From: owner-scribes@castle.org (scribes digest) To: scribes-digest@castle.org Subject: scribes digest V4 #45 Reply-To: Sender: owner-scribes@castle.org Errors-To: owner-scribes@castle.org Precedence: bulk scribes digest Friday, November 3 2000 Volume 04 : Number 045 ======================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with unsubscribe scribes-digets in the body of the message. Leave the subject line blank. Do not include any additional text. Re: [scribes]: joining the list serve Re: [scribes]: Libraries-who needs'em? (was: Libraries-what do you have) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 20:16:55 -0500 From: "Helen Schultz" Subject: Re: [scribes]: joining the list serve Responded privately.... KHvS - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karin Weaver" > I'd love to join this list serve. I'm a calligrapher in the SCA in the > Nashville TN area. Can you help? Thanks - Julian =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 22:04:11 -0400 From: wyverns Subject: Re: [scribes]: Libraries-who needs'em? (was: Libraries-what do you have) If you can remember common features - the shapes of leaves and vines, the basic spacing of the various features of a manuscript, the colors and degree of shading, I find that it becomes much easier to produce good, unique-but-period-styled scrolls more quickly and in the absence of a ready reference (say, in the middle of Pennsic), but I wouldn't encourage anyone to do a scroll that is to be documented (as for a competition) based entirely on memory. Visual memory is too unreliable, and at its best is limited to the degree to which you understood what you were looking at at the time you saw it. Later understanding or attention will NOT allow you to 'remember' things you didn't notice or understand the first time. Nor can most people 'adjust' a picture that is based on a memory - proportions, viewing angle, selective use of pieces - the way they can a picture that is sitting in front of them. It also depends on your area. I was in one apartment a few years ago with a library across the street - I would have had to interlibrary loan any of the scribal books, and then would have had to use them at the library within two weeks - okay to glance through, hard to study unless your schedule just happened to have time for long library time when the book fiiiiinnnnnallllly came, and impossible to check back to a month into a big project, when hands-on effort has finally made you more aware of some of the subtlties you missed the first time. I think How-to books are easier to use from memory - once I learn a technique, and have practiced it, I rarely go back to the source of the instruction until I want to try something different. ( I also don't go back to check calligraphy hands enough, but my hands tend to drift toward the generic and modern the longer I go without a refresher.) Enid Enid =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ End of scribes digest V4 #45 ****************************