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 [scribes]: Monthly Administrivia Mailing
 [scribes]: Monthly Administrivia Mailing
 [scribes]: Fwd: [marinus] A Worthy Project
 RE: [scribes]: Supply Questions - liquid gold?
 [scribes]: Introduction!!
 Re: [scribes]: Introduction!!
 [scribes]: Latest commissioned work
 [scribes]: Re: Liquid Gold
 Re: [scribes]: Introduction!!
 [scribes]: scribal event
 [scribes]: Scribal events

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Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 00:00:01 -0700 (PDT)
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Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 09:42:03 EDT
From: BRNDALSTON@aol.com
Subject: [scribes]: Fwd: [marinus] A Worthy Project

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In a message dated 7/1/2001 7:19:06 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
Rowanwald@sybercom.net writes:


> 
> There was an old baroness,
> Who lived in a shoe....
> 
>    Well, it's not quite true, but close enough for our purposes. The Barony
> of Marinus needs a pavilion to shade our people and to be a place of
> hospitality and camaraderie. We also need to slake our thirst for knowledge,
> which we do by lending aid to the printing of the Kingdom's A&S newsletter,
> the Oak. So keeping these two desires in mind -
> 
>    We bought a book. An old, old book.
> 
>    How could buying a book, especially one printed in 1568, help us with our
> quest for fulfilment? Easy - we're going to raffle the book away and split
> the proceeds between our need for food (for the mind) and shelter. So we are
> announcing the lottery of :
> 
> "Martyrologium", written approx. in the year 875 by Usuardus, a monk of St.
> Germani de Pratis and purveyor of saintly artefacts for his King, Charles
> the Bald; reprinted during the Great Religious Debate (in the year 1568) by
> Johann Molanus, a theological professor at Louvain. The work was "the most
> famous document of it's time" according to the Catholic Encyclopaedia and is
> still a referenced authority on it's subject.
>    Our copy is documented in the Cockx-Indestege and the Adams listings, and
> is in excellent condition, although it is now missing it's cover. The edges
> of the pages are in red and none are missing or defaced. Although it is
> written in Latin, the entries are well organised and this non-Latin reader
> could puzzle out enough to find the entry for her patron saint and which
> feast days occurred on her birthday. I also liked the scattering of pictures
> in the text.
> 
>    If you'd like a chance to own a book printed in 1568, or to gift it to a
> loved one or academic institution with such a treasure of the past, here is
> your opportunity. Chances will be sold at a dollar (US) each. The actual
> lottery will take place at Pennsic. Tickets will be sold in advance,
> starting now, by mail or in person, and will continue to be sold until the
> actual drawing. Information about where they will be available during
> Pennsic will be posted after landgrab. If you are not attending the event,
> we can make delivery arrangements.
> 
> For more information, please contact Baroness Rosine of Rowanwald at
> Rowanwald@sybercom.net., or by writing to Terri Morgan, 905 Spring Garden
> Lane, Virginia Beach, VA 23452.
> 
> 
> Please help us with this worthy cause. This book should go to someone who
> will enjoy having a piece of our time period in their hand.
> 
> In service,
> Rosine of Rowanwald*
> Nobility depends not on parentage or place of birth,
> but on breadth of compassion and depth of loving-kindness.
> If we would be noble, let us be great-hearted.
> rowanwald@sybercom.net
> 
> * I give permission, request, pray that this message will be forwarded to
> such lists as would have interested readers.
> 
> 
> 
This is from my Barony, so I had to pass it along. I haven't seen the book 
yet, but you can bet I will before Pennsic!
Brandy


