From: owner-scribes@castle.org (scribes digest) To: scribes-digest@castle.org Subject: scribes digest V7 #27 Reply-To: Sender: owner-scribes@castle.org Errors-To: owner-scribes@castle.org Precedence: bulk scribes digest Sunday, October 21 2001 Volume 07 : Number 027 ======================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with unsubscribe scribes-digets in the body of the message. Leave the subject line blank. Do not include any additional text. Re: [scribes]: looking for charter info [scribes]: Re: charter wording [scribes]: [OT] Anthrax and you Re: [scribes]: Anthrax and you -- On-Topic Re: [scribes]: Anthrax and you -- On-Topic [scribes]: Thanks for Charter info [scribes]: demo request ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 21:36:51 -0500 From: Greg Young/Jocelyn Wirth Subject: Re: [scribes]: looking for charter info >Greetings everyone, >I am doing some research on wordings for period charters for guilds and >mercenary companies. Does anyone know where I can find some period >examples of charters? Greetings, A year and a half ago, I was researching period candlemaking. Both the Chandler's Guild and the Tallow Candlemakers Guild charters were online at that point. If I remember correctly, the Chandlers' Guild charter was from the 1400's. I don't have their addresses handy, but try searching for Chandlers' and Tallow and see what you get. I was using Metacrawler for my searches. Ainesleah ***************************************************************************** Mistress Hermina Matilda de Ainesleah of Meredene, OL Member # 19216 HL Robin Arthur Kyrke, Esq.; Principality Archery Marshal Member # 28653 Barony of Castel Rouge Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Jocelyn Wirth and Greg Young excalibr@gatewest.net ****************************************************************************** =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 19:33:24 +1000 From: Christine Robertson Subject: [scribes]: Re: charter wording Try J J G Alexander's "Medieval Scribes and Their methods of Work" (sorry, no further details, I'm downtown and most of my books are 60 miles away in the mountains). Pretty sure there's a couple of charter wordings in the appendices. If all else fails, contact me and I'll scan and OCR the stuff on the weekend for you. - --Yseult de Lacy - ----------------------------------------------------------------- Chris Robertson http://goldgryph.virtualave.net Yseult de Lacy, OL Wentworth Falls, Sydney Barony of Rowany NSW Australia Lochac (West Kingdom) =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 12:40:14 -0700 From: "Nicholas Mercier" Subject: [scribes]: [OT] Anthrax and you This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C15708.DE894EE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear lords and ladies, I normally do not write of topic messages. Hell I don't write many = messages period. However in light of the recent cases of anthrax I felt = I should at least pass on advice that was given to me. Most of us are = not in a threatened position because currently all the mail attacks have = been targeted at people in power and people in the public eye. However = many of us may work in situations when we deal with office mail and we = don't know if the attacks will escalate to reach the general public. * Common sense and care should be used in inspecting and opening = mail or packages. * Examine unopened envelopes for foreign bodies or powder. * Do not open letters with your hands. Use a letter opener. * Open letters and packages with a minimum of movement to avoid = spilling any contents. What Types of Letters May be Suspect: * Any letter or package that has suspicious or threatening messages written on it. * Letters with oily stains. * Envelopes that are lopsided, rigid, bulky, discolored or have a strange odor. * Envelopes with no return address. * Unexpected envelopes from foreign countries. * No postage or non-cancelled postage. * Improper spelling of common names, places or titles. * Marked with restrictive endorsements, such as "Personal" or "Confidential". * Shows a city or state in the postmark that does not match the = return address. * Handwritten or poorly typed addresses. FOR SUSPECT ENVELOPES: * DO NOT OPEN THE ENVELOPE OR PACKAGE. * Leave it and evacuate the room. * KEEP others from entering. * NOTIFY your supervisor. * Contact your local police. FOR PACKAGES THAT ARE OPENED AND WHICH CONTAIN SUSPICIOUS MATERIAL DO NOT PANIC 1. Anthrax organisms can cause infection in the skin, gastrointestinal system or the lungs. To do so, the organism must be rubbed into abraded skin, swallowed, or inhaled as a fine, aerosolized mist. Disease can be prevented after exposure to the anthrax spores by early treatment with = the appropriate antibiotics. Anthrax is not spread from one person to = another person. 2. Anthrax cannot be easily aerosolized out of an envelope or package containing powder. The same facts and conditions are generally true for other bacteria likely to be considered as biological weapons. CONTAIN THE EXPOSURE * Close off the room (doors and windows), do not allow anyone other than qualified emergency personnel to enter. * If possible, list all people who were in the room or area. Give this list to police for further investigation and so that proper instructions can be given for medical follow-up. * Close the package or envelope to limit additional exposure. Do = not clean powder up; keep others away. * Do not touch your eyes, nose or any other part of your body. * Wash your hands thoroughly with soap and water to prevent = spreading any powder to your face. * If clothing is heavily contaminated, don't brush vigorously. Don't allow yourself to be paniced into not opening any mail. But be = cautious. Terrorism only works if we allow ourselves to be terrorized. By remain = calm and stable we win. We have to be cautious now, but we don't have = to be paranoid. Again I appologize for using this list to spread a message like this, = however I felt that it is good to have a set of guidelines. Feel free = to spread this freely among friends and co-workers. Nikolia=20 - ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C15708.DE894EE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear lords and ladies,
 
