From: owner-scribes@castle.org (scribes digest) To: scribes-digest@castle.org Subject: scribes digest V7 #63 Reply-To: Sender: owner-scribes@castle.org Errors-To: owner-scribes@castle.org Precedence: bulk scribes digest Monday, January 14 2002 Volume 07 : Number 063 ======================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with unsubscribe scribes-digets in the body of the message. Leave the subject line blank. Do not include any additional text. [scribes]: Instructors needed in April! Re: [scribes]: FW: Backlog lists & preprints [scribes]: RE: Backlog lists & preprints Re: [scribes]: FW: Backlog lists & preprints RE: [scribes]: FW: Backlog lists & preprints [scribes]: Back log & twelfth night An Tir Re: [scribes]: Back log & twelfth night An Tir Re: [scribes]: Back log & twelfth night An Tir [scribes]: Ductus Calligraphy and Paleography [scribes]: Re:Backlog lists & preprints Re: [scribes]: rehab [scribes]: knowne world scribal symposium?? RE: [scribes]: knowne world scribal symposium?? RE: [scribes]: knowne world scribal symposium?? Re: [scribes]: knowne world scribal symposium?? [scribes]: East: Event, 4-6-02, Proposed Canton of the Western Gate Re: [scribes]: rehab ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 10:00:36 EST From: BRNDALSTON@aol.com Subject: [scribes]: Instructors needed in April! - --part1_18a.1bf9282.2972fb14_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings Everyone! The Barony of Marinus is holding an event on April 20 called "The Pen or The Sword?". At this event we will be offering classes in the scribal arts. Offers of classes in Heraldry and other Arts and Sciences topics will also be entertained. If you would like to teach a class at this event, then please contact the autocrat, Lady Brandwyn Alston of the Rift (Stella) at brndalston@aol.com or (757) 488-3597 and give her the following information: Name of class Name of instructor Duration of class (one hour, two hours) Limit of class size Fee for class Materials students should bring (if any) Preferred time to hold class (morning or afternoon) The event will be on Saturday, April 20 from 8am to 8 pm. Classes start at 10 am and end at 6 pm with a lunch break. Lunch will be $3.00 and is a fundraiser for the Kingdom Scribe Fund. The location of the event is Stonebridge Elementary School on Jolliff Road in Chesapeake, Virginia (Just off I-664 and 58/460/13 intersection). Besides the classes there will also be tournaments and workshops in armored combat, rapier and target archery. Merchants are welcome. There will not be a feast, but I am hoping to have a post revel at a hotel as soon as I get one nailed down. There are also several A&S competitions planned. Contact the autocrat for more information. A flyer will be posted soon. Thank you, Brandy (Lady Brandwyn Alston of the Rift) Deputy Clerk Signet, Atlantia >> If men can run the world, why can't they stop wearing neckties? How intelligent is it to start the day by tying a noose around your neck? -Linda Ellerbee- << - --part1_18a.1bf9282.2972fb14_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings Everyone!

The Barony of Marinus is holding an event on April 20 called "The Pen or The Sword?". At this event we will be offering classes in the scribal arts. Offers of classes in Heraldry and other Arts and Sciences topics will also be entertained.

If you would like to teach a class at this event, then please contact the autocrat, Lady Brandwyn Alston of the Rift (Stella) at brndalston@aol.com or (757) 488-3597 and give her the following information:

Name of class
Name of instructor
Duration of class (one hour, two hours)
Limit of class size
Fee for class
Materials students should bring (if any)
Preferred time to hold class (morning or afternoon)


The event will be on Saturday, April 20 from 8am to 8 pm. Classes start at 10 am and end at 6 pm with a lunch break. Lunch will be $3.00 and is a fundraiser for the Kingdom Scribe Fund. The location of the event is Stonebridge Elementary School on Jolliff Road in Chesapeake, Virginia (Just off I-664 and 58/460/13 intersection).
Besides the classes there will also be tournaments and workshops in armored combat, rapier and target archery. Merchants are welcome. There will not be a feast, but I am hoping to have a post revel at a hotel as soon as I get one nailed down. There are also several A&S competitions planned.