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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  SIZE=2>In a message dated 7/1/2001 7:19:06 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
<BR>Rowanwald@sybercom.net writes:
<BR>
<BR>
<BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">
<BR>There was an old baroness,
<BR>Who lived in a shoe....
<BR>
<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;Well, it's not quite true, but close enough for our purposes. The Barony
<BR>of Marinus needs a pavilion to shade our people and to be a place of
<BR>hospitality and camaraderie. We also need to slake our thirst for knowledge,
<BR>which we do by lending aid to the printing of the Kingdom's A&amp;S newsletter,
<BR>the Oak. So keeping these two desires in mind -
<BR>
<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;We bought a book. An old, old book.
<BR>
<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;How could buying a book, especially one printed in 1568, help us with our
<BR>quest for fulfilment? Easy - we're going to raffle the book away and split
<BR>the proceeds between our need for food (for the mind) and shelter. So we are
<BR>announcing the lottery of :
<BR>
<BR>"Martyrologium", written approx. in the year 875 by Usuardus, a monk of St.
<BR>Germani de Pratis and purveyor of saintly artefacts for his King, Charles
<BR>the Bald; reprinted during the Great Religious Debate (in the year 1568) by
<BR>Johann Molanus, a theological professor at Louvain. The work was "the most
<BR>famous document of it's time" according to the Catholic Encyclopaedia and is
<BR>still a referenced authority on it's subject.
<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;Our copy is documented in the Cockx-Indestege and the Adams listings, and
<BR>is in excellent condition, although it is now missing it's cover. The edges
<BR>of the pages are in red and none are missing or defaced. Although it is
<BR>written in Latin, the entries are well organised and this non-Latin reader
<BR>could puzzle out enough to find the entry for her patron saint and which
<BR>feast days occurred on her birthday. I also liked the scattering of pictures
<BR>in the text.
<BR>
<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;If you'd like a chance to own a book printed in 1568, or to gift it to a
<BR>loved one or academic institution with such a treasure of the past, here is
<BR>your opportunity. Chances will be sold at a dollar (US) each. The actual
<BR>lottery will take place at Pennsic. Tickets will be sold in advance,
<BR>starting now, by mail or in person, and will continue to be sold until the
<BR>actual drawing. Information about where they will be available during
<BR>Pennsic will be posted after landgrab. If you are not attending the event,
<BR>we can make delivery arrangements.
<BR>
<BR>For more information, please contact Baroness Rosine of Rowanwald at
<BR>Rowanwald@sybercom.net., or by writing to Terri Morgan, 905 Spring Garden
<BR>Lane, Virginia Beach, VA 23452.
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>Please help us with this worthy cause. This book should go to someone who
<BR>will enjoy having a piece of our time period in their hand.
<BR>
<BR>In service,
<BR>Rosine of Rowanwald*
<BR>Nobility depends not on parentage or place of birth,
<BR>but on breadth of compassion and depth of loving-kindness.
<BR>If we would be noble, let us be great-hearted.
<BR>rowanwald@sybercom.net
<BR>
<BR>* I give permission, request, pray that this message will be forwarded to
<BR>such lists as would have interested readers.
<BR>
<BR>
<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BR>This is from my Barony, so I had to pass it along. I haven't seen the book 
<BR>yet, but you can bet I will before Pennsic!
<BR>Brandy
<BR></FONT></HTML>

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There was an old baroness,
Who lived in a shoe....

   Well, it's not quite true, but close enough for our purposes. The Barony
of Marinus needs a pavilion to shade our people and to be a place of
hospitality and camaraderie. We also need to slake our thirst for knowledge,
which we do by lending aid to the printing of the Kingdom's A&S newsletter,
the Oak. So keeping these two desires in mind -

   We bought a book. An old, old book.

   How could buying a book, especially one printed in 1568, help us with our
quest for fulfilment? Easy - we're going to raffle the book away and split
the proceeds between our need for food (for the mind) and shelter. So we are
announcing the lottery of :

"Martyrologium", written approx. in the year 875 by Usuardus, a monk of St.
Germani de Pratis and purveyor of saintly artefacts for his King, Charles
the Bald; reprinted during the Great Religious Debate (in the year 1568) by
Johann Molanus, a theological professor at Louvain. The work was "the most
famous document of it's time" according to the Catholic Encyclopaedia and is
still a referenced authority on it's subject.
   Our copy is documented in the Cockx-Indestege and the Adams listings, and
is in excellent condition, although it is now missing it's cover. The edges
of the pages are in red and none are missing or defaced. Although it is
written in Latin, the entries are well organised and this non-Latin reader
could puzzle out enough to find the entry for her patron saint and which
feast days occurred on her birthday. I also liked the scattering of pictures
in the text.

   If you'd like a chance to own a book printed in 1568, or to gift it to a
loved one or academic institution with such a treasure of the past, here is
your opportunity. Chances will be sold at a dollar (US) each. The actual
lottery will take place at Pennsic. Tickets will be sold in advance,
starting now, by mail or in person, and will continue to be sold until the
actual drawing. Information about where they will be available during
Pennsic will be posted after landgrab. If you are not attending the event,
we can make delivery arrangements.

For more information, please contact Baroness Rosine of Rowanwald at
Rowanwald@sybercom.net., or by writing to Terri Morgan, 905 Spring Garden
Lane, Virginia Beach, VA 23452.


Please help us with this worthy cause. This book should go to someone who
will enjoy having a piece of our time period in their hand.

