From: owner-scribes@castle.org (scribes digest) To: scribes-digest@castle.org Subject: scribes digest V7 #15 Reply-To: Sender: owner-scribes@castle.org Errors-To: owner-scribes@castle.org Precedence: bulk scribes digest Monday, October 1 2001 Volume 07 : Number 015 ======================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with unsubscribe scribes-digets in the body of the message. Leave the subject line blank. Do not include any additional text. [scribes]: Hello all ye gentles. Re: [scribes]: Hello all ye gentles. [scribes]: A&S [scribes]: a little latin help, por favor? [scribes]: Another quick question Re: [scribes]: a little latin help, por favor? Re: [scribes]: a little latin help, por favor? Re: [scribes]: a little latin help, por favor? [scribes]: date wierdnesses [scribes]: Monthly Administrivia Mailing [scribes]: Monthly Administrivia Mailing Re: [scribes]: Hello all ye gentles. Re: [scribes]: Another quick question [scribes]: cheap paints [was]Re: Hello all ye gentles. Re: [scribes]: a little latin help, por favor? Re: [scribes]: cheap paints [was]Re: Hello all ye gentles. Re: [scribes]: cheap paints [was]Re: Hello all ye gentles. Re: [scribes]: parchment treatment RE: [scribes]: Another quick question [scribes]: Arabic line spacing [scribes]: (no subject) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 10:49:44 -0700 From: "Nicholas Mercier" Subject: [scribes]: Hello all ye gentles. This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C1499D.9DBE44B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was recently cruise many of your assorted sites and have discovered = what my works are complete pathetic to practically everyone else. So I = would like to say I am in awe of all your work and amazed by each = individuals talent, especially Master Aetheric Lindberende. (As a side = note I'm going to track you down at some Dragon Dormant event and pick = your brain for a good long time, if you don't mind that is.) Another = thing I realized is I needed to start working more with paints, I was = looking to get into watercolors and was wondering if there were any = relatively inexpensive brands you could recomend? I am a poor college = student with limited funds, but I definately want to start to make the = switch. I had given thought to trying the paints I use for modeling, = but I didn't think those would work too well. Any suggestions anyone = may have would be wonderfully welcome and I look forward to reading your = response. Sincerely yours, Nikolia know as Baite Shire of the Northern Outpost, East Kingdom mercie96@potsdam.edu - ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C1499D.9DBE44B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I was recently cruise many of your = assorted sites=20 and have discovered what my works are complete pathetic to practically = everyone=20 else.  So I would like to say I am in awe of all your work and = amazed by=20 each individuals talent, especially Master=20 Aetheric Lindberende. (As a side note I'm going to track you down at = some Dragon=20 Dormant event and pick your brain for a good long time, if you don't = mind that=20 is.)  Another thing I realized is I needed to start working more = with=20 paints, I was looking to get into watercolors and was wondering if there = were=20 any relatively inexpensive brands you could recomend?  I am a poor = college=20 student with limited funds, but I definately want to start to make the=20 switch.  I had given thought to trying the paints I use for = modeling, but I=20 didn't think those would work too well.  Any suggestions anyone may = have=20 would be wonderfully welcome and I look forward to reading your=20 response.
 
Sincerely yours,
 
Nikolia know as Baite
Shire of the Northern Outpost, East=20 Kingdom
mercie96@potsdam.edu
- ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C1499D.9DBE44B0-- =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 10:11:51 -0500 From: "Corinna Taylor/Al Frank" Subject: Re: [scribes]: Hello all ye gentles. This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C14998.52E3C500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Greetings Nikolia, I suggest that instead of buying the cheaper paints you limit your = palette and buy the very best. You'll get better results. My personal = preference is for Winsor & Newton Artists Watercolours (not Cotman), or = Gouache. If, at this point, your illumination is limited to formal = patterns and foliage, you can get by with white and the primaries. I'm = sure you'll get lots of advice as to which ones are most authentically = period. If you're using watercolours rather than gouache, one of the = most useful colours is "Neutral Tint", a vaguely purplish dark gray that = will darken any colour - even yellow! - without causing strange changes. = Watch out for colours that say "hue" e.g. cobalt blue hue. This means = that it's a cheaper or less toxic imitation that looks exactly like = cobalt blue when straight from the tube, but it won't necessarily behave = like it in mixtures. =20 Corinna Midrealm =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Nicholas Mercier=20 To: scribes@castle.org=20 Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 12:49 PM Subject: [scribes]: Hello all ye gentles. I was recently cruise many of your assorted sites and have discovered = what my works are complete pathetic to practically everyone else. So I = would like to say I am in awe of all your work and amazed by each = individuals talent, especially Master Aetheric Lindberende. (As a side = note I'm going to track you down at some Dragon Dormant event and pick = your brain for a good long time, if you don't mind that is.) Another = thing I realized is I needed to start working more with paints, I was = looking to get into watercolors and was wondering if there were any = relatively inexpensive brands you could recomend? I am a poor college = student with limited funds, but I definately want to start to make the = switch. I had given thought to trying the paints I use for modeling, = but I didn't think those would work too well. Any suggestions anyone = may have would be wonderfully welcome and I look forward to reading your = response. Sincerely yours, Nikolia know as Baite Shire of the Northern Outpost, East Kingdom mercie96@potsdam.edu - ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C14998.52E3C500 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Greetings Nikolia,
 
