From: owner-scribes@castle.org (scribes digest) To: scribes-digest@castle.org Subject: scribes digest V5 #43 Reply-To: Sender: owner-scribes@castle.org Errors-To: owner-scribes@castle.org Precedence: bulk scribes digest Tuesday, February 27 2001 Volume 05 : Number 043 ======================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with unsubscribe scribes-digets in the body of the message. Leave the subject line blank. Do not include any additional text. [scribes]: shipping scrolls Re: [scribes]: Paper preferences Re: [scribes]: shipping scrolls Re: [scribes]: wax seal question Re: [scribes]: wax seal question ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 19:56:36 -0500 From: "K. Reinhart" Subject: [scribes]: shipping scrolls I collaborated on a scroll with an EK scribe. She did the pencil drawing and faces, while I did the rest of the painting & calligraphy. The scroll was mailed in a padded envelope & surrounded by foam board & cardboard. When it arrived, every corner of the foam board was broken. I ironed several corners of the scroll before I painted it. If someone has good ideas for mailing scrolls, I would also be interested. Keran Roslin "Stear, Kelly" wrote: > Hello everyone! > I'm currently looking at trying to ship scrolls to other Kingdoms. I have > an idea as to how to go about this, I was curious as to what others have > tried. If you have a success and/or a failure story on how to try and ship > a scroll via snail mail I would love to hear it. :-) > > Thanks! > Lady Una Nic Daffydd > Kelly_Stear@urmc.rochester.edu =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 19:59:39 EST From: Fitchybear1@aol.com Subject: Re: [scribes]: Paper preferences In a message dated 2/26/01 8:43:41 PM Pacific Standard Time, KMcWhyte@aol.com writes: << If Stonehenge paper can stand up to that kind of pressure, then I think it can certainly withstand a wax hand stamp. (Wish we still had those in East). --Kayleigh >> seeing as Caid now puts ribbons (soon we will have hand woven silk grosgrain) through the documents first, it really isn't an issue, I think good Luiseach was concerned about both adhesion to the surface and some puckering-JimBear (Keeper of the Caidan Seals) =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 17:29:38 -0800 From: Carolyn_Richardson@cch.com Subject: Re: [scribes]: shipping scrolls Back many years ago when I lived in Western Seas (that's Hawaii to you non-Caidans), I used to mail scrolls all the time. I generally did so by putting the scroll between 4 pieces of heavy cardboard (the kind appliances are packaged in). I don't recall having any problems with things getting bent or smashed. I recently received a largish piece of vellum from Rick Cavasin in Canada, and I liked the way he packaged it. I think it would work for scrolls as well. Hardware stores sell these heavy duty cardboard tubes that are used as forms for pouring concrete. They're extremely rigid since they have to hold the concrete in place while it dries, and I think they come in several diameters. Rick had cut some of this tubing to the length required to accomdate the vellum width, and then rolled the vellum inside it, blocking the ends with cardboard. The entire package was wrapped in brown shipping paper. While I normally wouldn't advocate rolling scrolls, I think this would work for most situations since the scroll wouldn't be rolled tightly (the tube he used was about 8" diameter, much larger than your average mailing tube). Even if a wax seal was placed on the paper, it seems to me the width of these tubes would allow the seal to have plenty of room. I've also seen scrolls shipped between layers of foamcore board. The nice thing about that was it's easier to cut than cardboard, and the person had clued an extra piece on the edges that allowed room for the scroll's seal without smashing it. The extra piece on the edges also made the whole package more rigid. Foamcore is also lighter than cardboard. In the States, however, if you really want to insure something gets somewhere in one piece with no damage, spend the extra money and send it Registered. Each piece of registered mail has to be personally signed for by each postal employee who handles it, and they treat this stuff with kid gloves. It gets shipped separately from other mail as well. My brother-in-law ships all his custom jewellry pieces this way and has never had a single item go missing or broken in over 20 years of business. Tetchubah of Greenlake, Caid =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 21:12:32 -0500 From: Randy Asplund Subject: Re: [scribes]: wax seal question And don't forget lead! RanthulfR PS. Yes, the Middle has an awful rubber stamp. We have scribes who specifically request that no seal go on their creations unless it is the wax one because the rubber one is big and totally ruins the effect of a good, period looking thing made with proper materials. "Amy L. Hornburg Heilveil" wrote: > > At 07:10 PM 2/27/2001 -0400, Martin Higgins wrote: > > > I have been following this thread for a while and wondered what the > > colour > > of the seals would be traditionally, as I have not had opportunity > > to see > > any, or at least in colour to my knowledge, am really not sure. > > Ok it may be kinda silly to ask, but thought it interesting :o) > > Griet > > Black and dark red are the two colors I see most in my research. > > Despina - -- Randy Asplund (734) 663-0954 Science Fiction and Fantasy Illustration 2101 S. Circle Dr., Ann Arbor, MI. 48103 See a Universe of art ranging from Medieval Manuscripts to Star Trek and Magic: The Gathering at: http://www.provide.net/~randyaf =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 21:45:21 -0500 From: "Helen Schultz" Subject: Re: [scribes]: wax seal question One way to get away from the rubber stamp, is to paint your own version of the stamp onto the scroll. I've done this with one scroll myself, and it sure does make it look spiffy. I have a photo of that scroll on my web site (Abu Da'ud al Rashid al Bodrum's AoA done on papyrus). I got the idea from having seen one done by Rayah Blackstar at Pennsic one year. Of course, the one I did was a backlog, so I don't know how any current Royalty will take having a scribe painting in their own version of the stamp??? KHvS http://www.netusa1.net/~meistern (for now... a new address coming soon) - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Asplund" > > PS. Yes, the Middle has an awful rubber stamp. We have scribes who > specifically request that no seal go on their creations unless it is the > wax one because the rubber one is big and totally ruins the effect of a > good, period looking thing made with proper materials. > > RanthulfR =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ End of scribes digest V5 #43 ****************************