriously interested in the art.

Thanks, keep the ideas coming.
Tamara - --part1_12e.145ca558.2a65d8ed_boundary-- =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 19:17:40 EDT From: KMcWhyte@aol.com Subject: [scribes]: (*Long*) Inside the Baronial Box (was Supply List) - --part1_f9.1f2acc20.2a660394_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi again, Tamara... As a gift to my barony for its Investiture this year, I presented Their Excellencies with a wooden box full of art supplies for the scribe workshop/scriptorium I run once a month, and for the A&S meetings out east here in An Dubhaigheainn. This eventually was duplicated to prevent the ongoing passing-off of "the box" like a football (*grin*) considering it takes about an hour and a half to get from one end of the barony to the other, lengthwise... But.... below is the shopping list/inventory inside our box: (All of these purchased at Michael's, *not* during a major sale week...) 1 Reeves Intro Gouache Set (12 colors).........................$6.99 2 Speedball penholder.......................................................2 @ $1.69 1 pad Bristol board, 9" x 12".............................................$4.86 (sale?) 2 bottles Higgins Black Magic ink..................................2 @ $2.99 2 sets Loew-Cornell Natural brushes (#2020) ...........2 @ $1.49 (sale?) 2 sets Speedball C-style nibs............................................2 @ $3.49 1 Speedball Calligraphy set (incl holder & nibs).......$8.49 1 set Design Academy (2H) pencils(four)....................$1.79 1 small transparent 12" plastic T-square.....................$2.29 1 cannister pencil sharpener...........................................$0.89 1 erasing shield...................................................................$1.00 2 kneaded gum erasers.....................................................2 @ $0.79 TOTAL: $47.21 before tax I'm just listing the pricing here to give you an idea of how much these things cost - you might be able to get them for a better price elsewhere, and some of the stuff in the box, like the calligraphy set (nice to have another handle and more nibs, but not as cheap) and eraser shield (excellent for erasing precise spots) aren't all that necessary. Also in the box is a bezier curve - I had a spare one over here that I threw in as part of the donation. The rest - compasses, rulers, etc. come cheap in a stationery store. I generally encourage people showing up to at least bring a carpenter pencil on beginner's calligraphy nights - I have graph paper - and for the upcoming illumination night (tomorrow) I plan on bringing with me spare Chinese food containers (with lids) for water and extra pallets (I only have 2 pallets of my own to share). The box idea turns out to be very much worthwhile, and can accommodate up to 3 people or so. I'm not saying that you should have to go run out and buy everything for everyone showing up - this was a gift out of my own pocket, and the barony of An Dubhaigheainn has liked the idea so much that they created a second box for the group on the other side of the Island (too far for me to drive on a normal weeknight, unless I've had some strong coffee...). The reasoning behind this gift was/is to encourage the newcomers just to show up and not worry so much about the investment in art supplies, and even bring in the not-so-serious folks for a few sessions... Eventually when the serious ones become comfortable, they will start purchasing their own collection, a little at a time. RE: Reeves - it's a better value.... $6.00 for 12 colors, as opposed to $6.00 for one tube of the same size by Winsor & Newton. Not the same consistency/thickness, but you get Crimson, Brilliant Red, Lemon Yellow, Med. Yellow, Yellow Ochre, Leaf Green, Emerald, Blue Lake, Ultramarine, White, Burnt Sienna, and Black - for the same price as one tube of Winsor & Newton's Spectrum Red. I started keeping a scrapbook of my materials (yeah, I've become a scribe geek) a few months back, and it helps to show the people in my scriptorium the differences between what one brand calls one color, and another brand calls the same color - as well as little things like texture and shine, line thicknesses, etc. Fun stuff. I hope someday I can add some actual medieval-like pigments in there, as well as references to other "fun with historical materials" for viewing. It's not just an inventory, it's a reference. :) (If anyone wants to see it, or add to it, let me know....) Anyhow.... sorry to babble. I hope the info I added here has been of use to you, and good luck getting your feet wet in running a scriptorium and getting everyone else together for a night of "doodling"! YIS, ==------->Lady Kayleigh McWhyte, "Mercenary Scribe" (An Dubhaigheainn, East) Elizabeth Frank, Long Island NY In a message dated 7/16/02 4:16:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time, PDRUSS@aol.com writes: > In a message dated 7/16/02 3:57:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > CrystalO@fairbankscapital.com writes: > > > >> >> I agree here. There are sets by Reeve and other companies that are very >> inexpensive for a set of 8-10. I believe mine was around $6.00. The >> quality isn't great, but it's a great starting point so the beginner can >> decide whether this is really their thing, and move on to bigger, better, >> and more expensive supplies. >> >> Regards, >> Jaquelinne de Radonvilliers >> Gryphon's Lair/Artemisia >> > > > > > Yes, I didn't except them to go out and buy all the supplies at once. > > I thought I would break it down for just the bare essentials to start with, > then a list of add-on, ( such as additional colors, etc). The local art > supply store while not the greatest does have a few gouache paint kits. > I'll have to run by a get some prices. > > I have enough gouache paints for a few nights of scribal classes, and > paper, but not rulers or brushes. Since calligraphy is not my thing, I'll > let someone else in the group take up that job. We have at least 3 people > who are good at that part. > > I have some already drawn scroll designs I got from the kingdom, and some > other designs for them to trace. I have a small glass end table I use as a > light table (not really, my husband used it to tell the truth). > > I have some French Curves that they can borrow for a few nights and some > other things. But I wanted a list of things for them to take home and they > can buy a little at a time if they are seriously interested in the art. > > Thanks, keep the ideas coming. > Tamara - --part1_f9.1f2acc20.2a660394_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi again, Tamara...