I suggest that instead of buying the = cheaper paints=20 you limit your palette and buy the very best.  You'll get better=20 results.  My personal preference is for Winsor & Newton Artists = Watercolours (not Cotman), or Gouache.  If, at this point, your=20 illumination is limited to formal patterns and foliage, you can get = by with=20 white and the primaries.  I'm sure you'll get lots of advice as to = which=20 ones are most authentically period.  If you're = using watercolours=20 rather than gouache, one of the most useful colours is "Neutral Tint", a = vaguely=20 purplish dark gray that will darken any colour - even yellow! - = without=20 causing strange changes.  Watch out for colours that say "hue" e.g. = cobalt=20 blue hue. This means that it's a cheaper or less toxic imitation = that looks=20 exactly like cobalt blue when straight from the tube, but it won't = necessarily=20 behave like it in mixtures. 
 
Corinna
Midrealm
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Nicholas=20 Mercier
Sent: Sunday, September 30, = 2001 12:49=20 PM
Subject: [scribes]: Hello all = ye=20 gentles.

I was recently cruise many of your = assorted sites=20 and have discovered what my works are complete pathetic to practically = everyone else.  So I would like to say I am in awe of all your = work and=20 amazed by each individuals talent, especially Master Aetheric Lindberende. (As a side note I'm going to = track you=20 down at some Dragon Dormant event and pick your brain for a good long = time, if=20 you don't mind that is.)  Another thing I realized is I needed to = start=20 working more with paints, I was looking to get into watercolors and = was=20 wondering if there were any relatively inexpensive brands you could=20 recomend?  I am a poor college student with limited funds, but I=20 definately want to start to make the switch.  I had given thought = to=20 trying the paints I use for modeling, but I didn't think those would = work too=20 well.  Any suggestions anyone may have would be wonderfully = welcome and I=20 look forward to reading your response.
 
Sincerely yours,
 
Nikolia know as Baite
Shire of the Northern Outpost, East=20 Kingdom
mercie96@potsdam.edu
- ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C14998.52E3C500-- =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 18:09:23 -0600 From: anorathepain@juno.com Subject: [scribes]: A&S Hello all Just wanted to drop you all a note of thanks for your help to prepare me for my first A&S competition. I entered a Italian scroll with a love song written in Italian. I scored very well and won the populace choice. I have two weeks to clean up my documentation and prepare for our kingdom A&S. I received several suggestions to enter it into the kingdom A&S, I'm going to do it. Thank you all Anora de Maledisant ~Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus~ ~Never Tickle Sleeping Dragons~ ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1904 00:45:40 -0600 From: Catie Helm-Clark Subject: [scribes]: a little latin help, por favor? My apprentice and I are doing a little book, which will be a "period version" of a relatively well-known childrens' book. It will be in Latin since it was a common language amongst educated people in period, with vellum pages and period pigments and period ink and a period hand, basically in the style of the Mary of Burgundy Hours. And we're going to bind it in the period manner, with a cover made using my set of medieval leather tools, etc etc. Yes, we're sick puppies, and we're proud... ;-) But it's been 20 years since my last Latin class, and I've realized, as I've been working on the translation, that I've forgotten a lot more than I thought ( a bit of a surprise since my retaining french and german is quite good - but on the other hand, I actually have to use them on occassion for work, unlike my Latin) So I've done a few trial passages and I thought, if folks are feeling a little unoccupied, that maybe some of the folks I know who do Latin better than I (hi, Charles, Graidhne, Dorothea... ;-) might glance at these for any blatantly obvious grammar goofs. I've been really struggling with constructing passives, and am a little worried that I've foobed badly in that regard... It doesn't help that I can't locate my favorite Latin Grammar book from college. I'm also wondering if I'm doing my imperitives correctly - I have this sinking feeling that I'm doing something wrong (it's correct for french and german, but I can't remember if it's the same for Latin) Anyway, here are my trial translations. I went for meaning instead of literal translations in a handfull of places where I had a hard time. Feles in Petaso. Sol fulgebat ne. Tempestas nimia erat ludere. Igitur domi sedebamus per illum diem totum frigidum frigidum nimbosum. Cum Sallia illic sedebam. Illic duo nostrum sedebamus et dicebam, quam volo uti aliquid faciamus. Tempestas nimia erat prodere. Frigus nimium erat pilam ludere. Igitur domi sedebamus quomodocumque ne aliquid faciamus. Igitur erat unica res faceremus: sedere sedere sedere sedere. Et ne volebamus, non nequaquam. Et ibi aliqua peturbabat. Quam illa perturbatrix perturbabumur nobis! Visebamus! Et ibi videbamus in matta ostii ingredibat! Visebamus eum! Feles in petaso! Et dicebat nobis, quor ibi sic seditus? my worry constructions right now are passives, infinitives and infinitive-derived imperitives. Enjoy, and many thanks in advance ttfn, Therasia =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 23:28:40 -0700 From: "Nicholas Mercier" Subject: [scribes]: Another quick question This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C14A07.A30E62A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gouche, can you buy it over the counter or do you purchase the white and = the watercolors and make it yourself? Please remember I am rather = limited in skill so the simpler the better. =20 Also thank you all for your helpful responses.=20 Nikolia known as Baite, Shire of the Northern Outpost, East Kingdom - ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C14A07.A30E62A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Gouche, can you buy it over the counter = or do you=20 purchase the white and the watercolors and make it yourself?  = Please=20 remember I am rather limited in skill so the simpler the better. =20
 