Contact the autocrat for more information. A flyer will be posted soon.

Thank you,
Brandy
(Lady Brandwyn Alston of the Rift)

Deputy Clerk Signet, Atlantia
>>
If men can run the world, why can't
they stop wearing neckties?
How intelligent is it to start the day
by tying a noose around your neck?

-Linda Ellerbee-
<< - --part1_18a.1bf9282.2972fb14_boundary-- =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 13:11:34 -0700 From: "Eva Mehlhose" Subject: Re: [scribes]: FW: Backlog lists & preprints Jonathan Blaecstan, Master of mine....would you care to straighten this out? Your ever busy apprentice Alex, Aten Signet >>Just in case any one else is wondering I just checked the East Kingdom backlog list and there are 54 unassigned on our published list. The East Kingdom does not use preprints for anything. I know that some of the kingdoms that do use preprints have lists that number in the hundreds. Does anyone think there might be any correlation? << I don't think there's any correlation at all. Caid does not use preprints for anything either (except promissories) and our backlog numbers are in the 100s if you were to count all the awards ever given. Because we purged the list some time ago and had anyone who had received an award reconfirm that they actually wanted a scroll, we've reduced the backlog to maybe a couple hundred instead of maybe 1000. We average less than 30 scrolls per reign completed, so we fall behind every year. I seem to recall hearing that about 10 years ago, the East had someone who nearly single-handedly cleared out their backlog in a couple of years. I don't remember who the scribe was, but remember being told he worked a graveyard shift where his entire job consisted of changing computer tapes about once every half hour. To keep himself from going completely stir crazy he took his scribal supplies to work and did scrolls all night. If that story is true, that could explain the East's lack of backlog - I think you guys have just never fallen behind again because you have a good active scribal cadre as well. Tetchubah, Caid, the kingdom of probably about a dozen active scribes Cry "Bother" and let loose the Poohs of war. =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 13:52:52 -0700 From: "freewaydiva" Subject: [scribes]: RE: Backlog lists & preprints >I know that some of the kingdoms that do use preprints have lists that number in the hundreds. Does anyone think there might be any correlation? << Hi all... I don't think there's a correlation either. An Tir (and subsequently Avacal) went to the Charter system some time ago, and while it's kept the backlog from getting bigger at an outlandish rate, there was still a horrendous backlog already in place. Our Sable Sable (hi Celdae!) has attempted to reconfirm with recipients of promissories that they are still active and do want their scroll, which has altered the backlog somewhat, but I'm given to understand that there's much yet to do. I would be inclined to argue that, if anything, a huge backlog spawns charters (or pre-prints) rather than the other way around. YIS, HL Bebhinn ingen Aoidh Royal Scribe, Principality of Avacal Kingdom of An Tir =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 17:59:58 -0800 (PST) From: Suzanne Powell Subject: Re: [scribes]: FW: Backlog lists & preprints Please! Please! Please! Please do not spread misinformation about what constitutes "promissories". Here in Ansteorra, we utilize "promissories" which are photocopied line drawings and calligraphy which are hand painted with guaches and gilded using various types of gold. As far as I know, promisorries have not been colored with markers for at least the past 10-15 years. We spend a lot of time and effort on the scrolls here in Ansteorra, even if they are not all completely hand done. Thanks for listening. - -- Suzanne - --- BRNDALSTON@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 1/11/2002 5:35:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, > kenstone@microsoft.com writes: > > ... Those Kingdoms with more scribes > are going to have a lower backlog than those with fewer scribes. I also think > > the Kingdoms who use only photocopies that are colored with markers (what we > call prommisories in Atlantia) for their scrolls and require the recipient to > > commission a hand-done scroll have lower backlogs - if any at all. > Brandy > (Lady Brandwyn Alston of the Rift) > Deputy Clerk Signet, Atlantia ===== HL Suzanne de la Ferté Barony of Bjornsborg, Kingdom of Ansteorra - ------------------------------------------------------------ Suzanne C. Powell San Antonio, Texas suzanne_powell@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 20:39:36 -0700 From: "freewaydiva" Subject: RE: [scribes]: FW: Backlog lists & preprints >Please do not spread misinformation about what constitutes "promissories". Here >in Ansteorra, we utilize "promissories" which are photocopied line drawings and >calligraphy which are hand painted with guaches and gilded using various types >of gold. In An Tir we call them Charters, and the designs change from reign to reign (or sometimes even within a reign), but it's the same deal - guache, gilding, etc. We can spend more time painting a charter as I've seen spent on scrolls-from-scratch, with spectacular results. And the recipients are generally thrilled. As are we when they are given out. :) YIS, HL Bebhinn ingen Aoidh Royal Scribe, Principality of Avacal Kingdom of An Tir =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 20:31:38 -0800 From: ren.touch@juno.com Subject: [scribes]: Back log & twelfth night An Tir Thank you Dame Tamylm Those Of you that attended An Tir Twelfth night know how much she did . Great job working on and organizing a Fine Display Many by new scribes & the less new Thank you Tam and scribes all. In Service Johann Fairhand ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 22:52:19 -0800 From: "Tammy L. Williams" Subject: Re: [scribes]: Back log & twelfth night An Tir I wanted to thank those scribes both in and out of An Tir who entered our12th Night Backlog Scroll contest (we had 22 entries). People were simply amazed and delighted at the results - one scribe