From: owner-scribes@castle.org (scribes digest) To: scribes-digest@castle.org Subject: scribes digest V7 #19 Reply-To: Sender: owner-scribes@castle.org Errors-To: owner-scribes@castle.org Precedence: bulk scribes digest Thursday, October 4 2001 Volume 07 : Number 019 ======================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with unsubscribe scribes-digets in the body of the message. Leave the subject line blank. Do not include any additional text. RE: [scribes]: Re:Simple Carrier RE: [scribes]: Re:Simple Carrier Re: [scribes]: Re:Simple Carrier [scribes]: question Re: [scribes]: question (answer) [scribes]: RE: humor (was: Burnout & Teaching) Re: [scribes]: RE: humor (was: Burnout & Teaching) Re: [scribes]: RE: humor (was: Burnout & Teaching) Re: [scribes]: Re:Simple Carrier Re: [scribes]: RE: humor (was: Burnout & Teaching) [scribes]: Gouche Proportions Re: [scribes]: Gouche Proportions [scribes]: lighting Re: [scribes]: Gouche Proportions Re: [scribes]: Gouche Proportions RE: [scribes]: Just a note ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 13:04:10 -0700 From: Carolyn_Richardson@prosystemfx.com Subject: RE: [scribes]: Re:Simple Carrier Ryan, for Caidan scrolls putting some more foam between the 2 pieces of foamboard, or a thicker piece of cardboard would be the best for a carrier. I've had seals soften and lose their imprint even from just being in a warm room when they were pressed too tightly between 2 pieces of cardboard or foamboard. Space is a good idea in Caid. Tetchubah of Greenlake, Caid Cry "Bother" and let loose the Poohs of War... =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 14:22:18 -0700 From: Mark Miller Subject: RE: [scribes]: Re:Simple Carrier This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. - ------_=_NextPart_001_01C14C51.7AEB7DC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Another question about carriers. If I am making them for Kingdom use (loaner after presentation, to get the scroll safely home to the recipient), what size should I design for?? How big should that "pocket" be? Do I have to worry about dangling seals or is that style reasonably uncommon? - ------_=_NextPart_001_01C14C51.7AEB7DC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: [scribes]: Re:Simple Carrier

Another question about = carriers.
If I am making them for Kingdom use = (loaner after presentation, to get the scroll safely home to the = recipient), what size should I design for?? How big should that = "pocket" be? Do I have to worry about dangling seals or is = that style reasonably uncommon?