In service,
Rosine of Rowanwald*
Nobility depends not on parentage or place of birth,
but on breadth of compassion and depth of loving-kindness.
If we would be noble, let us be great-hearted.
rowanwald@sybercom.net

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Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 10:03:26 -0400
From: "Holly" <hollygrimmett@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: [scribes]: Supply Questions - liquid gold?

(interested look)  Do you mix them together (proportions, please?)  or are
you doing one layer of each at a time?

(and thank you for mentioning it.)  :)

:-)---Holly---<--<-@



> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-scribes@castle.org [mailto:owner-scribes@castle.org]On
> Behalf Of Pixel, Queen of Cats

>
> Gold paint? I use a combination of W&N gold and Schmincke Gold Pearl, with
> a touch of red (but that's because I do Ottonian, and it looks better that
> way).


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Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 19:04:40 -0400
From: "Michael Holy" <mholy1@gl.umbc.edu>
Subject: [scribes]: Introduction!!

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Hi all,
In reading the monthly administrative email, I decided it was time to =
follow its advice and introduce myself.  I'm brand new to the list and =
also to scribe stuff in general.  I'm going for my first "lesson" with =
Baroness Baroness Isobel Bedingfield this week.  I look forward to =
learning the scribal arts and to posting to this list as my limited =
knowledge might be helpful.  Glad to be working with you all.

Michel von Schonsee
Barony of Lochmere

(Michael Holy, Baltimore, MD)

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In reading the monthly administrative =
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brand=20
new to the list and also to scribe stuff in general.&nbsp; I'm going for =
my=20
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Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 19:33:43 -0500
From: "Helen Schultz" <meisterin@comteck.com>
Subject: Re: [scribes]: Introduction!!

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Welcome to the list, Michel.  Tell us how your first lesson goes, and =
feel free to ask any of us on the list for further assistance.  It looks =
like your last name is similar to mine... (you might want to put the "e" =
in to represent the umlaut in texts without that letter [the umlauted =
"o" that is]).  Mine means Beautiful Fountain or Spring, yours means =
Beautiful Sea or Ocean.

Meisterin Katarina Helene von Schoenborn, OL
Shire of Narrental (Peru, Indiana)
Middle Kingdom
http://www.netusa1.net/~meistern

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Michael Holy=20
  To: scribes@castle.org=20
  Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 6:04 PM
  Subject: [scribes]: Introduction!!


  Hi all,
  In reading the monthly administrative email, I decided it was time to =
follow its advice and introduce myself.  I'm brand new to the list and =
also to scribe stuff in general.  I'm going for my first "lesson" with =
Baroness Baroness Isobel Bedingfield this week.  I look forward to =
learning the scribal arts and to posting to this list as my limited =
knowledge might be helpful.  Glad to be working with you all.

  Michel von Schonsee
  Barony of Lochmere

  (Michael Holy, Baltimore, MD)

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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi all,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In reading the monthly administrative =
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  decided it was time to follow its advice and introduce myself.&nbsp; =
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  Isobel Bedingfield this week.&nbsp; I look forward to learning the =
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Michel von Schonsee</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Barony of Lochmere</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>(Michael Holy, Baltimore,=20
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Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2001 23:02:50 +1000
From: Christine Robertson <yseult@acay.com.au>
Subject: [scribes]: Latest commissioned work

Fellow scribes,
	I've just complete a set of wedding vows for a nice couple getting married
this weekend in Maine.  They're in mid-1400 acanthus and twiddly flowers
style.
(There is also my second-to-last commissioned piece, about which the less
said the better -- an explosion a a time machine from the beginning, my
brilliant idea to gild the knotwork was NOT one of my better thoughts.  I
now know why I've always shyed away from Celtic stuff -- I'm terrible at
it!  can't draw parallel lines to save my life!  But flowers and people I
_can_ paint.)

Anyway, for those interested, the URL is
	http://goldgryph.virtualave.net/illumination/commissions.htm

Click on NEW WORK.

- --Yseult de Lacy, OL

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Wentworth Falls, Sydney                          Barony of Rowany
NSW  Australia                                   Lochac (West Kingdom)
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Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2001 23:02:47 +1000
From: Christine Robertson <yseult@acay.com.au>
Subject: [scribes]: Re: Liquid Gold

Dear fellow-scribes,

One of our new people recently asked:
> I would like recommendation for what's been called 'liquid gold' by some.
> I am not sure what it is (acrylic? gouache? ink?) and which brand(s) and
> colours(s) were tried and true for our illumination purposes.

The *real* "liquid gold" as described in manuscript catalogues is actually
shell gold -- essentially gold dust in glue (typically gum arabic, I would
assume).  It comes as a little button a bit smaller than a dime, about 1/8"
high in the middle, in a tiny white plastic dish.  (The original medieval
stuff was mixed up in a seashell, hence the name.)  It costs about $40 here
(Australia), so I would suppose you can get a button for US $20-25 or so.  

