From: owner-scribes@castle.org (scribes digest) To: scribes-digest@castle.org Subject: scribes digest V6 #22 Reply-To: Sender: owner-scribes@castle.org Errors-To: owner-scribes@castle.org Precedence: bulk scribes digest Wednesday, August 29 2001 Volume 06 : Number 022 ======================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with unsubscribe scribes-digets in the body of the message. Leave the subject line blank. Do not include any additional text. [scribes]: comments Re: [scribes]: comments [scribes]: comments [scribes]: Introduction Fw: [scribes]: Introduction Re: [scribes]: Introduction Re: [scribes]: comments [scribes]: Fw: [Shire X] Fwd: WEBSIT[ING]: Cartographers Re: [scribes]: Humorous Scrolls [scribes]: scrolls Re: [scribes]: scrolls - Muppet Show Clarification & Monetary Value [scribes]: alive and well RE: [scribes]: scrolls Re: [scribes]: re:scrolls Re: [scribes]: comments Re: Fw: [scribes]: Introduction ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 13:27:49 -0400 From: Ron Houston Subject: [scribes]: comments All, I have some comments about being a scribe in the SCA. First off, I know that some monarchs appreciate us more than others, and the same goes for the populous. But one thing that strikes me about being a scribe, as apposed to other art forms is that you give everything away. We create scrolls for awards to be given away at court if we are lucky, usually its just given to the person long after the award is given. Other artisan get to keep there work. If you make garb you can show it off while you wear it, the same goes for armor or leather work.. I believe the only people who have it worse are the cooks and brewers, where we actually devourer their work. yes we all have our portfolios with copies of what we have done, but do they do the original any justice. In other art forms, the artist is free to make whatever they wish. As scribes however we are confined to what we are assigned more or less. Where the armorer can make a new 12 gauge stainless helm with an aventail for himself if he wants we cannot make a knighting scroll with gold leaf on vellum for ourselves if we so desired.. Just some thoughts to go along with not being appreciated. It is very giving of ourselves to work on a scroll for 40 or 50 hours and then just give it away.. If no one else appreciates what we do for the society, at least I know other scribes know what goes into making a scroll. So from one scribe to all the others out there, Thank you. Gilbert Courdelion Atlantia =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 10:57:20 -0700 From: "Richard" Subject: Re: [scribes]: comments I am very new to this list and have been "lurking" for a little while now. I am a professional calligrapher and would like to know how one becomes a Scribe for the SCA. Thanks! =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 14:21:49 EDT From: SWRDBABE@aol.com Subject: [scribes]: comments Unfortunately I can understand the disapointment in not seeing a scroll you worked presented in court. I did 7 for Pennsic court and only three of them were given. As much as I may have been disappointed, the scrolls that were recieved were loved A LOT and that made all the difference in the world. =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 16:43:29 -0500 From: "Sam Guss" Subject: [scribes]: Introduction Greetings, I am an aspiring apprentice into the art of caligraphy and cartography. I have recently rejoined the SCA and my interests include not only caligraphy and cartography but brewing and heavy fighting as well. I look forward to learning a lot from this list. One of the reasons I joined this list was not only to learn more about the Scribal arts but I am getting ready to start an A&S project involving cartography and hoping to learn from others who have done this or perhaps even find a mentor. Samuel Barony of Iron Mountain, Meridies (Birmingham, Al.) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 18:20:48 -0500 From: "ELIZABETH DUPUY" Subject: Fw: [scribes]: Introduction This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C12FEE.29514B40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable - ----- Original Message -----=20 From: ELIZABETH DUPUY=20 To: Sam Guss=20 Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 6:06 PM Subject: Re: [scribes]: Introduction Welcome Samuel! I, too, am new to the list (actually, signed up a month or so ago, but = failed to introduce myself) and hail from Meridies. I am a member the shire Glaedenfeld, based in Nashville TN. My interests are illumination, calligraphy, embroidery, dancing - and = running after my 2 1/2 year old son. If you don't spot me painting = scrolls, I'm probably in a kitchen or taking care of children somewhere. Elspeth la Faire, AoA, CMC ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Sam Guss=20 To: scribes@castle.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 4:43 PM Subject: [scribes]: Introduction Greetings, I am an aspiring apprentice into the art of caligraphy and = cartography. I=20 have recently rejoined the SCA and my interests include not only = caligraphy=20 and cartography but brewing and heavy fighting as well. I look forward = to=20 learning a lot from this list. One of the reasons I joined this list was not only to learn more about = the=20 Scribal arts but I am getting ready to start an A&S project involving=20 cartography and hoping to learn from others who have done this or = perhaps=20 even find a mentor. 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Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 6:06 PM
Subject: Re: [scribes]: Introduction

