From: owner-scribes@castle.org (scribes digest) To: scribes-digest@castle.org Subject: scribes digest V7 #43 Reply-To: Sender: owner-scribes@castle.org Errors-To: owner-scribes@castle.org Precedence: bulk scribes digest Friday, November 30 2001 Volume 07 : Number 043 ======================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with unsubscribe scribes-digets in the body of the message. Leave the subject line blank. Do not include any additional text. RE: [scribes]: Vellum & a New Book [scribes]: A question to the list about Ductus 1.2 [scribes]: Re: A question to the list about Ductus 1.2 Re: [scribes]: A question to the list about Ductus 1.2 [scribes]: Latin texts Re: [scribes]: Jeanne D'evreux Re: [scribes]: Jeanne D'evreux [scribes]: Vellum/parchment suppliers ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 11:51:57 EST From: Luiseach@aol.com Subject: RE: [scribes]: Vellum & a New Book In a message dated Tue, 27 Nov 2001 11:21:11 PM Eastern Standard Time,Cystennin writes: **much snipping** > I think this was in one of Thompsons books. > > He also talks about the origin of the word Parchment as being related to > the greek for papyrus... i.e. Parchment is basically that which you > write on. That's interesting, I'd heard (and read, IIRC) that the word parchment came from the name of the city of Pergamum {modernly, Bergama, Turkey} which was a center of parchment/vellum production in classical times. According to the Lexicon Webster's Dictionary, our English word parchment comes from an old French word "parchemin" that was picked up in Middle English as "perchemin" Luighseach, reading e-mail and waiting for a meeting to start =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 15:25:01 -0500 From: "D Humberson" Subject: [scribes]: A question to the list about Ductus 1.2 Holiday Greetings to the List! In the course of preparing my Christmas wish list, I have encountered a CD-ROM based C&I course called 'Ductus'. It appears to be an academic product from NZ( from memory, so it might be Australia), and the online samples are quite interesting. Has anyone else heard of this course, and would you mind sharing opinions, etc? My thanks to you all, Ragnar Ketilsson _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 15:56:51 -0500 From: Elizabeth Blatt Subject: [scribes]: Re: A question to the list about Ductus 1.2 At 3:25 PM -0500 11/28/01, D Humberson wrote: >Holiday Greetings to the List! > >In the course of preparing my Christmas wish list, I have encountered a CD-ROM based C&I course called 'Ductus'. It appears to be an academic product from NZ( from memory, so it might be Australia), and the online samples are quite interesting. Has anyone else heard of this course, and would you mind sharing opinions, etc? > I've used bits and pieces of it for my own research. Its purpose is to support the study of medieval Latin paleography (the study of the history of writing), so presents information on the majority of medieval Latin scripts and provides some introduction to codicological issues relevant to the scripts (like ruling and pricking, for instance). The bibliographic information it provides on the scripts is good, especially when there are summaries available for some of the entries, though I wish it was searchable by scripts discussed as well as by author (it's possible this is a feature available to the full version--I can't tell). The selection of scrips and presentation of images of each is also very useful--and illustrates the major points of script analysis--though not exhaustive (for instance, it will tell you for the example provided that a hyphen peculiar to Beneventan appears, but does not discuss all the unique characteristics attributed to Beneventan punctuation); the definitions of paleographic terms is thorough. Based strictly on the limited trial version available online, I've found it a good resource and have several times wished I had access to its complete information for research projects of my own: it's a handy introduction to paleography, and will give you pointers for research elsewhere. I hope this helps! Elianora Mathewes Dominion of Myrkfaelinn, AE =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 22:55:39 +1100 From: Steve Roylance Subject: Re: [scribes]: A question to the list about Ductus 1.2 hi I own a copy of Ductus, the January 2000 edition and it is great. In is produced at the University of Melbourne in Australia (where I live) and put my copy to read. It has exemples of 60 scripts mostly the early ones pre 1100 and some Quicktime(tm) of someone writing 5 scripts. I think it was well worth the money, but I am biased and I have not explored it anywhere near enough. as ever Thorfinn Stormhold, Lochac, West Melbourne, Australia D Humberson wrote: > > In the course of preparing my Christmas wish list, I have encountered a > CD-ROM based C&I course called 'Ductus'. It appears to be an academic > product from NZ( from memory, so it might be Australia), and the online > samples are quite interesting. Has anyone else heard of this course, and > would you mind sharing opinions, etc? > > My thanks to you all, > Ragnar Ketilsson =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 15:19:59 -0600 (CST) From: "Pixel, Goddess and Queen" Subject: [scribes]: Latin texts Does anybody have any good sources for Continental exemplars in Latin, circa 500 or 600 C.E., with or without anglo/saxon miniscule glosses? For that matter, does anybody have any good sources for a period formulary for the aforementioned period? Margaret FitzWilliam =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 18:52:59 -0600 From: Gwendoline Rosamond Subject: Re: [scribes]: Jeanne D'evreux Actually, I just checked it and it's now up to $131.40. I'm so glad I already have a copy.... Which reminds me, in my continual pursuit of manuscript facsimilies, I've run across a few I've never heard of. Can anyone give me opinions on the following? The Hours of Simon De Varie (Getty Museum Monographs on Illuminated Manuscripts) by James H. Marrow The Worcester Psalter by Ivor, Sir Atkins (Editor) The Eadwine Psalter The Basilica Psalter by Jay Hunstiger The Gospels of Tsar Ivan Alexander by Ekaterina Dimitrova The Winchester Bible by Claire Donovan The Becket Leaves (Manuscripts in Colour Series) by Janet Backhouse, Christopher De Hamel Book of Hours of Jeanne De L'Avenier by Ann Erickson; Paperback The Bedford Hours by Janet Backhouse Cheers, Gwendoline At 10:23 AM 11/28/2001 -0600, Amy L. Hornburg Heilveil wrote: >http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1489897804 > >is where one can find a good looking copy of the hours of Jeanne >D'evreux. Wonderful little manuscript done mostly in grisalle. The copy >they are offering is, quite frankly, in better shape than the copy I have. > >Current bid is $9.99, auction ends Dec. 2 > >Smiles, >Despina =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 17:27:11 -0800 From: Carolyn_Richardson@prosystemfx.com Subject: Re: [scribes]: Jeanne D'evreux >>The Hours of Simon De Varie (Getty Museum Monographs on Illuminated Manuscripts) by James H. Marrow<< This is an excellent fascimile edition. I bought it several years ago, shortly after it came out. It wasn't cheap then - I think about $95, but I thought it was worth the price. Nice later period stuff. >>The Winchester Bible by Claire Donovan<< I have something on the Winchester Bible but I don't think it's by this author - I think it's by Janet Backhouse instead. I'll have to check. Tetchubah of Greenlake, Caid =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 19:18:58 -0500 From: "Susan Carroll-Clark" Subject: [scribes]: Vellum/parchment suppliers Greetings! I'm trying to direct a friend to suppliers of parchment and/or vellum. I already know about the Guild of Limners and Rick Cavasin (last I heard he had cut his production down, though); does anyone else know of any more sources? Thanks-- Nicolaa who will get to put pretty things on the vellum once my friend gets it... =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ End of scribes digest V7 #43 ****************************