I normally do not write of topic = messages. =20 Hell I don't write many messages period.  However in light of the = recent=20 cases of anthrax I felt I should at least pass on advice that was given = to=20 me.  Most of us are not in a threatened position because currently = all the=20 mail attacks have been targeted at people in power and people in the = public=20 eye.  However many of us may work in situations when we deal with = office=20 mail and we don't know if the attacks will escalate to reach the general = public.
 
*     Common sense = and care=20 should be used in inspecting and opening mail
or=20 packages.
*     Examine unopened envelopes for = foreign=20 bodies or powder.
*     Do not open letters with = your=20 hands.  Use a letter opener.
*   Open letters and = packages=20 with a minimum of movement to avoid spilling
any = contents.
What Types of Letters May be=20 Suspect:
*     Any letter or package that has = suspicious=20 or threatening messages
written on it.
*     = Letters=20 with oily stains.
*     Envelopes that are = lopsided,=20 rigid, bulky, discolored or have a
strange = odor.
*    =20 Envelopes with no return address.
*     = Unexpected=20 envelopes from foreign countries.
*     No = postage or=20 non-cancelled postage.
*     Improper spelling of = common=20 names, places or titles.
*     Marked with = restrictive=20 endorsements, such as "Personal"=20 or
"Confidential".
*     Shows a city or state = in the=20 postmark that does not match the = return
address.
*    =20 Handwritten or poorly typed addresses.
FOR SUSPECT = ENVELOPES:
*    =20 DO NOT OPEN THE ENVELOPE OR PACKAGE.
*     Leave = it and=20 evacuate the room.
*     KEEP others from=20 entering.
*     NOTIFY your=20 supervisor.
*     Contact your local = police.
 
FOR PACKAGES THAT ARE OPENED AND WHICH = CONTAIN=20 SUSPICIOUS MATERIAL

DO NOT PANIC
1.  Anthrax organisms = can cause=20 infection in the skin, gastrointestinal
system or the lungs.  To = do so,=20 the organism must be rubbed into abraded
skin, swallowed, or inhaled = as a=20 fine, aerosolized mist.  Disease can be
prevented after exposure = to the=20 anthrax spores by early treatment with the
appropriate = antibiotics. =20 Anthrax is not spread from one person to another
person.

2. = Anthrax=20 cannot be easily aerosolized out of an envelope or package
containing = powder.  The same facts and conditions are generally true = for
other=20 bacteria likely to be considered as biological weapons.

CONTAIN = THE=20 EXPOSURE
*      Close off the room (doors = and=20 windows), do not allow anyone other
than qualified emergency = personnel to=20 enter.
*      If possible, list all people = who were=20 in the room or area.  Give
this list to police for further = investigation=20 and so that proper
instructions can be given for medical=20 follow-up.
*      Close the package or = envelope to=20 limit additional exposure. Do not
clean powder up; keep others=20 away.
*      Do not touch your eyes, nose or = any=20 other part of your body.
*      Wash your = hands=20 thoroughly with soap and water to prevent spreading
any powder to = your=20 face.
*      If clothing is heavily = contaminated,=20 don't brush vigorously.
 