Welcome = Samuel!
I, too, am new to the = list=20 (actually, signed up a month or so ago, but failed to introduce myself) = and hail=20 from Meridies.
I am a member the shire = Glaedenfeld, based in Nashville TN.
My interests are = illumination,=20 calligraphy, embroidery, dancing - and running after my 2 1/2 year old=20 son.   If you don't spot me painting scrolls, I'm probably in = a=20 kitchen or taking care of children somewhere.
Elspeth la Faire, AoA,=20 CMC
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Sam=20 Guss
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 = 4:43=20 PM
Subject: [scribes]: = Introduction

Greetings,

I am an aspiring apprentice into the = art of=20 caligraphy and cartography. I
have recently rejoined the SCA and = my=20 interests include not only caligraphy
and cartography but brewing = and=20 heavy fighting as well. I look forward to
learning a lot from this = list.

One of the reasons I joined this list was not only to = learn more=20 about the
Scribal arts but I am getting ready to start an A&S = project=20 involving
cartography and hoping to learn from others who have = done this=20 or perhaps
even find a mentor.

Samuel
Barony of Iron = Mountain,=20 Meridies
(Birmingham,=20 = Al.)

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- ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C12FEE.29514B40-- =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 20:07:13 -0400 From: Randy Asplund Subject: Re: [scribes]: Introduction Dear Samuel, I picked up a really nice little book on the 13th c. Hereford World Map called MAPPA MUNDI. P.D.A. Harvey, University of Toronto Press ISBN0-8020-7945-8 It's a really nice looking book with lots of detail shots of the Hereford map and several good pictures of other medieval maps. I haven't had a chance to actually read it yet, but it looks good. 58 pages in paper. Thin for the price, but unique enough to be worth getting. RanthulfR AsparlundR, OL Sam Guss wrote: > > Greetings, > > I am an aspiring apprentice into the art of caligraphy and cartography. I > have recently rejoined the SCA and my interests include not only caligraphy > and cartography but brewing and heavy fighting as well. I look forward to > learning a lot from this list. > > One of the reasons I joined this list was not only to learn more about the > Scribal arts but I am getting ready to start an A&S project involving > cartography and hoping to learn from others who have done this or perhaps > even find a mentor. > > Samuel > Barony of Iron Mountain, Meridies > (Birmingham, Al.) > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > =================================================================== > To unsubscribe from this list, send email to > with a blank Subject: line and > unsubscribe scribes > in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in > the body. - -- VISIT RandyAsplund.com To see a Universe of art ranging from Magic: The Gathering to Star Trek and Medieval Manuscripts Randy Asplund (734) 663-0954 Science Fiction and Fantasy Illustration 2101 S. Circle Dr., Ann Arbor, MI. 48103 =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 21:08:51 -0500 From: "Helen Schultz" Subject: Re: [scribes]: comments Welcome, Richard. Where do you live?? You can first go to http://www.sca.org to find the geographic area nearest you, and then search further down until you find a local group. Once you have done this, you can introduce yourself to that local group and to the Kingdom Signet of the particular kingdom your group is a part of (sorry for ending the sentence with a preposition, but I couldn't think of another way to say that.) We try to emulate Medieval techniques used in manuscripts for our scribal works, like Books of Hours, Bibles, Psalters, etc. Some of us really like to do the deep research, and others the look. Good luck. Meisterin Katarina Helene von Schoenborn, OL Shire of Narrental (Peru, Indiana) Middle Kingdom http://www.netusa1.net/~meistern (which will soon be changing to http://ww1.comteck.com/~meisterin -- only the main page is up at the moment at this new site) - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard" > I am very new to this list and have been "lurking" for a little while now. > I am a professional calligrapher and would like to know how one becomes a > Scribe for the SCA. > > Thanks! > =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 23:11:13 -0700 From: "Teresa McCartney" Subject: [scribes]: Fw: [Shire X] Fwd: WEBSIT[ING]: Cartographers Hmmm...deleted the original post, but wasn't someone just looking for mapmaking resources? Someone sent me this link to a cool website with many period map photos/monographs a while back. > http://www.henry-davis.com/MAPS/EMwebpages/EML.html HTH :) Teresa le Marchant West, Mists, Crosston =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 12:07:12 +0200 From: "Joanna Zelazko" Subject: Re: [scribes]: Humorous Scrolls