Also thank you all for your helpful = responses.=20
 
Nikolia known as Baite,
Shire of the Northern Outpost, East=20 Kingdom
- ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C14A07.A30E62A0-- =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 21:09:48 -0700 From: Karen Williams Subject: Re: [scribes]: a little latin help, por favor? Catie Helm-Clark wrote: > Feles in Petaso. I think there's a commercial version of this available. Branwen =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 21:33:26 -0700 From: Karen Williams Subject: Re: [scribes]: a little latin help, por favor? Karen Williams wrote: > > Catie Helm-Clark wrote: > > > Feles in Petaso. > > I think there's a commercial version of this available. In fact, checking Amazon.com finds: Cattus Petasatus : The Cat in the Hat in Latin by Seuss, Dr Seuss, Jennifer Morrish Tunberg (Translator), Terence Tunberg Branwen =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1904 03:37:31 -0600 From: Catie Helm-Clark Subject: Re: [scribes]: a little latin help, por favor? > > I think there's a commercial version of this available. > > In fact, checking Amazon.com finds: > Cattus Petasatus : The Cat in the Hat in Latin > by Seuss, Dr Seuss, Jennifer Morrish Tunberg (Translator), Terence > Tunberg > > Branwen Branwen, you're a saint!!! (well, not technically, but you know what I mean...) Hot Puppies!!!!!! now I can go back to not worrying about doing english to latin (latin to english is so much easier) ttfn, Therasia =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 00:06:37 -0600 From: Catie Helm-Clark Subject: [scribes]: date wierdnesses My apologies to everyone, espcially those whose email programs sort by date - every now and then, my computer decides to dump its date setting (it's a bug dealing with the date and time server at Apple - on of the few bugs left in Mac OS). So when you find those posts from me with the wierd dates (31 Dec 69, if I'm not mistaken), please accept my apologies on the behalf of my computer. It really is a good machine most of the time. ttfn, Therasia =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 00:00:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Lee Damon Subject: [scribes]: Monthly Administrivia Mailing This is the monthly mailing of the administrivia information for the scribes-digest mailing list. [Last updated on: Fri Jan 23 21:27:07 PST 1998] This is the Digest of the scribes mailing list. It is open for discussion of scribal arts including illumination, calligraphy, paper making, etc. The posting address for scribes (including the digest) is "scribes@castle.org". To unsubscribe, send email to "majordomo@castle.org" with "unsubscribe scribes-digest" in the body of the message. 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Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 08:35:17 -0300 From: "Rick Gaigneur" Subject: Re: [scribes]: Hello all ye gentles. Greetings all! Nikolia wrote: > So I would like to say I am in awe of all your work and amazed by each individuals talent, > especially Master Aetheric Lindberende. (As a side note I'm going to track you down at some Dragon > Dormant event and pick your brain for a good long time, if you don't mind that is.) Why, thank you for the very kind praise. I would be more than happy to sit down with you should our paths cross. I don't know what your definition of "a good long time" is, but I can drone on about this stuff for hours, given half a chance. (Just ask Griet...). I turn up pretty frequently throughout the northeast, mostly in Ruantallan, Havre des Glaces, Malagentia, and occassionally other places, like Dragon Dormant and Stonemarche. Feel free to track me down... Aetheric Master Ętheric Lindeberende, Shire of Lyndhaven Deputy Kingdom Seneschal, Northern Shores Region, East Kingdom www.northernshores.org or www.ricks-place.ca gaigneur@fundy.net =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 08:22:17 EDT From: SWRDBABE@aol.com Subject: Re: [scribes]: Another quick question I usually purchase Reeves, a brand from the same company as Windsor Newton. They sell a variety of colors in sets including a nice selection of browns, reds, blues and greens they also have a very nice flesh tone that I use for miniatures. They are half the price of WN which is good for a limited budget like mine. They also come in large packs so I buy the 24 pack and have everything I need and if it isn't there then mixing the colors is not a problem at all. Hope this helps. Daniela =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 12:12:22 EDT From: RenScribe@aol.com Subject: [scribes]: cheap paints [was]Re: Hello all ye gentles. Greetings Nikolia and all While I agree that you get more for your money and better quality with Windsor & Newton paints, for some scribes they are priced right out of their budget. Look for sales (Michael's and Jo-Ann etc often run some really good ones 40 - 50% off regular price). Buy one or two tubes at a time and build up a nice set instead of buying a preboxed set and ending up with colors that you may never even