As a gift to my barony for its Investiture this year, I presented Their Excellencies with a wooden box full of art supplies for the scribe workshop/scriptorium I run once a month, and for the A&S meetings out east here in An Dubhaigheainn. This eventually was duplicated to prevent the ongoing passing-off of "the box" like a football (*grin*) considering it takes about an hour and a half to get from one end of the barony to the other, lengthwise... But.... below is the shopping list/inventory inside our box:
(All of these purchased at Michael's, *not* during a major sale week...)

1 Reeves Intro Gouache Set (12 colors).........................$6.99
2 Speedball penholder.......................................................2 @ $1.69
1 pad Bristol board, 9" x 12".............................................$4.86 (sale?)
2 bottles Higgins Black Magic ink..................................2 @ $2.99
2 sets Loew-Cornell Natural brushes (#2020) ...........2 @ $1.49 (sale?)
2 sets Speedball C-style nibs............................................2 @ $3.49
1 Speedball Calligraphy set (incl holder & nibs).......$8.49
1 set Design Academy (2H) pencils(four)....................$1.79
1 small transparent 12" plastic T-square.....................$2.29
1 cannister pencil sharpener...........................................$0.89
1 erasing shield...................................................................$1.00
2 kneaded gum erasers.....................................................2 @ $0.79

TOTAL:  $47.21 before tax

I'm just listing the pricing here to give you an idea of how much these things cost - you might be able to get them for a better price elsewhere, and some of the stuff in the box, like the calligraphy set (nice to have another handle and more nibs, but not as cheap) and eraser shield (excellent for erasing precise spots) aren't all that necessary.

Also in the box is a bezier curve - I had a spare one over here that I threw in as part of the donation. The rest - compasses, rulers, etc. come cheap in a stationery store.

I generally encourage people showing up to at least bring a carpenter pencil on beginner's calligraphy nights - I have graph paper - and for the upcoming illumination night (tomorrow) I plan on bringing with me spare Chinese food containers (with lids)  for water and extra pallets (I only have 2 pallets of my own to share).