Greetings from Draconia Principality,

(back after my holidays and = reading piles of scribes' mail)

Let me also comment upon the subject = (and my intentions are not to offend anyone):
Eibhlin wrote: "(...) a certain amount of medievalism needs to be mainta= ined."

I fully agree with this statement. I would even ad= d - a great amount of medievalism, if you really want to recreate or re-ena= ct medieval culture. Because if you just want to play "knights and lad= ies" on Sunday, in your plastic armour and a dress with a zipper, make= your scrolls with the modern cartoon characters, using collage technique, = why not? These are extremes, I know, but if we start doing scrolls around t= he Tomb Raider theme just because the recipient likes this game, where will= it end? It will no longer be SCA scribes, but a modern artists group, mixi= ng different styles and techniques.

This is not the case of having or= not humorous scrolls. It is the idea of preparing the medieval type humoro= us scrolls, as somebody from this list wisely stated before, because we wan= t to play a game called "Middle Ages Recreation". The choice here= is between putting on a scroll a funny scene with a jester playing tricks = with his king or a Muppet Show characters. Is the latter period? Not, in an= y way. Do we want to be period? I say, "yes". Maybe someone else = says "not to such an extend". In that case Muppet Show scroll is = okay, but on the other hand why do we call ourselves 'medieval scribes' whe= n we are 'calligraphers and illuminators combining different themes using o= ne specific way of presenting our art (a form of a scroll)'? I found on thi= s list many wonderful people, who do amazing things like making scroll from= the very beginning, from keeping rabbit to make vellum and geese to have f= eathers to write with. On the other hand, there are people who apparently p= erceive it differently.

By the way, I think that all mythical creatu= res are period, and the idea of making a scroll with mermaids is wonderful!= !! Show it to us when you finish, Theophania.

I put everything very s= traight forward, hope everyone is still going to talk with me :-))

Gr= eetings to all scribes, orthodox and the others,

Lady Finnarwen of Fo= rmendor

Court Chronicler, Principality of Draconia

(Joanna Zela= zko, Warsaw, Poland)