wanted to do her scroll assignment over again because her cat came in from a rainy An Tir night and promptly jumped up on the scroll that was laid out to dry and walked across it - the recipient who has several cats at home was quite happy to take his Leaf of Merit A.S. 12 circa home, commenting that he understood perfectly and was simply delighted to receive it after so many years besides being delighted of the portayal of Sister Guinneth and himself:-} Hopefully I will find someone with pictires to post later) The overall winners were: Populace Choice - Mahliqa (Our Queen who just stepped down) for a Court Barony Scroll for Aveloc the Elder who recently passed away that was presented to her lord, Aveloc the Young, his son during Their final court. The calligraphy was Batarde and the illumination included plenty of raised gesso gold leaves and several figures throughout the scroll that represented Aveloc the Elder's interests and pursuits. Best New Scribe - Lady Asa Hrafnasdottir for Beregnaria's Goutte (seen here recently on the scribe's list - people who had seen it on-line said that the pictures didn't do justice to how well it looked in person) - I need to send her the prize, the book "The Illuminated Alphabet" in addition to a special scribal coin given to those who entered scrolls for the backlog which I also need to send to our two other out of Kingdom entrants Sarra the Limner and Eibhear O'Seanachain.(please send me mailing instructions:-} Herald's Choice - Lady Tegan of Conway and Alexandria D. Kovrkounna? (both very new scribes) for a scroll depicting a castle festooned with heraldic banners as well as the achievement itself. Best Calligaphy - Aedan mac Suibne (another new scribe) for a wonderfully executed psuedo-arabic hand (the whole scroll was amazing in my opinion) - my judges, who included a calligraphy maven Laurel (Hi, Iago:-}said it was the most consistent, well porpotioned text, totally appropriate for the illumination hand of all the scrolls. Thank you again to all those who entered, the work was simply beautiful. Dame Tamlyn of Wyntersea PS. I invite the scribes from the(se) list to enter another Backlog contest held the first weekend of March in Shittemwoode, details below: KINGDOM A&S SCROLL CONTEST The College of Scribes is sponsoring a contest at An Tir A&S Championship for Kingdom backlog scrolls. The categories for the contest will revolve around material documentation. Scribes are asked to enter scrolls using a pre-1600 design style in one or more of the following categories: Gold laying method Pigment application Ink Overall use of materials. Experienced Overall use of materials. Novice (under two years experience) Prizes: booklet of patent gold leaf, an assortment of Master John's pigments, an illumination book, and An Tir College of Scribes T-shirts. The two overall winners will have first pick followed by the individual category entry winners. Judging will be based on the Kingdom A&S "Objects" judging form (found on the An Tir A&S web page) using categories 1, 4, 5B-E, 6 and 8. You may also enter your scroll in the Kingdom A&S Championship (An Tir residents only) or individual entry competition at the same time. If possible, please matte frame it (picture frames are not recommended since the judges will want to not have glass between them and the scroll this time round:-} Please contact Companion Celdae at naiad@axion.net (see listing in Crier for Sable Sable under the Heralds for additional contact info) for a backlog assignment. Please contact me so I know how much display space we need to arrange - Dame Tamlyn of Wyntersea tamlyn@gte.net or 425-497-1038. - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 8:31 PM Subject: [scribes]: Back log & twelfth night An Tir > Thank you Dame Tamylm > > Those Of you that attended An Tir Twelfth night know how much she did . > Great job working on and organizing a Fine Display > Many by new scribes & the less new > > Thank you Tam and scribes all. > > In Service > > Johann Fairhand > ________________________________________________________________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. > =================================================================== > To unsubscribe from this list, send email to > with a blank Subject: line and > unsubscribe scribes > in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in > the body. > =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 23:07:03 -0800 From: "Tammy L. Williams" Subject: Re: [scribes]: Back log & twelfth night An Tir Oops - my mistake Eibhear IS from An Tir (about 17 hours away) Tam - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tammy L. Williams" To: ; ; Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 10:52 PM Subject: Re: [scribes]: Back log & twelfth night An Tir > Best New Scribe - Lady Asa Hrafnasdottir for Beregnaria's Goutte (seen here > recently on the scribe's list - people who had seen it on-line said that the > pictures didn't do justice to how well it looked in person) - I need to send > her the prize, the book "The Illuminated Alphabet" in addition to a special > scribal coin given to those who entered scrolls for the backlog which I > also need to send to our two other out of Kingdom entrants Sarra the Limner > and Eibhear O'Seanachain.(please send me mailing instructions:-} > =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 10:07:28 -0600 From: C Fearon Subject: [scribes]: Ductus Calligraphy and Paleography This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --Boundary_(ID_gi4qTJIFWBBQEu1LQscVhg) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Greetings all I have seen this CD mentioned on a few lists, but I don't know if it ever showed up on this one. Just in case, here is the URL. The demo version (just try it online, you don't download anything) is really neat. I inquired about the cost.. $70 US (includes shipping) from Australia http://www.medieval.unimelb.edu.au/ductus/ Regards Siobhan ____________ Elianora Siobhan de Cassell Barony of Castel Rouge Northshield Middle Kingdom Siobhan - --Boundary_(ID_gi4qTJIFWBBQEu1LQscVhg) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Greetings all
 