- ------_=_NextPart_001_01C14C51.7AEB7DC0-- =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 18:11:51 -0500 From: "Corinna Taylor/Al Frank" Subject: Re: [scribes]: Re:Simple Carrier This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0076_01C14C36.E03502C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: [scribes]: Re:Simple CarrierAssuming that there is gold on the = scroll, it's best not to let anything touch it. It's unfortunate that = it can't be presented ready framed under glass, because for some reason = people's fingers cant' resist the urge to touch gold! Whatever case you make, I suggest including instructions for care, = storage and framing. Corinna ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mark Miller=20 To: scribes@castle.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 1:58 PM Subject: RE: [scribes]: Re:Simple Carrier I'm new to helping the scribes in our kingdom and I was looking at = doing something like that... Was going to use foamboard as a base... = like the idea of covering with cloth. My question is... Should I provide a raised border of foamboard on one = of the sides, so as to create a "case" or pocket for the scroll, rather = than having the sides press against and contact the scroll directly. My = concern is for the thickness of the wax seals. Having no experience = with this, I may be anticipating problems that do not exist. Any comments.=20 Ryan of Rickford,=20 Herald for Al-Sahid, Kingdom of Caid=20 -----Original Message-----=20 From: RenScribe@aol.com [mailto:RenScribe@aol.com]=20 Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 7:54 AM=20 To: scribes@castle.org=20 Subject: [scribes]: Re:Simple Carrier=20 Baroness Julianna has made over 100 scroll carriers for the Kingdom of = AEthelmearc. She glues cotton fabric onto a sturdy base, lines them = with=20 white fabric and adds 2 cords to tie the top closed. The outside of = the case=20 has a large white tag that says - Property of AEthelmearc - Please = return to=20 Signet or scribe for reuse. If I have any of these on hand I take them = to=20 events so recipients can safely get their scrolls home. Many = AEthelmearc=20 scribes deliver their scrolls to events in these carriers or something = else=20 that the recipient can take the scroll home in.=20 My first carrier was a piece of upholstery fabric and a piece of white = cotton=20 sewn together like a pillowcase. I slipped inside - 2 pieces of = cardboard=20 held together with a duct tape hinge and sewed up the opening of the = fabric.=20 I've since refined this a bit and added ribbon ties on the sides and = handles=20 made out of heavy trim on the top ...and the fabric is now a nice = piece of=20 tapestry that I bought at Pennsic. :-)=20 It's really pretty and has held up well through over 4 years of abuse. = In an emergency I'll use anything to protect a scroll ... pretty or = not.=20 Eibhlin=20 = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=20 To unsubscribe from this list, send email to =20 with a blank Subject: line and=20 unsubscribe scribes=20 in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in=20 the body.=20 - ------=_NextPart_000_0076_01C14C36.E03502C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: [scribes]: Re:Simple Carrier
Assuming that there is gold on the = scroll, it's=20 best not to let anything touch it.  It's unfortunate that it can't = be=20 presented ready framed under glass, because for some reason people's = fingers=20 cant' resist the urge to touch gold!
 
Whatever case you make, I suggest = including=20 instructions for care, storage and framing.
 
Corinna
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Mark Miller
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, = 2001 1:58=20 PM
Subject: RE: [scribes]: = Re:Simple=20 Carrier

I'm new to helping the scribes in our kingdom and I = was=20 looking at doing something like that...  Was going to use = foamboard as a=20 base... like the idea of covering with cloth.

My question is... Should I provide a raised border = of=20 foamboard on one of the sides, so as to create a "case" or pocket for = the=20 scroll, rather than having the sides press against and contact the = scroll=20 directly.  My concern is for the thickness of the wax = seals.  Having=20 no experience with this, I may be anticipating problems that do not=20 exist.

Any comments.

Ryan of Rickford,
Herald = for Al-Sahid,=20 Kingdom of Caid

-----Original Message-----
From:=20 RenScribe@aol.com [mailto:RenScribe@aol.com] =
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 7:54 AM
To:=20 scribes@castle.org
Subject: [scribes]: = Re:Simple=20 Carrier


Baroness Julianna has made over 100 scroll carriers = for the=20 Kingdom of
AEthelmearc. She glues cotton = fabric onto a=20 sturdy base, lines them with
white fabric = and adds 2=20 cords to tie the top closed. The outside of the case
has a large white tag that says - Property of AEthelmearc - = Please=20 return to
Signet or scribe for reuse. If I = have any of=20 these on hand I take them to
events so = recipients can=20 safely get their scrolls home. Many AEthelmearc
scribes deliver their scrolls to events in these carriers or = something=20 else
that the recipient can take the scroll = home in.=20

My first carrier was a piece of upholstery fabric = and a piece=20 of white cotton
sewn together like a = pillowcase. I=20 slipped inside - 2 pieces of cardboard
held = together=20 with a duct tape hinge and sewed up the opening of the fabric. =

I've since refined this a bit and added ribbon ties = on the=20 sides and handles
made out of heavy trim on = the top=20 ...and the fabric is now a nice piece of
tapestry that=20 I bought at Pennsic. :-)

It's really pretty and has held up well through over = 4 years=20 of abuse.
In an emergency I'll use anything = to protect=20 a scroll ... pretty or not.