The box idea turns out to be very much worthwhile, and can accommodate up to 3 people or so. I'm not saying that you should have to go run out and buy everything for everyone showing up - this was a gift out of my own pocket, and the barony of An Dubhaigheainn has liked the idea so much that they created a second box for the group on the other side of the Island (too far for me to drive on a normal weeknight, unless I've had some strong coffee...). The reasoning behind this gift was/is to encourage the newcomers just to show up and not worry so much about the investment in art supplies, and even bring in the not-so-serious folks for a few sessions... Eventually when the serious ones become comfortable, they will start purchasing their own collection, a little at a time.

RE: Reeves - it's a better value.... $6.00 for 12 colors, as opposed to $6.00 for one tube of the same size by Winsor & Newton. Not the same consistency/thickness, but you get Crimson, Brilliant Red, Lemon Yellow, Med. Yellow, Yellow Ochre, Leaf Green, Emerald, Blue Lake, Ultramarine, White, Burnt Sienna, and Black - for the same price as one tube of Winsor & Newton's Spectrum Red.

I started keeping a scrapbook of my materials (yeah, I've become a scribe geek) a few months back, and it helps to show the people in my scriptorium the differences between what one brand calls one color, and another brand calls the same color - as well as little things like texture and shine, line thicknesses, etc. Fun stuff. I hope someday I can add some actual medieval-like pigments in there, as well as references to other "fun with historical materials" for viewing.
It's not just an inventory, it's a reference. :)
(If anyone wants to see it, or add to it, let me know....)

Anyhow.... sorry to babble. I hope the info I added here has been of use to you, and good luck getting your feet wet in running a scriptorium and getting everyone else together for a night of "doodling"!

YIS,

==------->Lady Kayleigh McWhyte, "Mercenary Scribe" (An Dubhaigheainn, East)
Elizabeth Frank, Long Island NY

In a message dated 7/16/02 4:16:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time, PDRUSS@aol.com writes:


In a message dated 7/16/02 3:57:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, CrystalO@fairbankscapital.com writes:



I agree here. There are sets by Reeve and other companies that are very inexpensive for a set of 8-10. I believe mine was around $6.00. The quality isn't great, but it's a great starting point so the beginner can decide whether this is really their thing, and move on to bigger, better, and more expensive supplies.

Regards,
Jaquelinne de Radonvilliers
Gryphon's Lair/Artemisia





Yes, I didn't except them to go out and buy all the supplies at once.

I thought I would break it down for just the bare essentials to start with, then a list of add-on, ( such as additional colors, etc). The local art supply store while not the greatest does have a few gouache paint kits. I'll have to run by a get some prices.

I have enough gouache paints for a few nights of scribal classes, and paper, but not rulers or brushes. Since calligraphy is not my thing, I'll let someone else in the group take up that job. We have at least 3 people who are good at that part.

I have some already drawn scroll designs I got from the kingdom, and some other designs for them to trace. I have a small glass end table I use as a light table (not really, my husband used it to tell the truth).

I have some French Curves that they can borrow for a few nights and some other things. But I wanted a list of things for them to take home and they can buy a little at a time if they are seriously interested in the art.