= =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 11:29:01 +0000 From: "Russell Husted" Subject: [scribes]: scrolls Two short stories: The last big scroll I did was given out at coronation by the King and Queen while they were stepping down. Their comment to me afterwords was all I really needed to hear after 100 hour work. Thank you, It means a lot to us to be able to give away something that shows how truely thankful we are to her for her work. The second one happened only this last weekend. A fighter was asking another scribe for a charter to be made for his group. He started by saying that it was only 250 to 300 words long, that he wanted illumination on several sides, on real vellum, 14th century... He asked for mundane pricing, so she(the other scribe) began to work it out. His eyes got bigger and bigger as the price added up to more and more digits in size. There is now another stick-jock in the world who will treat a simple scroll like it was handed to him by a true King or Queen, not just person playing a part. your servant, mahee _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 08:32:34 EDT From: KMcWhyte@aol.com Subject: Re: [scribes]: scrolls - Muppet Show Clarification & Monetary Value Greetings again... I just wanted to clarify that the Muppet Show scroll did *not* have the actual Muppet Show characters on it. The illumination was very medieval (Celtic border in red and black, of the upside-down 'U' variety, with celtic animals, instead of Muppets...), as was the calligraphy. The wording was sung to the theme of the Muppet Show, not actually the words directly from it. ('It's time to set the thrones up.... etc etc, ending with 'This is what we call an A.o.A.!') As I said before, this was very clever and inventive to me, but most scribes in the East whom I know do not make an occupation of every scroll being humorous or silly. The occasional humorous scroll makes for a nice change of pace, and still entertains the crowd and pleases the recipient without retracting too much from the courts. In any case - following Mahee's point.... It's not just about stick-jocks, fighters, kings, queens, or what have you; it's about people's awareness of the money we spend out of pocket to make something look beautiful, and the fact that we then give this away freely, commissioned by the Signets. It's about time spent, which cannot be refunded, and giving that time to something we enjoy doing... Unfortunately, not everyone understands that real gold leaf is still real gold -- expensive, a pain to work with sometimes... It sounds like this person would have asked you to go get ground minerals for the paints too. At the very least, hopefully he will have a little more respect for the work scribes do in the near future, or go to a local print shop, if he wants something less than authentic for the price he may have been asking for. And even print shops and calligraphers aren't cheap. There's a guide out there on the suggested pricings of all forms of artwork, from calligraphy and illumination, and wedding invites, to corporate logo and web design. The book is a Guide to Ethics and Pricing, drawn up by the Graphic Artists' Guild.... (that's not the exact title, as I can't dig through the piles of books and clutter when I'm about to run out to work). This book can be found at Barnes & Nobles though, and was highly recommended to me when I was in college. In Service, Lady Kayleigh McWhyte, Mercenary Scribe (East) E.Frank, Long Island NY =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 07:33:18 -0500 From: "Holly Cochran" Subject: [scribes]: alive and well This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_00DF_01C1305C.DF2123A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable We made it to KC at 0600 today (Wednesday?), after a grueling 18 hour = drive with the semi-oscillating trailer of dementia. Yippee. No = injuries, nothing permanently broken, newfound respect for the awesome = towing power of the Jeep Cherokee Sport. New email, as a reminder, is msaidan@kc.rr.com Oh yeah, and anyone wanting to help unload the S.O.T.O.D. is welcome = after noon-oclock today. =20 Aidan - ------=_NextPart_000_00DF_01C1305C.DF2123A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
We made it to KC at 0600 today = (Wednesday?), after=20 a grueling 18 hour drive with the semi-oscillating trailer of dementia. = Yippee.=20 No injuries, nothing permanently broken, newfound respect for the = awesome towing=20 power of the Jeep Cherokee Sport.
 
New email, as a reminder, is msaidan@kc.rr.com
 
Oh yeah, and anyone wanting to help = unload the=20 S.O.T.O.D. is welcome after noon-oclock today. 
 