I have seen this CD mentioned on a few lists, but I don't know if it ever showed up on this one.  Just in case, here is the URL.  The demo version (just try it online, you don't download anything) is really neat.  I inquired about the cost.. $70 US (includes shipping) from Australia
 
 
 
Regards
 
Siobhan
____________
Elianora Siobhan de Cassell
Barony of Castel Rouge
Northshield
Middle Kingdom
Siobhan
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Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 17:40:56 EST From: RenScribe@aol.com Subject: [scribes]: Re:Backlog lists & preprints In a message dated 1/13/2002 10:43:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, freewaydiva@mindspring.com writes: > >in Ansteorra, we utilize "promissories" which are photocopied line drawings and > >calligraphy which are hand painted with guaches and gilded using various types > >of gold. > In An Tir we call them Charters, and the designs change from reign to reign > (or sometimes even within a reign), but it's the same deal - guache, > gilding, etc. In AEthelmearc we have stared doing something similar - not because we don't have enough talented and generous scribes, but because we can always use more :-) We use photocopies of original layouts on heavy card stock (which later become promissories) or hand traced layouts on watercolor paper (which can be permanent scrolls or promissories) as teaching aids at a roving scriptorium that pops up at various events. There are several styles of borders available that span the range of skill and preference. We provide the materials and someone to field questions. All visitors to the scriptorium have to do is sit down & paint. It has sparked an increased interest in the scribal arts ... and as an added benefit, it has made people aware of how much effort goes into making even the simplest looking scrolls. The scriptorium helps the scribal community reach folks who want to do scrolls but don't know where to start or those who didn't realize they don't have to be both an illuminator and a calligrapher. The traveling scriptorium is under a year old but already several gentles who started out painting photocopied scrolls have moved on to being active scribes, producing scrolls on their own :-) Eibhlin ni Chaoimh Sylvan Signet of AEthelmearc =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 17:14:48 -0800 (PST) From: Hillary Greenslade Subject: Re: [scribes]: rehab - --- ren.touch@juno.com wrote: > Greetings > I forget the exact recommendations ..... > you will want to do gentle motion to maintain and increase your range of > motion > remember the saying??? : " no pain no gain " just forget that concept > !!!!! > pain is a stop sign. > slowly work in load bearing but i would check with your doctor and > physical therapist > they should be able to supply some hand outs . and give recommendations > > do not over do it and rush in too fast or heavy > good luck > Johann LMP > > > here is a fun question for you. any recomendation on how to reabilitate > an arm after shoulder surgery. the staples are not even out yet so i > figure i have time, but if any of you have had to do it, please let me > know. I had rotator cuff surgery. i did not know that a week after > surgery that i would have almost no movement in my shoulder...so... any > suggestion? > your sertvant > mahee First, I agree with Johann... do what your Doctor says. But, ask questions. Sometimes my doctor does not volunteer much, unless I ask. Next, a trick I learned from a jeweler, who uses a lot of the same muscle groups calligraphers use, is to get a good tennis ball. Place the ball on the wall behind your shoulder, and roll it around, pushing as hard as you need to. This can provide similar pressure of a massage, but a heck of a lot cheeper. Just remember that sometimes the color balls will blead the color onto your wall, so stick with a neutral beige or white color. Cheers, Hillary Greenslade Stargate, Ansteorra mgreene@mpan.