From: owner-scribes@castle.org (scribes digest) To: scribes-digest@castle.org Subject: scribes digest V5 #35 Reply-To: Sender: owner-scribes@castle.org Errors-To: owner-scribes@castle.org Precedence: bulk scribes digest Sunday, February 25 2001 Volume 05 : Number 035 ======================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with unsubscribe scribes-digets in the body of the message. Leave the subject line blank. Do not include any additional text. Re: [scribes]: Whimper Re: [scribes]: Whimper Re: [scribes]: time for an intro Re: [scribes]: Whimper and a question for Randy ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 10:57:17 -0600 From: "Christine F." Subject: Re: [scribes]: Whimper Did you just leave the year out, or the whole phrase about the year? I left it out once, so I just added it to the end. e.g. "While sitting on our Thrones in the Barony of Whoopee, in the year of Our Society XXXIV" Siobhan > I just finished the calligraphy for an award scroll and > as I was congratulating myself for only making 3 > mistakes (two of which can be fixed easily) I realized > I left the year off. There is room above and below >the line to write the year in with a really small nib, > but it will look weird. =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 10:05:58 -0800 From: "Laura F. Jenkins" Subject: Re: [scribes]: Whimper Thanks to everyone for the advice. When I got up this morning I was going to try and scrape off part of the month (it reads this 18th day of September with just the year left out) and try to write the year in, but after reading all the suggestions, I'm going to try and paint in a monk inserting the year. (operative word, try :) I'd love to work with a calligrapher but we don't have that many in the Kingdom and I'm an impatient type.. when I'm ready to scribe, I want to do it now and not wait for anyone else. :) Also, I like calligraphy better when I don't make stupid mistakes. :) thanks to you all....I'll let you know how it turns out. cheers, aliskye lyondemere, Caid =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 19:49:28 +0100 From: "Brahdelt" Subject: Re: [scribes]: time for an intro Dear Lady Kayleigh, Thanks for your letter, here are some of my thoughts about this topic: >I've been inspired from some of the posts to this list, to expand the styles I use for my scrolls, albeit the majority of my creativity stems from my years in 'art school' (local colleges). Similar thing happened to me after I saw on the Internet a couple of SCA scribes' pages. Before that I've been just imitating some styles of manuscript making and the result looked more or less 'medieval' ;-) Now I am investigating different scripts and illuminations that would match them, I hope the results will appear on my web site soon in my works. > Scribing across the SCA is different depending on which Kingdom you're in, Lady Finnarwen... Based on what I've seen in the last 2 1/2 years I've been a member of this great Society, East Kingdom (eastern NY, parts of Canada, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, western PA; all of Connecticut, Massachusetts, Vermont, Maine, Rhode Island, New Jersey, and even some (all?) of Delaware) has a range of freedom for scrollmaking, within the usual rules -- there's a series of wordings to choose from for most scrolls, but this isn't to say that we can't make up our own wordings. As with the illumination, we have the option of which techniques we wish to use. Not all Kingdoms have these choices; others, due to availability of time and/or the ratio of scribes to non-scribes, provide "blank scrolls". These are pre-printed, in which the scribe paints in the line art (similar to a coloring book, only with better art than a coloring book), and the appropriate names where the blanks are, leaving the! > signature to the royals, as usual > Then you have the scribes who make their own pigments, inks, and anything else that can be made by hand, or just buy the materials at the local art shop. The whole process is as simple or as complicated as the scribe doing the work wishes to make it. Good for you. There are only few people in Polish medieval re-enactment, who care about something else than just having one change of medieval clothes and a sword. I can count several persons who are really interested in recreating some medieval craft, and I know only few scribes. Maybe it will change in the future, when more and more people will start treating all this as a hobby, not as a weekend activity. As I've been writing earlier to this list, there are two kinds of people in medieval re-enactment in Poland: first type are people like me, who spend most of their time and money on it, trying to make it all as acurate and historic as possible; second type are 'weekend knights and ladies', who do not care about plastic zippers, nylon, smoking cigarettes at the events, ect. And I do not expect them to change, but it seems that what does not work for a group of 500 people (in Poland), works for a group of several thousands (SCA) - I mean, the rules you decided upon are obeyed. Am I right? Regards, Finnarwen of Formendor Principality of Draconia (Joanna Zelazko Warsaw, Poland) =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 18:52:48 EST From: Fitchybear1@aol.com Subject: Re: [scribes]: Whimper and a question for Randy In a message dated 2/24/01 7:50:08 PM Pacific Standard Time, aliskye@pacbell.net writes: << There isn't a lot of room so I don't know if there is space to do anything fancy. (I wonder if James would notice if I just left the year off....oh! Hi Jim-Bear :) I'm having a scriptorium at my house tomorrow, so I'll let it sit on my drafting table until tomorrow and take a look in the morning and see if inspiration strikes. Thanks for the advice. cheers, aliskye lyondemere, Caid >> Even if I didn't notice, Crescent or Dolphin Herald would notice... I agree with Katerina on this one a period fix is a charming way to go how about a sleeping monk holding the string to a kite with the date on it or pulling the rope on a bell? Now for the question for Randy... hey Randy is Melody Asplund-Faith any relation to you? I read an article in Recreating History that lists her translation of an Itaian cooking manual as suggested reading... The article I was reading was on making field baking ovens.... JimBear (who though crabby that he can't see well enough to draw or paint right now is working on making brushes and styili for his "period kit") =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ End of scribes digest V5 #35 ****************************