Eibhlin
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=20
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- ------=_NextPart_000_0076_01C14C36.E03502C0-- =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 23:26:28 -0500 From: "ELIZABETH DUPUY" Subject: [scribes]: question This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0047_01C14C62.D37D6140 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Greetings, Would someone please explain to me what/who a Mercenary Scribe is? Some = who does scrolls (design, calligraphy and/or paint) for hire? A person = who is obsessed with creating scrolls?=20 Lady Elspeth la Faire shire Glaedenfeld, Kingdom Meridies - ------=_NextPart_000_0047_01C14C62.D37D6140 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Greetings,
Would someone please = explain to me=20 what/who a Mercenary Scribe is?  Some who does scrolls (design, = calligraphy=20 and/or paint) for hire?  A person who is obsessed with creating = scrolls?=20
Lady = Elspeth la=20 Faire
shire = Glaedenfeld,
Kingdom = Meridies
 
 
- ------=_NextPart_000_0047_01C14C62.D37D6140-- =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 01:00:52 EDT From: KMcWhyte@aol.com Subject: Re: [scribes]: question (answer) Actually it's a term I made up, in jest. (not an official thing in the SCA, as far as I know) There did exist in ancient times what is known as a 'lay scribe', a person who did private scribing at a fee. In my case, the term 'mercenary scribe' adheres to my occupation as a mercenary archer, and as a scribe.... The p.c. way of saying 'ransom note artist', though these days, the cost of doing scrolls outside my own kingdom is self-imposed... My 'pay' is just the look on a recipient's face, for the most part -- but my mercenary group, House Black Fletch, tends to work for cookies and beer out on the battlefields, like a few other mercenary companies I know of. Hope this answers your question... Lady Kayleigh McWhyte, Mercenary Scribe (East) E.Frank, Long Island NY =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 06:59:03 -0400 From: "Holly" Subject: [scribes]: RE: humor (was: Burnout & Teaching) > From: owner-scribes@castle.org [mailto:owner-scribes@castle.org]On > Behalf Of KMcWhyte@aol.com > > Heaven forbid I have to live up to my nickname as a mercenary scribe, and > start charging people a healthy fee of beer and taxes for any work not > related to the Signet Office. Gives me an idea for some wall art: "Will scribe for Harp ale". Thanks for the idea. *g* > --Lady Kayleigh McWhyte, Mercenary Scribe (East) > E.Frank, Long Island NY > > > "Friends don't let friends scribe drunk. Don't drink and scribe." --KMcW. :-D That would make a cute SCA t shirt.. :-)---Holly---<--<-@ _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 07:34:26 EDT From: KMcWhyte@aol.com Subject: Re: [scribes]: RE: humor (was: Burnout & Teaching) RE: The T-shirt thing.... it'll happen. If not sooner, then certainly before Pennsic. :) - --Kayleigh =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 08:41:51 -0500 From: "Margareta vanden Velde" Subject: Re: [scribes]: RE: humor (was: Burnout & Teaching) > > > From: owner-scribes@castle.org [mailto:owner-scribes@castle.org]On > > Behalf Of KMcWhyte@aol.com > > > > Heaven forbid I have to live up to my nickname as a mercenary scribe, and > > start charging people a healthy fee of beer and taxes for any work not > > related to the Signet Office. > > > Gives me an idea for some wall art: "Will scribe for Harp ale". > Thanks for the idea. *g* > My husband and a friend and I, all scribes, put up a sign at our Baronial 12th Night (which is kind of a joke event in Ealdormere) saying "Authentic Documents: Done Cheap- Knighthoods; Grants of Arms; landed Baron/Baroness; declarations of love/war; deeds to property/goods; maps; letters; writs of absolution for the seven deadly sins; etc" and we arrived at the event with some scroll blanks photocopied onto parchment-coloured resume paper, and coloured in the pictures there, and filled in whatever words our "employers" wanted us to put. This friend of ours came all the way from Atlantia to do this because it sounded like so much fun, and I was worried that business was going to be slow, but the three of us scribed steadily for five hours, and had to sub-contract for the painting at the end to get everything done by feast! We made up all sorts of fun scrolls and I'd even forged the Ealdormere seal (changing the words, don't worry) so they did look pretty authentic when they were done, they certainly passed the ten-foot rule. We made people give us *something*, just a trinket, to make it official. Anyway by the end of the evening there were a ton of "authentic" scrolls floating around the event, "proving" all sorts of interesting things. One local lady loves hers so much she framed it and put it up next to her GoA.... Another fellow who was visiting from Newfoundland took his home as a souvenir. We had a great time. I understand that *creating* documents in period that were of dubious veracity was a period practice, can anyone confirm or deny this absolutely? Margareta vanden Velde Barony of Skraeling Althing, Ealdormere Ottawa, Ontario =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 09:16:42 EDT From: BRNDALSTON@aol.com Subject: Re: [scribes]: Re:Simple Carrier - --part1_126.518026b.28edbb3a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/3/2001 3:16:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, MMiller@CI.VICTORVILLE.CA.US writes: > My question is... Should I provide a raised border of foamboard on one of > the sides, so as to create a "case" or pocket for the scroll, rather than > having the sides press against and contact the scroll directly. My concern > is for the thickness of the wax seals. Having no experience with this, I > may be anticipating problems that do not exist. > I made a scroll case for my own use (not to give away with the scrolls) out of foam board. I took two large piece of board, big enough to hold my largest bristol board, plus two inches all around. Then I cut some of the foam into half inch wide strips and glued them to the outer edges of one of the large pieces of foam board on the "inside" of the scroll case. Then I took the other large piece and used white duck tape to tape it to the bottom piece. I have not covered it yet. I was thinking of just painting my arms on it it, or making a fabric pocket with a drawstring at the top to slide it in to make it look a bit better. With the foam pieces around the edge, it gives you 1/4 inch deep to hold your scrolls and they don't slide out, or get pressed flat. Plus the foamboard is lighter than cardboard and easier to work with. Brandy - --part1_126.518026b.28edbb3a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/3/2001 3:16:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, MMiller@CI.VICTORVILLE.CA.US writes:


My question is... Should I provide a raised border of foamboard on one of the sides, so as to create a "case" or pocket for the scroll, rather than having the sides press against and contact the scroll directly.  My concern is for the thickness of the wax seals.  Having no experience with this, I may be anticipating problems that do not exist.


I made a scroll case for my own use (not to give away with the scrolls) out of foam board. I took two large piece of board, big enough to hold my largest bristol board, plus two inches all around. Then I cut some of the foam into half inch wide strips and glued them to the outer edges of one of the large pieces of foam board on the "inside" of the scroll case. Then I took the other large piece and used white duck tape to tape it to the bottom piece. I have not covered it yet. I was thinking of just painting my arms on it it, or making a fabric pocket with a drawstring at the top to slide it in to make it look a bit better.

With the foam pieces around the edge, it gives you 1/4 inch deep to hold your scrolls and they don't slide out, or get pressed flat. Plus the foamboard is lighter than cardboard and easier to work with.

Brandy - --part1_126.518026b.28edbb3a_boundary-- =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 08:46:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Suzanne Powell Subject: Re: [scribes]: RE: humor (was: Burnout & Teaching) Greetings! Our local renaissance festival (Texas Renaissance Festival) will be starting up this weekend. It runs for 6 weeks. The SCA has a compound there in which we demo all sorts of things. I'm generally there most weekends demonstrating calligraphy/illumination, dance, or the bardic arts. I think your "Authentic Documents" idea is wonderful! By any chance could I steal it for TRF? If so, do you (by any chance) have the wordings you used for the scrolls? That sounds like so much fun! - -- Suzanne - --- Margareta vanden Velde wrote: > > My husband and a friend and I, all scribes, put up a sign at our Baronial > 12th Night (which is kind of a joke event in Ealdormere) saying "Authentic > Documents: Done Cheap- Knighthoods; Grants of Arms; landed Baron/Baroness; > declarations of love/war; deeds to property/goods; maps; letters; writs of > absolution for the seven deadly sins; etc" and we arrived at the event with > some scroll blanks photocopied onto parchment-coloured resume paper, and > coloured in the pictures there, and filled in whatever words our "employers" > wanted us to put. This friend of ours came all the way from Atlantia to do > this because it sounded like so much fun, and I was worried that business > was going to be slow, but the three of us scribed steadily for five hours, > and had to sub-contract for the painting at the end to get everything done > by feast! We made up all sorts of fun scrolls and I'd even forged the > Ealdormere seal (changing the words, don't worry) so they did look pretty > authentic when they were done, they certainly passed the ten-foot rule. We > made people give us *something*, just a trinket, to make it official. > > Anyway by the end of the evening there were a ton of "authentic" scrolls > floating around the event, "proving" all sorts of interesting things. One > local lady loves hers so much she framed it and put it up next to her > GoA.... Another fellow who was visiting from Newfoundland took his home as a > souvenir. We had a great time. I understand that *creating* documents in > period that were of dubious veracity was a period practice, can anyone > confirm or deny this absolutely? > > Margareta vanden Velde > Barony of Skraeling Althing, Ealdormere > Ottawa, Ontario > ===== HL Suzanne de la Ferté