use. Another option is a preboxed set of 12 tubes of Reeves Gouache. It costs about $7 at Michael's but you can often get it on sale or with a coupon for under $5. The palette is varied enough that you could do just about any style of illumination straight out of the tubes without having to mix colors. The paints have pretty good coverage with the exception of the white which I find to be a little weak for whitework. The ultramarine is the closest in color to real lapis ultramarine that I've found in a tube gouache. I bought a set for my daughter last year for Christmas and am pleased with them. This is one of the few cases where I felt I got more quality than the price led me to believe :-) Hope this helps Eibhlin ni Chaoimh AEthelmearc =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 11:36:27 -0500 (EST) From: john j cash Subject: Re: [scribes]: a little latin help, por favor? Dear folks, > > I think there's a commercial version of this available. > > In fact, checking Amazon.com finds: > Cattus Petasatus : The Cat in the Hat in Latin > by Seuss, Dr Seuss, Jennifer Morrish Tunberg (Translator), Terence > Tunberg And by the same team, "Quomodo Invidiosulus nomine GRINCHUS Christi natalem Abrogaverit" (Latin version of How the Grinch Stole Christmas) - -- johannes v.n. "To the Taliban from the American people: Give us Bin Laden, or we will take all of your women and send them to college!" =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 12:24:45 -0500 From: "Corinna Taylor/Al Frank" Subject: Re: [scribes]: cheap paints [was]Re: Hello all ye gentles. Greetings Nikolia, Eibhlin et al, There is one more option for paint bargains. Several companies have sample sets of three to six basic colours by mail order with coupons from The Artists Magazine or American Artist. Da Vinci and Holbein both do this. They're both artist's quality, less expensive than W&N. They're not opaque enough for my taste, but Holbein tends to be a little more brilliant as a result (less whiting). Corinna =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 13:46:27 EDT From: SWRDBABE@aol.com Subject: Re: [scribes]: cheap paints [was]Re: Hello all ye gentles. I have to agree with Eibhlin on Reeves paints. I have purchased the Reeves Gouache and have found it to work our very well. I actually the 18 color set that has a nice range of colors including a fairly decent flesh tone. The white isn't the greatest but if you only buy a tube of Windsor Newton white and then this pack you should be pretty well set off. I found out Windsor Newton is actually the makers of Reeves it's just not their top of the line. If you would like to see some of the colors in action go to my web page and look under the scribal works. I'm actually planning on trying the gouache in some fantasy pieces. Back to the Scribal Board, Daniela Schwartzhaupt Barony of Bright Hills Kingdom of Atlantia http://home.talkcity.com/EaselSt/daniela1971/index.html =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 11:48:43 -0700 From: Carolyn_Richardson@prosystemfx.com Subject: Re: [scribes]: parchment treatment Ranthulfr, do you think that "whiting" would work as well as chalk for a pounce? It's like extremely fine chalk, although I'm not sure if it's chemically different. I've got a ton of it at home and wouldn't mind experimenting with it a bit. Tetchubah Cry "Bother" and let loose the Poohs of War... =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 20:55:08 -0700 From: "Ken Stoner" Subject: RE: [scribes]: Another quick question This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------InterScan_NT_MIME_Boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C14A2C.DC7365F2" - ------_=_NextPart_001_01C14A2C.DC7365F2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Most better art stores sell Winsor Newton "over the counter" as you say. If you do not have access to a "Better Art Store" you can probably make do with water color, just use it thick, not watered down like for water color. =20 Gouache is a real simple paint to use. The basic technique is just like in that movie "Lay-on... Lay-off" Stroke it on in one direction, then even it out with strokes in the perpendicular direction. That will get you started. :-) - -----Original Message----- From: Nicholas Mercier [mailto:mercie96@potsdam.edu] Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 11:29 PM To: scribes@castle.org Subject: [scribes]: Another quick question Gouche, can you buy it over the counter or do you purchase the white and the watercolors and make it yourself? Please remember I am rather limited in skill so the simpler the better. =20 =20 Also thank you all for your helpful responses.=20 =20 Nikolia known as Baite, Shire of the Northern Outpost, East Kingdom - ------_=_NextPart_001_01C14A2C.DC7365F2 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Most=20 better art stores sell Winsor Newton "over the counter" as you say.=20
If you=20 do not have access to a "Better Art Store" you can probably make do with = water=20 color, just use it thick, not watered down like for water=20 color.
 
