From: owner-scribes@castle.org (scribes digest) To: scribes-digest@castle.org Subject: scribes digest V5 #47 Reply-To: Sender: owner-scribes@castle.org Errors-To: owner-scribes@castle.org Precedence: bulk scribes digest Thursday, March 1 2001 Volume 05 : Number 047 ======================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with unsubscribe scribes-digets in the body of the message. Leave the subject line blank. Do not include any additional text. Fwd: Re: [scribes]: wax seal question [scribes]: Fwd: Hi & pigment question Fwd: framing tangent Re: [scribes]: Wax seals in a frame Re: [scribes]: Fwd: Hi & pigment question Re: [scribes]: Fwd: Hi & pigment question Re: [scribes]: Fwd: Hi & pigment question Re: [scribes]: Fwd: Hi & pigment question Re: Re: [scribes]: wax seal question Re: [scribes]: list set-up Re: Re: [scribes]: wax seal question [scribes]: Sale! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 20:12:09 -0500 From: Danielle Nunn-Weinberg Subject: Fwd: Re: [scribes]: wax seal question >Greetings, > >I'm from Ealdormere and we've inherited the Middle's habit for rubber stamp seals. Does anyone have any suggestions for trying to convert the kingdom to a wax seal? > >Cheers, >Gwendoline ( Who has been known to make them seal the backs of her scrolls) > >At 09:12 27/02/01 -0500, you wrote: >>And don't forget lead! >> >>RanthulfR >> >>PS. Yes, the Middle has an awful rubber stamp. We have scribes who >>specifically request that no seal go on their creations unless it is the >>wax one because the rubber one is big and totally ruins the effect of a >>good, period looking thing made with proper materials. >> >>"Amy L. Hornburg Heilveil" wrote: >>> >>> At 07:10 PM 2/27/2001 -0400, Martin Higgins wrote: >>> >>> > I have been following this thread for a while and wondered what the >>> > colour >>> > of the seals would be traditionally, as I have not had opportunity >>> > to see >>> > any, or at least in colour to my knowledge, am really not sure. >>> > Ok it may be kinda silly to ask, but thought it interesting :o) >>> > Griet >>> >>> Black and dark red are the two colors I see most in my research. >>> >>> Despina >> >>-- >> >>Randy Asplund (734) 663-0954 >>Science Fiction and Fantasy Illustration >>2101 S. Circle Dr., Ann Arbor, MI. 48103 >> >>See a Universe of art ranging from Medieval Manuscripts >>to Star Trek and Magic: The Gathering at: >>http://www.provide.net/~randyaf >>=================================================================== >>To unsubscribe from this list, send email to >>with a blank Subject: line and >>unsubscribe scribes >>in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in >>the body. >> =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 20:12:59 -0500 From: Danielle Nunn-Weinberg Subject: [scribes]: Fwd: Hi & pigment question Greetings, I have just discovered that when one replies to an email from this list, it goes to the person whose post you're replying to, not to the list. Is there anyway for that to be fixed or else I probably won't post again. : ( Cheers, Gwendoline >Greetings, > >I'm new to this list and I thought I would make my debut with a couple of questions. First, where can I order the Permagenta paper from? My local art supply store looked at me like I was speaking gibberish when I asked for it (mind you they have everything else). : ) > >Secondly, my real question is, what on earth do I do with my period pigments? How do I turn powder to paint? I've got the shells, the glass thingy, etc... but, can't seem to make head or tails of any written instructions I've seen. I really learn best visually but, I'm hoping that someone can make it clearer than Cennini? > >Cheers, >Gwendoline Rosamond (Ealdormere) =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 21:10:46 -0500 From: Danielle Nunn-Weinberg Subject: Fwd: framing tangent Re: [scribes]: Wax seals in a frame >Greetings, > > >>The one scroll I did where I've used pendant seals was a double sided >>scroll (it's up on my web page if you want to take a look, including the >>seals). And because of that, I wanted to double glaze the frame (i.e. >>glass on either side of the scroll). I found it a lot easier to frame it >>by cutting a square mat with the seals hanging free within the square, and >>matted on the other 3 sides. To keep the scroll from sliding out of the >>mat since it wasn't supported on the bottom, I stitched the top of the >>scroll to a piece of linen and clued the linen into the mat sandwich. >>Since this was on real vellum I wasn't worried about the stitches ripping >>thru it. > >This reminds me I have a small manuscript page, it needs to be framed. However, it is double sided and I would like it framed so that both sides are visible but, it is in a conservation grade "setting." My parents have a framing business but, my dad hasn't worked with anything like this before so is a bit at a loss. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > >Cheers, >Gwendoline =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 10:29:36 +0800 From: Jean-Paul Blaquiere Subject: Re: [scribes]: Fwd: Hi & pigment question > On Feb 28, Danielle Nunn-Weinberg scratched in indelible ink : > I have just discovered that when one replies to an email from this list, it > goes to the person whose post you're replying to, not to the list. Is there > anyway for that to be fixed or else I probably won't post again. : ( > This is the preferred situation for many people, particularly those with an IT background. I am on one list that does set the 'Reply-to:' to the list itself and many many people accidentally send personal replies to the list and then send an apology 10 seconds later! (On the order of 3-10 emails per month) It is a lot easier to discover that the email you wanted to go to many people only went to one, rather than the other way round ;) /Jp... - -- Jean-Paul Blaquière || Avatar of Computational japester@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au || Thaumaturgy http://japester.ucc.asn.au || The only thing keeping me from being a serial killer is my distast for manual labour - dilbert =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 21:54:09 -0500 From: "Anthony J. Bryant" Subject: Re: [scribes]: Fwd: Hi & pigment question Jean-Paul Blaquiere wrote: > > On Feb 28, Danielle Nunn-Weinberg scratched in indelible ink : > > > I have just discovered that when one replies to an email from this list, it > > goes to the person whose post you're replying to, not to the list. Is there > > anyway for that to be fixed or else I probably won't post again. : ( > > > This is the preferred situation for many people, particularly those with an IT > background. I am on one list that does set the 'Reply-to:' to the list itself > and many many people accidentally send personal replies to the list and then > send an apology 10 seconds later! (On the order of 3-10 emails per month) > It is a lot easier to discover that the email you wanted to go to many people > only went to one, rather than the other way round ;) > Not if you're trying to get a discussion going. I'm personally >thisclose< to dumping this list because it's the ONLY one of the 30+ I'm on that I have to do that with, and I'm tired of replying to something only to realize later that I've sent it to one person and not the group. Effingham In fact, I just hit "send" and almost sent this to JP, and would have had the spell-checker not flagged the ">thisclose<" and I saw the "to" line. Dammit, this is aggravating!! =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 22:46:44 -0500 From: "Helen Schultz" Subject: Re: [scribes]: Fwd: Hi & pigment question Gwendoline: You simply have to "Reply All" and then delete the address of the individual. Yes, it is a bit of a hassle, but it saves us having lots of "me-too" messages and if you desire to respond privately, you can do it by just using "Reply." You can order Pergamenta from almost any of the on-line art sources listed below. You can order their catalogs, too. http://www.johnnealbooks.com/cgi-local/shop.pl/page=index.html http://www.danielsmith.com/ http://www.paperinkarts.com http://www.jerryscatalog.com To turn dry pigments into paint, you will need distilled water, gum arabic liquid (or glair, or egg yolk), and some sort of special mixing dish or glass slab with a flat muller. I usually start with less than 1/8 tsp of pigment, about 7 drops of gum arabic and then grind in a little 4-part unglazed porcelain dish with a small glass muller. After it is mixed up good, I then add water. RanthulfR uses a glass slab and a glass muller. Either way works. Hope this helps you a bit. KHvS - ----- Original Message ----- > Greetings, > I have just discovered that when one replies to an email from this list, it > goes to the person whose post you're replying to, not to the list. Is there > anyway for that to be fixed or else I probably won't post again. : ( > Cheers, > Gwendoline > > > >Greetings, > > > >I'm new to this list and I thought I would make my debut with a couple of > questions. First, where can I order the Permagenta paper from? My local > art supply store looked at me like I was speaking gibberish when I asked > for it (mind you they have everything else). : ) > > > >Secondly, my real question is, what on earth do I do with my period > pigments? How do I turn powder to paint? I've got the shells, the glass > thingy, etc... but, can't seem to make head or tails of any written > instructions I've seen. I really learn best visually but, I'm hoping that > someone can make it clearer than Cennini? > > > >Cheers, > >Gwendoline Rosamond (Ealdormere) > =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 23:21:35 -0500 From: "Sally Burnell" Subject: Re: [scribes]: Fwd: Hi & pigment question > Greetings, > I have just discovered that when one replies to an email from this list, it > goes to the person whose post you're replying to, not to the list. Is there > anyway for that to be fixed or else I probably won't post again. : ( Simple solution: click on "Reply All". If you want the post to go to the list alone, delete the e-mail address of the original sender and just keep the mailto:scribes@castle.org