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 17:49:40 -0800 (PST) From: Hillary Greenslade Subject: [scribes]: knowne world scribal symposium?? I've seen a few posts about some local kingdom symposium on scribal subjects, and I wonder... is there a SCA Knowne World Scribal Symposium, for all the SCA scribes? I know that the College of Heralds has held a scribal track in conjuction with their Knowne World Heralds Symposium (KWHS)for years. Some years I've seen the track supported well with intermediate & advanced classes and some years, it was mostly a beginners track. And I've seen a number of scribal classes attached to the Knowne World Arts & Sciences Symposium (KWAS). So, I was wondering what folks thought about having well known SCA scribal teachers and scribes gathering once a year at some weekend symposium (generally at a hotel). Is there any interest in such a thing? Or do we instead want to continue supporting the KWHS or the KWAS? Or do we even support them at all? Hillary Greenslade Stargate, Ansteorra hillaryrg@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 18:04:20 -0800 From: "Ken Stoner" Subject: RE: [scribes]: knowne world scribal symposium?? Generally, this is done via the Known World A&S Symposium and the KW Heraldic Symposium. Ken Stoner Stress, Performance and Scale - -----Original Message----- From: Hillary Greenslade [mailto:hillaryrg@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 5:50 PM To: Scribes Subject: [scribes]: knowne world scribal symposium?? I've seen a few posts about some local kingdom symposium on scribal subjects, and I wonder... is there a SCA Knowne World Scribal Symposium, for all the SCA scribes? I know that the College of Heralds has held a scribal track in conjuction with their Knowne World Heralds Symposium (KWHS)for years. Some years I've seen the track supported well with intermediate & advanced classes and some years, it was mostly a beginners track. And I've seen a number of scribal classes attached to the Knowne World Arts & Sciences Symposium (KWAS). So, I was wondering what folks thought about having well known SCA scribal teachers and scribes gathering once a year at some weekend symposium (generally at a hotel). Is there any interest in such a thing? Or do we instead want to continue supporting the KWHS or the KWAS? Or do we even support them at all? Hillary Greenslade Stargate, Ansteorra hillaryrg@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 21:36:12 -0500 From: "Holly" Subject: RE: [scribes]: knowne world scribal symposium?? Yep. The latter of which will be held this year on June 21-23, 2002 Known World Heraldic Symposium Ramada Inn, Kississimmee (just south of Orlando, FL, near Disney) I welcome you all to Trimaris! :-) :-)---Holly---<--<-@ > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-scribes@castle.org [mailto:owner-scribes@castle.org]On > Behalf Of Ken Stoner > Generally, this is done via the Known World A&S Symposium and the KW > Heraldic Symposium. > > Ken Stoner > Stress, Performance and Scale > > -----Original Message----- > From: Hillary Greenslade [mailto:hillaryrg@yahoo.com] > > I've seen a few posts about some local kingdom symposium on scribal > subjects, and I wonder... is there a SCA Knowne World Scribal Symposium, > for > all the SCA scribes? > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 23:18:49 EST From: PDRUSS@aol.com Subject: Re: [scribes]: knowne world scribal symposium?? - --part1_178.21ffca5.297507a9_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/14/02 9:37:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, hollygrimmett@yahoo.com writes: > > Yep. The latter of which will be held this year on June 21-23, 2002 > Known World Heraldic Symposium > Ramada Inn, Kississimmee (just south of Orlando, FL, near Disney) > > I welcome you all to Trimaris! :-) > > > :-)---Holly---<--<-@ > > > Actually the one this year is called " The Known World Heraldic and Scribal Arts Symposium" and the URL is http://www.kwhs.org/ Tamara Trimaris - --part1_178.21ffca5.297507a9_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/14/02 9:37:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, hollygrimmett@yahoo.com writes:



Yep.  The latter of which will be held this year on June 21-23, 2002
Known World Heraldic Symposium
Ramada Inn, Kississimmee (just south of Orlando, FL, near Disney)

I welcome you all to Trimaris!  :-)


:-)---Holly---<--<-@ 







Actually the one this year is called " The Known World Heraldic and Scribal Arts Symposium" and the URL is
http://www.kwhs.org/


Tamara
Trimaris
 - --part1_178.21ffca5.297507a9_boundary-- =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 23:18:44 EST From: KMcWhyte@aol.com Subject: [scribes]: East: Event, 4-6-02, Proposed Canton of the Western Gate - --part1_c5.1c63c86a.297507a4_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings all.... Just wanted to spread the word -- I received a call tonight from the seneschal of the proposed Canton of the Western Gate (Huntington & Huntington Station area, Long Island NY) that our event planned for April 6, 2002 is on. The event is listed at http://www.eastkingdom.org/event-detail.html?eid=402 (Spring Comes To the Western Gate of An Dubhaigheainn) (weekend after Easter/Passover) So where does scribing fit into this? I've volunteered to teach a beginner's class in Calligraphy for an hour toward the beginning of the event, with a long break in-between.... At about 3:30pm, when the merchants start breaking down, and people start gathering for court, I would like to invite those scribes who can make it from out of town and from the local area to gather for a brief tea, to display our work in the hall, share ideas, and shoot the breeze about things scribal.... There's also a handful of people in the area who are very much interested in getting started, and a good gathering of scribes would be an excellent way to promote the Art and inspire them. As for the other activities going on during the day.... heavens, I won't be sitting indoors ALL day on a Saturday in April.... There will be archery (I may be needed out there), there will be fighting, there is quite possibly even going to be an equestrian demo. The herbalist guild will also be present, from what I know, and court begins at 4pm, with feast to follow (the afternoon scribal gathering would thus be only a half hour, unless enough people show up and gather earlier). I hope anyone who can attend will; this event listing will show up in next month's Pikestaff, but is currently available on the East Kingdom "Events" webpage, for anyone interested. In Service, Lady Kayleigh McWhyte, Mercenary Scribe (E.Frank, Long Island, NY) - --part1_c5.1c63c86a.297507a4_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings all....

