From: owner-scribes@castle.org (scribes digest) To: scribes-digest@castle.org Subject: scribes digest V4 #5 Reply-To: Sender: owner-scribes@castle.org Errors-To: owner-scribes@castle.org Precedence: bulk scribes digest Friday, October 13 2000 Volume 04 : Number 005 ======================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with unsubscribe scribes-digets in the body of the message. Leave the subject line blank. Do not include any additional text. [scribes]: Re: Grisaille + Question Re: [scribes]: Quiet, and Scribal Boo Boos ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 05:43:07 -0700 (PDT) From: abbondanza Subject: [scribes]: Re: Grisaille + Question Although I found the original missive utterly fascinating and would like to try the ink-wash technique for the experience of it, I have to agree that this would be quite difficult to teach. Being the process-freak that I am the thought of doing a small piece using this technique gives me goose-bumps in anticipation of it all. Coming at Illumination from an oil-painting background has been a challenge in and of itself. Monochromatic painting with black, white and grays is often taught to facilitate the transition of drawing in pencil(monochromatic) to painting Having great skill as a draftsman (drawing) does not automatically grant you painting ability, this method of painting is a bridge from one avenue to another. I would love to paint a medieval portrait using egg tempera and a monochromatic technique, but, greys don't work with skin tones, the families of sienna and umber are more life-like Everything else could be done in greys and glazed over with color a lot like colorizing black and white photographs. Recent challenge to me: Do a portrait in period pigments Obstacle: Mixing pigments w/other pigments can be a no-no due to the instability of some combinations. I was given an excellent article from TI from THL Eibhlin which outlined one technique using period pigments in portrait work. Happy Experimenting, I say ;) There is a reason why portrait painting did not take off until the tail-end of "our period", especially in the French & Italian Renaissance era. I am currently researching this niche and would appreciate any information that the scribal community can share. Especially scribes who paint photo-realistic portraits, not miniatures, but portraits in award scrolls. Lady Antoinette of Stormsport Aethelmearc __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 09:33:55 -0400 From: John Stracke Subject: Re: [scribes]: Quiet, and Scribal Boo Boos sburnell@raex.com wrote: > Now, as for mistakes. Done that. Plenty of times. On my most recent scroll, I forgot to leave room for the blazon. I noticed it only after I'd finished the scroll. Wail, moan, gnash teeth. Wait a minute. This scroll is a two-page layout, with a wide gutter between the pages. I could fix it by cutting it in half and redoing the page with the mistake (which is straight text, no illumination to redo, so it's easy). So that's what I did--and matted the scroll to make sure the two pages wouldn't get separated. > And as for all those corrections made: Arches 140# hot press paper is > WONDEFUL stuff! Oh, yeah. I buy it in watercolor blocks, which means it stays still better than individual sheets. - -- /===============================================================\ |John Stracke | http://www.thibault.org |HTML OK | |Francois Thibault |==========================================| |East Kingdom |Amazing Fact: If there are three cats in a| |francis@thibault.org|room, they will form a triangle! | \===============================================================/ =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ End of scribes digest V4 #5 ***************************