Stargate/Westgate, Kingdom of Ansteorra - ------------------------------------------------------------ Suzanne C. Powell Houston, Texas suzanne_powell@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 16:16:19 -0700 From: "Nicholas Mercier" Subject: [scribes]: Gouche Proportions This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0029_01C14CEF.E6F69920 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable So I bit the bullet and bought my Windsor Newton Starter set. Only to = find that they have no suggestions at all on the insert as to = proportions of water to gouche. Rather then waste a drop and have a = head ache I figured I could ask here. It looks way to thick to use = straight from the tube, I'm assuming it is cut with water, about how = much is recommended? Hate to be a bother, I'm just new to this paint stuff. :) Nikolia East Kingdom - ------=_NextPart_000_0029_01C14CEF.E6F69920 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
So I bit the bullet and bought my = Windsor Newton=20 Starter set.  Only to find that they have no suggestions at all on = the=20 insert as to proportions of water to gouche.  Rather then waste a = drop and=20 have a head ache I figured I could ask here.  It looks way to thick = to use=20 straight from the tube, I'm assuming it is cut with water, about how = much is=20 recommended?
 
Hate to be a bother, I'm just new to = this paint=20 stuff. :)
 
Nikolia
East Kingdom
- ------=_NextPart_000_0029_01C14CEF.E6F69920-- =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 17:42:16 -0300 From: "Martin Higgins" Subject: Re: [scribes]: Gouche Proportions Well I have read over and over that it should be thinned to a thick cream like mixture... this is what I tend to do anyway as I am able to paint thin yet still have good coverage if that makes any sense. hope it helps Griet =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 16:22:22 -0500 (CDT) From: "Pixel, Goddess and Queen" Subject: [scribes]: lighting I was shopping for light bulbs the other day, and came across one of those extended life low-wattage fluorescent bulbs that claimed to be like natural light. Ott bulbs are something like $50. This was more like $15. Does anyone have any experience with this sort of lightbulb, and would it be worth replacing my architect's lamp's incandescent bulb with the fluorescent one? Margaret FitzWilliam =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 17:23:06 -0400 From: "Sally Burnell" Subject: Re: [scribes]: Gouche Proportions This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C14CF9.3B05FB60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The best analogy I can give as to gouache consistency is that of heavy = cream. If you don't know what that feels like, the best way to learn is = to go to the store and buy some heavy cream and play with it until you = develop what I call "muscle memory" for what that feels like.=20 Don't use tap water, BTW. I'd advise using distilled water, since tap = water contains various additives and chemicals that can affect your = paint.=20 Hope that helps a bit! Best of luck! ~Saradwen Midrealm - ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C14CF9.3B05FB60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The best analogy I can give as to = gouache=20 consistency is that of heavy cream. If you don't know what that feels = like, the=20 best way to learn is to go to the store and buy some heavy cream and = play with=20 it until you develop what I call "muscle memory" for what that feels = like.=20
 
Don't use tap water, BTW. I'd advise = using=20 distilled water, since tap water contains various additives and = chemicals that=20 can affect your paint.
 