Aidan
- ------=_NextPart_000_00DF_01C1305C.DF2123A0-- =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 08:40:53 -0400 From: Ron Houston Subject: RE: [scribes]: scrolls Lets be careful on how you say stick jock. I am a stick jock, matter of fact I am a pretty good one. I fight with the Atlantian cavalry under the command of Duke Michael of Bedford, and my knight is Sir Keigan Broussard. I have to admit that there are not a lot of stick jocks that do callig but there are some. I was just released of my post as royal scribner. Anyways just letting everyone know that stick jocks are not just dumb brutes, but sometimes that is a good thing.. ;-) Gilbert Courdelion - -----Original Message----- From: owner-scribes@castle.org [mailto:owner-scribes@castle.org]On Behalf Of Russell Husted Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 7:29 AM To: scribes@castle.org Subject: [scribes]: scrolls Two short stories: The last big scroll I did was given out at coronation by the King and Queen while they were stepping down. Their comment to me afterwords was all I really needed to hear after 100 hour work. Thank you, It means a lot to us to be able to give away something that shows how truely thankful we are to her for her work. The second one happened only this last weekend. A fighter was asking another scribe for a charter to be made for his group. He started by saying that it was only 250 to 300 words long, that he wanted illumination on several sides, on real vellum, 14th century... He asked for mundane pricing, so she(the other scribe) began to work it out. His eyes got bigger and bigger as the price added up to more and more digits in size. There is now another stick-jock in the world who will treat a simple scroll like it was handed to him by a true King or Queen, not just person playing a part. your servant, mahee _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 09:00:51 EDT From: BRNDALSTON@aol.com Subject: Re: [scribes]: re:scrolls - --part1_c5.1585f1b9.28be4183_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 8/28/2001 12:11:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time, KMcWhyte@aol.com writes: > Most of the people I know only go to court when they think they know someone > they're familiar with may get an award. It's sad, in a sense, considering > that there's a lot of work put into the awards and we don't get to see them > all the time. A court pressed for time fairly recently took one of my best > works, held it in the air for all of a nanosecond, and then passed it into > the hands of a representative for the recipient (who was not there). > I know how you feel. That has happened to me a few times through the years. The worst thing I saw is a scroll I did laying on top of a shield with two rattan swords laying on top of it in the car just before the recipient went home. That made me mad enough that I went and said something to the guy. He had no idea that the scroll was handmade and that I had spent three weeks of my spare time working on it. He was very sorry that he treated it that way and appologized profusely. Still, it was very disappointing to see my work totally messed up like that by someone who didn't care at all about having a scroll. As to getting to see the scrolls, I like the events that have display tables for the award scrolls. The scrolls can be given in court and then placed on a table in the hall so people can look at them during the evening. This gives the populace a chance to see the work. I would like to see this happen more at events. I also think scribes should put not only their name on the back of the scroll, but also the approximate hours they spent working on it. I have been doing that for years and have had several people come up and thank me, and say they had no idea that the scrolls took that many hours to complete. (Maybe they think we do it on the computer? I don't know.) But it gives them a much greater sense of the effort that goes into them and they are more likely to take better care of them. (Speaking of which, care/ framing of the scroll is also a good idea to put on the back of the scrolls.) Brandy (Marinus, Atlantia) - --part1_c5.1585f1b9.28be4183_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 8/28/2001 12:11:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
KMcWhyte@aol.com writes:


Most of the people I know only go to court when they think they know someone
they're familiar with may get an award. It's sad, in a sense, considering
that there's a lot of work put into the awards and we don't get to see them
all the time. A court pressed for time fairly recently took one of my best
works, held it in the air for all of a nanosecond, and then passed it into
the hands of a representative for the recipient (who was not there).


I know how you feel. That has happened to me a few times through the years.
The worst thing I saw is a scroll I did laying on top of a shield with two
rattan swords laying on top of it in the car just before the recipient went
home. That made me mad enough that I went and said something to the guy. He
had no idea that the scroll was handmade and that I had spent three weeks of
my spare time working on it. He was very sorry that he treated it that way
and appologized profusely. Still, it was very disappointing to see my work
totally messed up like that by someone who didn't care at all about having a
scroll.

As to getting to see the scrolls, I like the events that have display tables
for the award scrolls. The scrolls can be given in court and then placed on a
table in the hall so people can look at them during the evening. This gives
the populace a chance to see the work. I would like to see this happen more
at events.

I also think scribes should put not only their name on the back of the
scroll, but also the approximate hours they spent working on it. I have been
doing that for years and have had several people come up and thank me, and
say they had no idea that the scrolls took that many hours to complete.
(Maybe they think we do it on the computer? I don't know.) But it gives them
a much greater sense of the effort that goes into them and they are more
likely to take better care of them. (Speaking of which, care/ framing of the
scroll is also a good idea to put on the back of the scrolls.)

