From: owner-scribes@castle.org (scribes digest) To: scribes-digest@castle.org Subject: scribes digest V7 #94 Reply-To: Sender: owner-scribes@castle.org Errors-To: owner-scribes@castle.org Precedence: bulk scribes digest Sunday, March 24 2002 Volume 07 : Number 094 ======================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with unsubscribe scribes-digets in the body of the message. Leave the subject line blank. Do not include any additional text. Re: [scribes]: Re:Scribes Point & saying no Re: [scribes]: Scribes Point & saying no [scribes]: a new Lady in our midst Re: [scribes]: a new Lady in our midst Re: [scribes]: favourite textura precissa examples? [scribes]: Humanist Hand ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 14:32:53 -0500 (EST) From: "Cecelia M. Hughes" Subject: Re: [scribes]: Re:Scribes Point & saying no On Fri, 22 Mar 2002 RenScribe@aol.com wrote: > It's rare that I have to tell the royalty "No", but I have and will continue > to do so when necessary. It's by testing the boundaries that the royalty know > where they exist. If I don't say *NO* now and again they will soon expect no > other answer than "Yes, Your Majesty, as you wish."... even when they ask for > something unreasonable. > > Eibhlin ni Chaoimh > There speaks a mother! And you have used the same policy with excellent effect on your own three children, too! Brava! Graidhne =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 22:34:09 -0500 From: "Sally Burnell" Subject: Re: [scribes]: Scribes Point & saying no > I have also been one of those scribes frantically working at the last moment. > > Working under that kind of pressure can be fun - once in a while. I don't > recommend it as a regular habit. Been there, done that. My first 6 years in the SCA were spent practically being a one-person scroll factory. I'd no sooner get to an event, scribal box in hand, then I would end up in the Scribe's Room and miss the event for which I paid to attend. It was OK at first. Lonely, a lot, since I was mostly alone with no one to talk to. (We're talking late 70's/early 80's, so over 20 years ago now.) After 6 long years of that, I just one day tried to pick up pen and brush, and nothing came out. I felt totally dead inside. Burned out to a crisp. So I stopped scribing. Took up fibre arts, weaving, spinning, that sort of thing. That was fun and challenging because it was something totally new to learn. I really enjoyed it. Also returned to doing period music, the thing that had originally brought me into the SCA. Sang and played period works with our local music guild. Had a blast doing that, too. Then, the old scribe bug bit again. So..................back I went, but this time, with parameters. No more spending event after event locked in a scribe's room. Yeah, I've still done some of those, "You want it WHEN?????" scrolls, but the older I get, and the less my stamina manages to hold up and the worse my eyes get with age, the less I can do that sort of thing anymore. I really like a good long lead time if possible. If I have had a bad day at work, come home totally spent, I know I don't have to spend 5-6 hours a night frantically trying to finish a last minute scroll commission. I like to be able to come home and take a nap before dealing with my evening, which I like to spend reading or watching whatever good stuff PBS has on TV. And more often than not, I fall asleep fairly early either reading or watching TV. I'm approaching my 45th birthday. I am no longer 21 with great eyesight and boundless stamina. I tire much faster now than I did 20 years ago. So when I work on a scroll, I don't have the energy to put more than about 2 hours a night into it, tops. I go any longer than that, I feel it for days afterwards. So unfortunately, a touch of Real LifeT has managed to catch up to me, and it's called being middle aged. Still, I do like making scrolls. I do still marvel that I can do this, period. It still amazes me that I can produce something pretty. I never thought of myself as an artist. I came into doing art fairly late in life (age 21), so I feel like I am still learning what my professional artist sister has probably already known for years (she went to art school at the University of Cincinnati, School of Design, Art and Architecture). She began doing serious art back when she was still very young and she's now 46. So I still amaze myself that I can do anything even remotely close to what she can do. So anymore, age has caused me to work a lot slower and not to say "yes" all the time to those last minute "YOU WANT IT WHEN???" scrolls. Fortunately, I am getting a lot more lead time than I used to. I imagine that very soon, I'll get word about the scrolls they want done for Midrealm Coronation on April 13th. It'd be nice if I could hear now, but I am waiting for the scroll list from one of the local signets. Should be any day now, I hope. The sooner, the better, as far as I am concerned! That way, I can also do a better job and not do a hasty rush job on what should be a nice scroll. ~Saradwen Midrealm =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 05:37:24 -0800 (PST) From: Barb Ding Subject: [scribes]: a new Lady in our midst I'm pleased to report that TRM Lucan and Yana of the East presented an Award of Arms to Sarra the Lymner yesterday at Mudthaw, for her calligraphy, illumination, and copious contributions to reducing our backlog list. I had the pleasure of doing her scroll. Vivat Lady Sarra! Dorren __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® http://movies.yahoo.com/ =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 10:01:08 EST From: KMcWhyte@aol.com Subject: Re: [scribes]: a new Lady in our midst Vivat, Lady Sarra! (Though I thought you already had your AoA until I heard them call you up...) It was great to finally get to meet everyone at Mudthaw at the scribes' meeting there, and finally put faces to names. Hopefully at some future event we'll have more time to get together and talk in person again... I really liked having the gathering, and just wish we had more than an hour (and that I had less things to do during the day). Thankfully, I took a picture of Sarra getting her AoA - whether it comes out is still to be seen, considering my camera has no flash, and I was using 800 speed film. Either way, congrats, and keep going, Sarra, your work is gorgeous, and you have a great teacher. :) ==----> Lady Kayleigh McWhyte, "Mercenary Scribe" (East) Elizabeth Frank, Long Island NY In a message dated Sun, 24 Mar 2002 8:39:49 AM Eastern Standard Time, Barb Ding writes: > I'm pleased to report that TRM Lucan and Yana of the > East > presented an Award of Arms to Sarra the Lymner > yesterday at Mudthaw, for her calligraphy, > illumination, and copious contributions to reducing > our backlog list. I had the pleasure of doing her > scroll. > > Vivat Lady Sarra! > > Dorren > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® > http://movies.yahoo.com/ > =================================================================== > To unsubscribe from this list, send email to > with a blank Subject: line and > unsubscribe scribes > in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in > the body. =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 13:21:16 -0500 From: "Helen Schultz" Subject: Re: [scribes]: favourite textura precissa examples? Genevieve: I'm not positive if this is the same script you are looking for, but I found this web site this afternoon and it looks similar to that of the Luttrell Psalter. Anyway, it is a nifty Book of Hours at Brandeis Library. http://www.library.brandeis.edu/specialcollections/specialevents/BookofHours/ind ex.html Meisterin Katarina Helene von Schoenborn (KHvS), OL Shire of Narrental (Peru, Indiana) Middle Kingdom http://ww1.comteck.com/~meisterin - ----- Original Message ----- > Greetings, > > I'm busy learning the textura precissa bookhand (aka textura precissa > sine pedibus), and I'm looking for online exemplars. > > I know that the Lutrell Psalter is one of the canonical examples. Can > anyone point me to good samples online? or other favourite online > sources of this hand? > > I'm particularly interested in getting the letter spacing, word spacing, > line spacing correct. > > Regards, > > Genevieve la flechiere > Skraeling Althing, Ealdormere =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 20:59:33 -0500 From: "Barbara Bishop" Subject: [scribes]: Humanist Hand Does any one know where I can find samples of the Humanist hand?lluminated samples would be ideal but and document will do. Brigit "Honor servire est" The Honor is to Serve I do not know what your destiny will be, but one thing I know: the only ones among you who will really be happy are those who have sought and found how to serve. Albert Schweitzer _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. 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