Hope that helps a bit! Best of = luck!
 
~Saradwen
  = Midrealm
- ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C14CF9.3B05FB60-- =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 17:15:29 -0500 From: "Margareta vanden Velde" Subject: Re: [scribes]: Gouche Proportions This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C14CF8.2A79A4A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If you put too much water in it and the colour is too thin, just let it = sit for a bit, the colour will evaporate and you will have nothing but = gouache left again. It's almost impossible to waste! =20 Margareta vanden Velde Barony of Skraeling Althing, Ealdormere ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Nicholas Mercier=20 To: scribes@castle.org=20 Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 6:16 PM Subject: [scribes]: Gouche Proportions So I bit the bullet and bought my Windsor Newton Starter set. Only to = find that they have no suggestions at all on the insert as to = proportions of water to gouche. Rather then waste a drop and have a = head ache I figured I could ask here. It looks way to thick to use = straight from the tube, I'm assuming it is cut with water, about how = much is recommended? Hate to be a bother, I'm just new to this paint stuff. :) Nikolia East Kingdom - ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C14CF8.2A79A4A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
If you put too much water in it and the = colour is=20 too thin, just let it sit for a bit, the colour will evaporate and you = will have=20 nothing but gouache left again.  It's almost impossible to = waste! =20
 
Margareta vanden Velde
Barony of Skraeling Althing,=20 Ealdormere
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Nicholas=20 Mercier
Sent: Thursday, October 04, = 2001 6:16=20 PM
Subject: [scribes]: Gouche=20 Proportions

So I bit the bullet and bought my = Windsor Newton=20 Starter set.  Only to find that they have no suggestions at all = on the=20 insert as to proportions of water to gouche.  Rather then waste a = drop=20 and have a head ache I figured I could ask here.  It looks way to = thick=20 to use straight from the tube, I'm assuming it is cut with water, = about how=20 much is recommended?
 
Hate to be a bother, I'm just new to = this paint=20 stuff. :)
 
Nikolia
East=20 Kingdom
- ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C14CF8.2A79A4A0-- =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 15:25:05 -0700 From: Mark Miller Subject: RE: [scribes]: Just a note This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. - ------_=_NextPart_001_01C14D23.6AD124D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Except that you do not send the reply to the whole list, which some may want to see the answers. Want to reply to the whole list, hit reply to all, the delete the address of just the originator. Ryan of Rickford Al-Sahid, Caid - -----Original Message----- From: Nicholas Mercier [mailto:mercie96@potsdam.edu] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 6:40 PM To: scribes@castle.org Subject: [scribes]: Just a note When posting if you hit reply all you send two copies, one to the person and one the list in effect giving the orginonal writer two copies. Instead if you just hit reply you can avoid this problem. Nikolia - ------_=_NextPart_001_01C14D23.6AD124D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
Except that you do not send the reply to the whole list, which some may want to see the answers.  Want to reply to the whole list, hit reply to all, the delete the address of just the originator.
 
Ryan of Rickford
Al-Sahid, Caid
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From: Nicholas Mercier [mailto:mercie96@potsdam.edu]
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 6:40 PM
To: scribes@castle.org
Subject: [scribes]: Just a note

When posting if you hit reply all you send two copies, one to the person and one the list in effect giving the orginonal writer two copies.  Instead if you just hit reply you can avoid this problem.
 
Nikolia
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