Shell gold has two virtues and one drawback:  it can be painted in very
fine strokes, much finer than leaf can be laid on gesso or size (raised
plaster-based and flat, respectively);  it can be diluted to give a gold
sparkle to other paint;  but it cannot be burnished to anything like the
mirror finish of leaf.  In fact, it can only really be shined up a little
if at all, with *very* careful hard burnishing or gentle polishing with silk.

Any reputable gouache -- esp. Windsor & Newton -- will do a good job of
being shell gold.  The W&N lasts at least 20 years; don't know how much
longer.  However, any gold subsitute will tarnish eventually, in a timespan
ranging from 6 months to 20+ years.  

I myself use Sakura "Tempera Powder Gold" when I don't use the real thing
(I have gone through 2 1/2 real shell gold buttons in 10 years of low to
moderate activity).  On a good-quality paper background, it will retain its
shine and colour quite well for at least 8 years when not exposed to much
light;  in higher light conditions, it tarnishes in 5 or so.  It is *cheap*
- -- a 25ml (2 1/2 oz, approx) bottle of powder for $5 or so.  It is *way*
*shiny* -- you absolutely cannot tell it from the real stuff when first
laid down -- and like gouache, it rehydrates indefinitely.

For obvious reasons I cannot tell you where to find it in the US or Canada,
but I'm fairly sure I've seen it mentioned on this list before.

- --Yseult de Lacy, OL (West, Lochac)


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Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 10:35:37 EDT
From: BRNDALSTON@aol.com
Subject: Re: [scribes]: Introduction!!

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Welcome Michel,
I am from Marinus and often travel up your way to events. If you need any 
help on anything, let me know!
Brandy
(Lady Brandwyn Alston of the Rift - Barony of  Marinus Scriptorium Steward, 
Atlantia)


In a message dated 7/1/2001 7:07:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
mholy1@gl.umbc.edu writes:


> Hi all,
> In reading the monthly administrative email, I decided it was time to 
> follow its advice and introduce myself.  I'm brand new to the list and also 
> to scribe stuff in general.  I'm going for my first "lesson" with Baroness 
> Baroness Isobel Bedingfield this week.  I look forward to learning the 
> scribal arts and to posting to this list as my limited knowledge might be 
> helpful.  Glad to be working with you all.
>  
> Michel von Schonsee
> Barony of Lochmere
>  
> (Michael Holy, Baltimore, MD)
> 
> 
> 



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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">Welcome Michel,
<BR>I am from Marinus and often travel up your way to events. If you need any 
<BR>help on anything, let me know!
<BR>Brandy
<BR>(Lady Brandwyn Alston of the Rift - Barony of &nbsp;Marinus Scriptorium Steward, 
<BR>Atlantia)
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>In a message dated 7/1/2001 7:07:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
<BR>mholy1@gl.umbc.edu writes:
<BR>
<BR>
<BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Hi all,
<BR>In reading the monthly administrative email, I decided it was time to 
<BR>follow its advice and introduce myself. &nbsp;I'm brand new to the list and also 
<BR>to scribe stuff in general. &nbsp;I'm going for my first "lesson" with Baroness </FONT><FONT  COLOR="#000000" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Times New Roman" LANG="0">
<BR>Baroness Isobel Bedingfield this week. &nbsp;I look forward to learning the 
<BR>scribal arts and to posting to this list as my limited knowledge might be 
<BR>helpful. &nbsp;Glad to be working with you all.</FONT><FONT  COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Times New Roman" LANG="0">
<BR> 
<BR></FONT><FONT  COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">Michel von Schonsee</FONT><FONT  COLOR="#000000" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">
<BR></FONT><FONT  COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">Barony of Lochmere</FONT><FONT  COLOR="#000000" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">
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<BR></FONT><FONT  COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">(Michael Holy, Baltimore, MD)</FONT><FONT  COLOR="#000000" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">
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Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2001 17:14:50 -0400
From: Jenn <caitlynmew@fast.net>
Subject: [scribes]: scribal event

Hi Everyone..
I saw a thread earlier about a Scribal Event sometime this fall or
winter in PA. I
didn't see too many comments about it but to me it sounded wonderful!! I
for one
would love to take classes to improve my illumination. I would
especially love to
draw and paint faces on miniatures as that is one of my weak points.  Id
also like
to brush up on my goldleafing too. A hands on class on that would be
great!! Ive
got the supplies to do it, but never had the nerve to try it yet.
What does everyone else think?
In service,
Caitlyn MacKenzie

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Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 14:49:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: Kimberly Koch <sarapenrose@yahoo.com>
Subject: [scribes]: Scribal events

Speaking of scribal events, I'd like to post a quick
note to let our friends and neighbors know about the
upcoming Ansteorran Heraldic and Scribal Symposium. If
you live in a nearby kingdom, or will happen to be in
the Dallas/Ft Worth area on the weekend of July 14,
feel free to join us! 