Just wanted to spread the word -- I received a call tonight from the seneschal of the proposed Canton of the Western Gate (Huntington & Huntington Station area, Long Island NY) that our event planned for April 6, 2002 is on.

The event is listed at
http://www.eastkingdom.org/event-detail.html?eid=402
(Spring Comes To the Western Gate of An Dubhaigheainn)
(weekend after Easter/Passover)

So where does scribing fit into this?

I've volunteered to teach a beginner's class in Calligraphy for an hour toward the beginning of the event, with a long break in-between.... At about 3:30pm, when the merchants start breaking down, and people start gathering for court, I would like to invite those scribes who can make it from out of town and from the local area to gather for a brief tea, to display our work in the hall, share ideas, and shoot the breeze about things scribal.... There's also a handful of people in the area who are very much interested in getting started, and a good gathering of scribes would be an excellent way to promote the Art and inspire them.

As for the other activities going on during the day.... heavens, I won't be sitting indoors ALL day on a Saturday in April.... There will be archery (I may be needed out there), there will be fighting, there is quite possibly even going to be an equestrian demo. The herbalist guild will also be present, from what I know, and court begins at 4pm, with feast to follow (the afternoon scribal gathering would thus be only a half hour, unless enough people show up and gather earlier).

I hope anyone who can attend will; this event listing will show up in next month's Pikestaff, but is currently available on the East Kingdom "Events" webpage, for anyone interested.

In Service,

Lady Kayleigh McWhyte, Mercenary Scribe
(E.Frank, Long Island, NY) - --part1_c5.1c63c86a.297507a4_boundary-- =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 23:27:10 -0700 From: Catie Helm-Clark Subject: Re: [scribes]: rehab > > > > here is a fun question for you. any recomendation on how to reabilitate > > an arm after shoulder surgery. the staples are not even out yet so i > > figure i have time, but if any of you have had to do it, please let me > > know. I had rotator cuff surgery. i did not know that a week after > > surgery that i would have almost no movement in my shoulder...so... any > > suggestion? trying to catch up with all my holiday and post-holiday email here. I ended up with my leg in a cast for 6 mos (one ankle, six pieces, don't even ask). The muscle atrophy was something else. It took 6 weeks after the cast came off before it was back to normal. I had corrective surgery a few years later to clear up what problems were left over from the original accident (imagine what a tendon would look like after being run through a pasta machine...). Though the muscle atrophy wasn't as bad as the original, there was still significant degradation of motion and strength during the healing period from the corrective surgery (plus the fact that I now had half the original tendon). It took 3 mos. to get back to normal the second time around. This unfortunately is not the only incident/surgery I've been through. (I had a catastrophic youth...) It's not unusual for post-surgery recup- and rebuild to take several weeks to a couple of mos., depending on exactly what was done (hard tissue injuries/surgeries tend to get back to normal faster than soft tissue injuries/surgeries, as a general rule of thumb). I've personally never done anything to my shoulders, thank God, so I can't give you any good shoulder tips. But having been through a few fractures and casts and surgeries, I have found that the real danger is the impatience that hits a few weeks in, at not being as well as fast as you think you ought to be getting. As the unfortunate vetran of too many broken bones and torn tendons and ligaments, the voice of experience here urges you to take it easy and don't push it. Soft tissue recuperation never goes as fast as anyone likes, and the PTs I've seen over the years would concur. Be good to yourself and don't go faster than the doc or the PTs want you to go. ttfn, Accident-Waiting-To-Happen (otherwise known as Therasia) =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ End of scribes digest V7 #63 ****************************