From: owner-scribes@castle.org (scribes digest) To: scribes-digest@castle.org Subject: scribes digest V4 #94 Reply-To: Sender: owner-scribes@castle.org Errors-To: owner-scribes@castle.org Precedence: bulk scribes digest Monday, November 27 2000 Volume 04 : Number 094 ======================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with unsubscribe scribes-digets in the body of the message. Leave the subject line blank. Do not include any additional text. RE: [scribes]: vellum preparation RE: [scribes]: Inks ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 18:21:37 -0600 From: "Bronwyn Noble" Subject: RE: [scribes]: vellum preparation The chalk should brush away without leaving any sign of its existence; I'm not quite sure about the sandpaper, however -- It would depend on how deep the dye was able to sink. What I would try is sandpapering a small portion down at the bottom. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-scribes@castle.org [mailto:owner-scribes@castle.org]On Behalf Of Charlotte DuBose Sent: 26 November 2000 09:12 To: bronwyn@tds.net; Karin Weaver; Scribes List Subject: Re: [scribes]: vellum preparation How would you recommend pouncing a piece of vellum that has been dyed black??? Thanks in advance, Miriel > The oiliness of vellum can be counteracted, as John Cash, recommended, by > pouncing with chalk or marble dust. However, you should also use very fine > sandpaper on the skin side to "rough-up" the surface just a tad, otherwise > the vellum will not accept ink too well. If you are planning on gilding > anyplace, however, avoid using the sandpaper -- also remember that the > surface was not as extensively prepared (with gesso, etc) in the Byzantine > era as later on. > > =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 18:44:01 -0600 From: "Bronwyn Noble" Subject: RE: [scribes]: Inks Many of the special fountain pen inks are sort of waterproof, although certainly not to the degree that India ink is. On the other hand, I've never used anything but liquid sumi, which is highly non-waterproof. While you do run a chance of ruining things, since you are left-handed, I would strongly advise you to start with the Osmiroid. If you really don't want to use non-waterproof ink, Mitchell (probably the most frequently used nibs around here) does produce left-handed round-hand nibs. If you can't find them, let me know. I'll be happy to get them for you. Bronwyn ferch Gwyn ap Rhys (Bronwyn Noble) - -----Original Message----- From: owner-scribes@castle.org [mailto:owner-scribes@castle.org]On Behalf Of DC Sent: 26 November 2000 11:29 To: scribes@castle.org Subject: [scribes]: Inks I've just gotten an Osmiroid calligraphy set (left handed!) Is it true that one can only use non waterproof ink in such pens? Jus don't want to ruin it before really getting started with calligraphy studies. Thanks =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ End of scribes digest V4 #94 ****************************