in your address line. If you wish the post to remain private and off-list, merely click on "Reply". It's set up this way so that you don't accidentally send to the list something that was meant to remain private. There've been a few times on other lists I get that I either meant to or should have sent a reply to a post privately. One learns one's lessons quickly. This way, you have the option of "Reply" for a private missive or "Reply All" (minus the address of the original poster if you so desire) for a public one. Trust me, it's better for everyone. You see a lot less drivel, chatter and vitriol here than on other lists, and I suspect that it is due partly to its "reply" set up. And I'd just as soon keep it that way. ~Saradwen Midrealm =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 23:33:33 -0600 From: "Corinna Taylor/Al Frank" Subject: Re: Re: [scribes]: wax seal question Yes. Buy them one as a gift, along with plenty of wax. Corinna Treegirtsea - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Danielle Nunn-Weinberg" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 7:12 PM Subject: Fwd: Re: [scribes]: wax seal question > >Greetings, > > > >I'm from Ealdormere and we've inherited the Middle's habit for rubber > stamp seals. Does anyone have any suggestions for trying to convert the > kingdom to a wax seal? > > > >Cheers, > >Gwendoline ( Who has been known to make them seal the backs of her scrolls) > > > >At 09:12 27/02/01 -0500, you wrote: > >>And don't forget lead! > >> > >>RanthulfR > >> > >>PS. Yes, the Middle has an awful rubber stamp. We have scribes who > >>specifically request that no seal go on their creations unless it is the > >>wax one because the rubber one is big and totally ruins the effect of a > >>good, period looking thing made with proper materials. > >> > >>"Amy L. Hornburg Heilveil" wrote: > >>> > >>> At 07:10 PM 2/27/2001 -0400, Martin Higgins wrote: > >>> > >>> > I have been following this thread for a while and wondered what the > >>> > colour > >>> > of the seals would be traditionally, as I have not had opportunity > >>> > to see > >>> > any, or at least in colour to my knowledge, am really not sure. > >>> > Ok it may be kinda silly to ask, but thought it interesting :o) > >>> > Griet > >>> > >>> Black and dark red are the two colors I see most in my research. > >>> > >>> Despina > >> > >>-- > >> > >>Randy Asplund (734) 663-0954 > >>Science Fiction and Fantasy Illustration > >>2101 S. Circle Dr., Ann Arbor, MI. 48103 > >> > >>See a Universe of art ranging from Medieval Manuscripts > >>to Star Trek and Magic: The Gathering at: > >>http://www.provide.net/~randyaf > >>=================================================================== > >>To unsubscribe from this list, send email to > >>with a blank Subject: line and > >>unsubscribe scribes > >>in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in > >>the body. > >> > > =================================================================== > To unsubscribe from this list, send email to > with a blank Subject: line and > unsubscribe scribes > in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in > the body. > =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 01:05:50 -0500 From: "Jennifer" Subject: Re: [scribes]: list set-up >Trust me, it's better for everyone. You see a lot less drivel, chatter and >vitriol here than on other lists, and I suspect that it is due partly to its >"reply" set up. > >And I'd just as soon keep it that way. > >~Saradwen > Midrealm At the risk of doing the "Me too" response, yes, I agree. I like this set-up and have no problems "Replying to All". Funny how the more technologically advanced we get, the more we expect our technology to do for us. Genevieve Ealdormere =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 01:07:31 -0500 From: "Jennifer" Subject: Re: Re: [scribes]: wax seal question Gwen, The Kingdom of Ealdormere already has a wax seal. It just rarely gets used. Genevieve Ealdormere (former kingdom signet) >Yes. Buy them one as a gift, along with plenty of wax. > >Corinna >Treegirtsea > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Danielle Nunn-Weinberg" >To: >Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 7:12 PM >Subject: Fwd: Re: [scribes]: wax seal question > > >> >Greetings, >> > >> >I'm from Ealdormere and we've inherited the Middle's habit for rubber >> stamp seals. Does anyone have any suggestions for trying to convert the >> kingdom to a wax seal? >> > >> >Cheers, >> >Gwendoline ( Who has been known to make them seal the backs of her >scrolls) >> > =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:04:18 +0100 From: Anna Troy Subject: [scribes]: Sale! - --=====================_1606425==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Just thought people would like to know that John Neal's is having several sales the ones I saw was on Arches Hotpress paper and on vellum. Anna de Byxe http://www.johnnealbooks.com/cgi-local/shop.pl/page=index.html "So many books, so little time." 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