Thanks, keep the ideas coming.
Tamara


- --part1_f9.1f2acc20.2a660394_boundary-- =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:31:37 -0700 From: "Gael Stirler" Subject: RE: [scribes]: think outside the scrolls box This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0061_01C22CE1.EB0C22A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Hillary, Thank you for the information on Mary's Majolica. I am really excited about this new project now. I will share my plates with you as soon as I have finished some. Thank you Lady Dairine - -----Original Message----- From: Hillary Greenslade [mailto:hillaryrg@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 10:26 AM To: Gael Stirler; scribes@castle.org Subject: Re: [scribes]: think outside the scrolls box - --- Gael Stirler wrote: > We have just begun a project to create commemorative plates using the > skills and designs we have learned as illuminators in my Gutenberg School of Scribes classes in Atenveldt. > > Lady Dairine mor o'Uhigin > Dir. Guttenberg School of Scribes > Tir Ysgithr, Atenveldt > Tucson, Arizona You may want to take a look at the work of Lady Mary of Steppes, Ansteorra (Dallas, TX), as she has already put her illumination skills to work in the pottery and ceramics area, and has become quite prolific in it, even winning awards at the local fairs. Her website is at: http://www.marysmaiolicaarts.com/ I was amused by a tale from Lassair in the same Barony, a master illuminor and Laurel, who decided to try her illuminations on ceramics. She purchased the necessary supplies and explained to the store manager what she was intending to do. The manager thought Lassair was trying a project too ambitious for a beginner. When Lassair brought the plate back for firing, fully illuminated and similar to those that Mary shows on her website, the manager was blown away with the results. Lassair put one of her plates in an SCA auction a few years back and it brought over $100. A trick that Lassair used to create even lines was to use a kistka, the small stylus used in pysanky egg making (another outlet for illuminators to try their skills at). Lady Dairine, when you get your commemorative plates done, please show them on a website, so we can see how they turned out. Thanks, Hillary, Ansteorra __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes http://autos.yahoo.com - ------=_NextPart_000_0061_01C22CE1.EB0C22A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: [scribes]: think outside the scrolls box

Dear Hillary,

Thank you for the information on Mary's Majolica. I am = really excited about this new project now. I will share my plates with = you as soon as I have finished some.

Thank you
Lady Dairine

-----Original Message-----
From: Hillary Greenslade [mailto:hillaryrg@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 10:26 AM
To: Gael Stirler; scribes@castle.org
Subject: Re: [scribes]: think outside the scrolls = box


--- Gael Stirler <gael@renstore.com> = wrote:
> We have just begun a project to create = commemorative plates using the
> skills and designs we have learned as = illuminators in my Gutenberg School
of Scribes classes in Atenveldt. >
> Lady Dairine mor o'Uhigin 
> Dir. Guttenberg School of Scribes
> Tir Ysgithr, Atenveldt
> Tucson, Arizona

You may want to take a look at the work of Lady Mary = of Steppes, Ansteorra
(Dallas, TX), as she has already put her illumination = skills to work in the
pottery and ceramics area, and has become quite = prolific in it, even winning
awards at the local fairs.  Her website is = at:
http://www.marysmaiolicaarts.c= om/

I was amused by a tale from Lassair in the same = Barony, a master illuminor
and Laurel, who decided to try her illuminations on = ceramics.   She
purchased the necessary supplies and explained to the = store manager what she
was intending to do.  The manager thought = Lassair was trying a project too
ambitious for a beginner.  When Lassair brought = the plate back for firing,
fully illuminated and similar to those that Mary = shows on her website, the
manager was blown away with the results.   = Lassair put one of her plates in
an SCA auction a few years back and it brought over = $100.

A trick that Lassair used to create even lines was to = use a kistka, the
small stylus used in pysanky egg making (another = outlet for illuminators to
try their skills at).

Lady Dairine, when you get your commemorative plates = done, please show them
on a website, so we can see how they turned = out.  Thanks,
Hillary, Ansteorra


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- ------=_NextPart_000_0061_01C22CE1.EB0C22A0-- =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 19:34:01 -0400 From: ESTAVASH@cs.com Subject: RE: [scribes]: Source for inexpensive art supplies Thanks for sharing the site with us-- they do seem to have some nice things. Has anyone out there tried Lukas gouache? The price is certainly appealing... Ellen Artemisia "Sally Burnell" wrote: >This catalogue just found its way to my desk here at the library where >I work. It's from a place called "Art Supply Warehouse" and their >prices look pretty reasonable. They carry Holbein, Schminke and Windsor >and Newton stuff, among other things, and Arches 140 lb. hot press and >other papers we like to use. > >You can find their on-line catalogue at: > >www.aswexpress.com > >Cystennin, might you want to include this on the ScribalArts web site >under your list of art suppliers? > >Have fun shopping! > >~Saradwen > Midrealm > =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ End of scribes digest V8 #28 ****************************