Gouache is a real simple paint to use. The basic technique is = just like=20 in that movie "Lay-on... Lay-off"
Stroke=20 it on in one direction, then even it out with strokes in the = perpendicular=20 direction. That will get you started. :-)
-----Original Message-----
From: Nicholas Mercier=20 [mailto:mercie96@potsdam.edu]
Sent: Sunday, September 30, = 2001 11:29=20 PM
To: scribes@castle.org
Subject: [scribes]: = Another=20 quick question

Gouche, can you buy it over the = counter or do you=20 purchase the white and the watercolors and make it yourself?  = Please=20 remember I am rather limited in skill so the simpler the better.  =
 
Also thank you all for your helpful = responses.=20
 
Nikolia known as Baite,
Shire of the Northern Outpost, East=20 Kingdom
- ------_=_NextPart_001_01C14A2C.DC7365F2-- - --------------InterScan_NT_MIME_Boundary-- =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 15:00:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Hrefna in heppna Subject: [scribes]: Arabic line spacing What was line spacing like on arabic documents from period? Hrefna __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 20:30:21 EDT From: DonnelShaw@aol.com Subject: [scribes]: (no subject) - --part1_64.1407fa98.28ea649d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Another option is a preboxed set of 12 tubes of Reeves Gouache. It costs=20 about $7 at Michael's but you can often get it on sale or with a coupon for=20 under $5. The palette is varied enough that you could do just about any styl= e=20 of illumination straight out of the tubes without having to mix colors. The=20 paints have pretty good coverage with the exception of the white which I fin= d=20 to be a little weak for whitework. The ultramarine is the closest in color t= o=20 real lapis ultramarine that I've found in a tube gouache. I bought a set for= =20 my daughter last year for Christmas and am pleased with them. This is one of= =20 the few cases where I felt I got more quality than the price led me to=20 believe=A0 :-) I started with Reves to see if I really wanted to paint. Then I started=20 adding in W&N. I also discoved that Reves could be used with children. There= =20 is no lead in it. This made my child very happy and she now uses that set.=20 She paints along side me many a day. She is only 8 and has been doing this=20 since 6. She has been given permission to paint Kingdome Charters. Can you=20 say proud Mama?=20 Donnel - --part1_64.1407fa98.28ea649d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Another option is a prebo= xed set of 12 tubes of Reeves Gouache. It costs=20
about $7 at Michael's but you can often get it on sale or with a coupon=20= for=20
under $5. The palette is varied enough that you could do just about any=20= style=20
of illumination straight out of the tubes without having to mix colors.=20= The=20
paints have pretty good coverage with the exception of the white which I= find=20
to be a little weak for whitework. The ultramarine is the closest in col= or to=20
real lapis ultramarine that I've found in a tube gouache. I bought a set= for=20
my daughter last year for Christmas and am pleased with them. This is on= e of=20
the few cases where I felt I got more quality than the price led me to=20
believe=A0 :-)

I started with Reves to see if I really wanted to paint. Then I started=20= adding in W&N. I also discoved that Reves could be used with children. T= here is no lead in it. This made my child very happy and she now uses that s= et. She paints along side me many a day. She is only 8 and has been doing th= is since 6. She has been given permission to paint Kingdome Charters.  = Can you say proud Mama?=20
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