Don't allow yourself to be paniced into = not opening=20 any mail.  But be cautious.
Terrorism only works if we allow = ourselves to be=20 terrorized.  By remain calm and stable we win.  We have to be = cautious=20 now, but we don't have to be paranoid.
 
Again I appologize for using this list = to spread a=20 message like this, however I felt that it is good to have a set of=20 guidelines.  Feel free to spread this freely among friends and=20 co-workers.
 
Nikolia



 
- ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C15708.DE894EE0-- =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 13:40:21 EDT From: KMcWhyte@aol.com Subject: Re: [scribes]: Anthrax and you -- On-Topic - --part1_79.1cac3384.28ff1c85_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just out of curiosity... Reports come in every once in a while stating that the Anthrax disease is also spread through contact with infected animal products. This includes leathers. Do you think we scribes should be concerned, with regard to parchment (probably not if it's treated with plenty of bleaches/chemicals, I would think), or any purchase of leather clothing, as SCAdians? - --Lady Kayleigh McWhyte, Mercenary Scribe (East) E.Frank, Long Island, NY - --part1_79.1cac3384.28ff1c85_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just out of curiosity...

Reports come in every once in a while stating that the Anthrax disease is also spread through contact with infected animal products. This includes leathers.

Do you think we scribes should be concerned, with regard to parchment (probably not if it's treated with plenty of bleaches/chemicals, I would think), or any purchase of leather clothing, as SCAdians?

--Lady Kayleigh McWhyte, Mercenary Scribe (East)
E.Frank, Long Island, NY - --part1_79.1cac3384.28ff1c85_boundary-- =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 14:29:08 -0500 (CDT) From: "Chiara Francesca Arianna d'Onofrio" Subject: Re: [scribes]: Anthrax and you -- On-Topic I would be suspect of clothes but not parchment that we work with that has been cured for our specific use. And then only if it is of a game animal. I grew up in south texas, ranching community. We lived, as all Texans and Ranchers across the nation live, with anthrax in our every day lives. We never got sick, we did not die. My point is that what they are finding is a manufactured product, refined from nature yes but deliberatly made. If anything we already have a small immunity or resistance to it just due to our proximity to it in our upbringing if ranching was a part of your life. There is a news man that came on the radio that mentioned that there was a case of a biker that contracted the desease from a leather vest he/she purchased. I do not put much into the story only because they do not state the type of leather, if the biker made it him/herself or any other points of facts. Bottom line, please use your better judgement. Do not be so quick to believe a small bit of info. Look deeper, dig for the truth. Over all thank you for your message on the list, it will help a great deal just for a personal piece of mind. :) Order your parchment from a known dealer that cures it carefully and documents their work for you. - -- Sincerely, Chiara Francesca chiara@io.com =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 17:51:09 EDT From: BRNDALSTON@aol.com Subject: [scribes]: Thanks for Charter info - --part1_28.1c561a03.2900a8cd_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thank you to everyone who responded to my request for info on Charters. I will not be able to go check any of it out until next week cuz I am going horseback riding this weekend at Atlantia's Equestrian War Practice!!! Yeeeehaaaaa! (Can you tell I am a bit excited?) I just wanted to thank all of you before Monday. Brandy - --part1_28.1c561a03.2900a8cd_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thank you to everyone who responded to my request for info on Charters.

I will not be able to go check any of it out until next week cuz I am going horseback riding this weekend at Atlantia's Equestrian War Practice!!! Yeeeehaaaaa! (Can you tell I am a bit excited?)

I just wanted to thank all of you before Monday.

Brandy - --part1_28.1c561a03.2900a8cd_boundary-- =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 23:57:58 -0500 From: Melissa Robins Subject: [scribes]: demo request [ deleted - SPAM ] ------------------------------ End of scribes digest V7 #27 ****************************