From: owner-scribes@castle.org (scribes digest) To: scribes-digest@castle.org Subject: scribes digest V5 #46 Reply-To: Sender: owner-scribes@castle.org Errors-To: owner-scribes@castle.org Precedence: bulk scribes digest Wednesday, February 28 2001 Volume 05 : Number 046 ======================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with unsubscribe scribes-digets in the body of the message. Leave the subject line blank. Do not include any additional text. Re: [scribes]: Re:Opaline vellum? [scribes]: Re: Pergamenata changing color? Re: [scribes]: Re:Opaline vellum? Re: [scribes]: Snow White virus is back on this list [scribes]: earthquake status - castle.org undamaged ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:49:43 -0800 From: Carolyn_Richardson@cch.com Subject: Re: [scribes]: Re:Opaline vellum? > Thank you for the warning about Pergamenata changing colour. I assume/hope > that would only be when exposed to natural light. >>It hasn't been sunny here much this winter, but in just 2 months the sample of Pergamenta I put in the window has changed. The creamy color is being replaced with a sickly gray. I don't know what effect other light sources or time will have on the paper, but to stay on the safe side, I won't be using it anymore.<< That's a bad sign about the pH neutrality of the pergamenata paper. I think we had a long discussion several months ago whether pergamenata was "acid free" or simply "pH neutral". I think that your light experiment has shown that it's probably the latter. Leaving it in direct light is causing a chemical reaction in the paper, resulting in a color change. That doesn't bode well for the durability of this product. IIRC, "pH neutral" paper is not acid free, but has had a chemical buffer added to it to neutralize the acidity of the paper. Any framer can tell you that sunlight is not your friend for anything that's not absolutely acid free. I left a piece of Arches 140# hot press paper in a sunny window one winter to check some color fastness on some pigments. Some of the pigments faded but the paper itself never changed color - I compared it to some scraps of the same that I had in my paper box (and surprisingly, the iris purple stayed quite purple throughout the experiment - I thought it would be terribly fugitive). Tetchubah of Greenlake, Caid =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 13:34:14 EST From: Luiseach@aol.com Subject: [scribes]: Re: Pergamenata changing color? I wonder if this is more of a problem with the "natural" colored pergamenata? I left some white heavyweight pergamenata in front of a west-facing window in my home in Riverside CA for several weeks (no, it was not deliberate, the cats knocked it behind the curtain) and haven't noticed any change in the color. Luighseach who frequently has cat help with her scribal endeavors. =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 14:09:25 -0500 (EST) From: john j cash Subject: Re: [scribes]: Re:Opaline vellum? Dear folks, The question behind my query about "sulfite paper" remains unanswered: how permanent is spam vellum? - -- johannes v.n. "If you can't be a good example, then you'll just have to be a horrible warning." -- Cathering Aird =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 13:05:17 -0600 From: "Charlotte DuBose" Subject: Re: [scribes]: Snow White virus is back on this list great...i got it too....gee...that only means I'll get it about 20 more times. - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 10:43 PM Subject: [scribes]: Snow White virus is back on this list > I just got sent the Snow White virus from the scribes' list, so let's check > and see where it's coming from. > > Luighseach don't blame me, I've got a Mac > =================================================================== > To unsubscribe from this list, send email to > with a blank Subject: line and > unsubscribe scribes > in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in > the body. > > =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 13:52:46 -0800 From: Lee Damon Subject: [scribes]: earthquake status - castle.org undamaged The system which hosts these mailing lists, the house the system is in, and the human occupant of said house are all ok. No major damage from the quake, nor does the network connection appear to have been effected. Business as usual, postmaster@castle.org nomad ----------- - Lee "nomad" Damon - \ play: nomad@castle.org or castle!nomad \ \ /\ Seneschal, Castle PAUS. / \ "Celebrate Diversity" / \ =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ End of scribes digest V5 #46 ****************************