Brandy (Marinus, Atlantia) - --part1_c5.1585f1b9.28be4183_boundary-- =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 09:42:43 EDT From: BRNDALSTON@aol.com Subject: Re: [scribes]: comments - --part1_d.19e97149.28be4b53_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 8/28/2001 1:59:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time, richard@CalligraphyStudio.com writes: > I am very new to this list and have been "lurking" for a little while now. > I am a professional calligrapher and would like to know how one becomes a > Scribe for the SCA. > Welcome, Richard. Basically all you need to do is contact the Clerk of the Signet for your Kingdom, or your local group's scriptorium contact and ask them for an assignment and the guidelines (Scribe's Handbook) for that Kingdom and then you are an SCA Scribe! Someone already posted the URL to find out where your local group is. If you have any problems with that, put another post on this list as to your geographical location and we can help you. Your kingdom also probably has "University" type events where classes are held where you can learn all about medieval style illumination and calligraphy and what we do in the SCA. A local scriptorium is also a great source for learning about your local area's customs. Again, welcome to the list and to the SCA. Please do not hesitate to post any questions you may have. Brandy Lady Brandwyn Alston of the Rift (Marinus, Atlantia) - --part1_d.19e97149.28be4b53_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 8/28/2001 1:59:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
richard@CalligraphyStudio.com writes:


I am very new to this list and have been "lurking" for a little while now.
I am a professional calligrapher and would like to know how one becomes a
Scribe for the SCA.


Welcome, Richard.
Basically all you need to do is contact the Clerk of the Signet for your
Kingdom, or your local group's scriptorium contact and ask them for an
assignment and the guidelines (Scribe's Handbook) for that Kingdom and then
you are an SCA Scribe!

Someone already posted the URL to find out where your local group is. If you
have any problems with that, put another post on this list as to your
geographical location and we can help you.

Your kingdom also probably has "University" type events where classes are
held where you can learn all about medieval style illumination and
calligraphy and what we do in the SCA. A local scriptorium is also a great
source for learning about your local area's customs.

Again, welcome to the list and to the SCA. Please do not hesitate to post any
questions you may have.

Brandy
Lady Brandwyn Alston of the Rift (Marinus, Atlantia) - --part1_d.19e97149.28be4b53_boundary-- =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 09:46:43 EDT From: BRNDALSTON@aol.com Subject: Re: Fw: [scribes]: Introduction - --part1_4b.10745391.28be4c43_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 8/28/2001 7:19:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, eldupuy@bellsouth.net writes: > I, too, am new to the list (actually, signed up a month or so ago, but > failed to introduce myself) and hail from Meridies. > I am a member the shire Glaedenfeld, based in Nashville TN. > My interests are illumination, calligraphy, embroidery, dancing - and > running after my 2 1/2 year old son. If you don't spot me painting > scrolls, I'm probably in a kitchen or taking care of children somewhere. > Elspeth la Faire, AoA, CMC > Welcome Samuel and Elspeth, I used to live in Glaedenfeld (back in the late '80s). Please tell everyone "Hi" from me! Do they have a scriptorium there now? Just curious. Brandy (Lady Brandwyn Alston of the Rift - Barony of Marinus, Atlantia) - --part1_4b.10745391.28be4c43_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 8/28/2001 7:19:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
eldupuy@bellsouth.net writes:


I, too, am new to the list (actually, signed up a month or so ago, but
failed to introduce myself) and hail from Meridies.
I am a member the shire Glaedenfeld, based in Nashville TN.
My interests are illumination, calligraphy, embroidery, dancing - and
running after my 2 1/2 year old son.   If you don't spot me painting
scrolls, I'm probably in a kitchen or taking care of children somewhere.
Elspeth la Faire, AoA, CMC


Welcome Samuel and Elspeth,
I used to live in Glaedenfeld (back in the late '80s). Please tell everyone
"Hi" from me! Do they have a scriptorium there now? Just curious.

Brandy
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