Please note that the scroll design class and the
insignia class are based on the Ansteorran scroll and
award process, which is markedly different from those
of other kingdoms. I think most everything else should
be applicable across kingdoms. 

If you have any questions, feel free to contact me or
the autocrat, whose info is on the event webpage (url
provided below).

Warm regards,
Sara Penrose
Ansteorran Star Signet


Here is the letter I posted to our Kingdom list:
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Hi all!

Please forgive me if you receive multiple posts - I
just wanted to take a moment to remind everyone that
the Ansteorran Heraldic and Scribal Symposium is
coming up on July 14.

SCRIBAL CLASSES
I have the great honor of coordinating the scribal
tracks for this event, and wanted to share with all of
you some of the wonderful classes that are planned:

* DESIGNING AWARD SCROLLS, taught by Mistress Stella
Silvana. Helpful hints for designing award scrolls,
both photocopied and original works.

* MAKING KINGDOM AWARD INSIGNIA, taught by Mistress
Stella Silvana. For those interested in the creation
of award insignia. 

* WRITE YOUR NAME IN ARABIC, taught by Lord Mahee of
Acre. An introduction to Arabic calligraphy. 

* ARABIC/ENGLISH ILLUSIONARY SCRIPT, taught by Lord
Mahee of Acre. An Arabic script that reads as English
but that uses actual Arabic letters.

* MAKING YOUR MARK, taught by Lady Suzanne de la
Ferte. Designing a mark to use as your signature.

* HERALDIC ART OR COLORING WITHIN THE LINES - Lady
Suzanne de la Ferte. How to draw at a consulting
table. What "They" are looking for and what works
well.

* DRAFTING FOR SCRIBES - HL Muireann a Dun Na Traighe
Ceine. Drafting techniques, tricks and tools to aid in
scroll design and layout.

* BASIC LETTER FORMS- Lady Lete Blithespring. A
discussion of basic calligraphy skills from a
long-time professional calligrapher.

* ANALYZING MANUSCRIPT HANDS - Lady Lete Blithespring.
Tips on how to look at, analyze, and reproduce a
period hand from a long-time professional
calligrapher.

* BAR BORDERS AND IVY VINES- Mistress Hillary Rose
Greenslade. Overview of historical illumination known
as 'bar border and ivy vines,' with hands-on
drawing/layout guidelines.

* COLOR PALETTES OF MEDIEVAL AND RENAISSANCE ARTISTS -
Mistress Serena Lascelles. Basic information on period
pigments--which pigments are period and which are not,
what binders were used, and other information.

* GOLDLEAF AND GOLDLEAF TECHNIQUES - Master Geoff
Cathan. An introduction to gold leafing tools and
application techniques as applied to paper and vellum.

This is an extraordinarily talented group of artisans;
we are fortunate to have them come share their
knowledge with us.

OTHER SCRIBAL ACTIVITIES
In addition to the classes above, we will also have
some other fun scribal activities planned:

ALL-DAY CHARTER PAINTING. We'll have a room set aside
for charter painting throughout the day. Stay all day
or stop by between classes to paint charters for the
kingdom. Supplies provided.

SCRIBAL TEST, sponsored by Mistress Rose Cathan. Come
test your scribal knowledge! This will be similar to
the test Mistress Rose sponsored at Knowne World
Hearldic Symposium. The questions are pretty tough, so
study up! There will be a prize. :)

WHAT TO BRING
Some instructors are requesting a small donation to
help offset their cost of materials, so *please* bring
a little money to cover that. Bring paper and pen to
take notes in your classes. Also, feel free to bring
your paints, brushes, calligraphy pens, and ink - you
may get the chance to try them out in your classes or
at the charter painting table.

MORE INFO
There's lots more going on at this event than what
I've listed here. There are tons of great heraldic
classes planned, too, and more. More details about the
site and the event, including info about the heraldic
tracks, can be found online at
http://home.earthlink.net/~dmriney/AHSS/

I look forward to seeing everyone there!

Warm regards,
Sara Penrose
scribal class coordinator for AH&SS






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