From: owner-scribes@castle.org (scribes digest) To: scribes-digest@castle.org Subject: scribes digest V4 #1 Reply-To: Sender: owner-scribes@castle.org Errors-To: owner-scribes@castle.org Precedence: bulk scribes digest Thursday, October 12 2000 Volume 04 : Number 001 ======================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with unsubscribe scribes-digets in the body of the message. Leave the subject line blank. Do not include any additional text. [scribes]: Quiet Re: [scribes]: Quiet Re: [scribes]: Quiet Re: [scribes]: Quiet Re: [scribes]: Quiet, and Scribal Boo Boos Re: Re: [scribes]: Quiet - grisaille ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 22:16:50 -0500 From: "Helen Schultz" Subject: [scribes]: Quiet Hey all you scribes, why is it suddenly so quiet out there??? Is there a problem with the List?? KHvS =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 23:06:50 -0500 From: "Christine" Subject: Re: [scribes]: Quiet Well I don't know about anyone else, but I'm very very hard at work on a scroll. The only reason I'm on the net at all tonight is that I can never remember how the Royalty spells their name, so I have to keep checking it on the web site. You think after doing a dozen scrolls for a reign I would remember, but I have been very paranoid ever since I did a lovely scroll that had the King's name right but mentioned the Queen from his previous reign....:( It was, alas, unfixable. It was suggested to me that correcting the error on the page was perfectly period, but I felt it would be a rude gesture, perhaps suggesting it was an old scroll left lying around. Does anyone else share my paranoia about names, or is it just me.....? Or would you have just crossed out "Trixie of Green Sky" and written in "Quinella" ? (The names have been changed to protect the maligned) Eilianora Siobhan de Cassell Castel Rouge Northshield ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helen Schultz" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 10:16 PM Subject: [scribes]: Quiet > Hey all you scribes, why is it suddenly so quiet out there??? Is there a > problem with the List?? > > KHvS > > =================================================================== > To unsubscribe from this list, send email to > with a blank Subject: line and > unsubscribe scribes > in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in > the body. > =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 00:42:55 EDT From: Fitchybear1@aol.com Subject: Re: [scribes]: Quiet In a message dated 10/11/00 8:20:22 PM Pacific Daylight Time, meistern@netusa1.net writes: << Hey all you scribes, why is it suddenly so quiet out there??? Is there a problem with the List?? KHvS >> Busy scribbling! BTW the gentle who had questions regarding grisaille contact me for advice on technique-JimBear =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 00:42:39 -0400 From: wyverns Subject: Re: [scribes]: Quiet Your paranoia about names, especially royal names, is justified. A queen who shall remain nameless declined to use even a batch of promisories! that had her name spelled incorrectly, and couldn't be bothered to check whether they could be fixed (I am certain that most could have been without it looking too obvious, and they were, afterall, just promisories). ON the other hand, theres unfixable and unfixable. Sometimes it helps to think outside the limits of calligraphy. There have been times when I thought a recipients name was unfixable - and certainly beyond hope to do it with just calligraphy-based 'repair' - such as your long name/short name problem. But...I've fixed a couple such disasters by painting over the whole name (I think I did a thin layer of gesso first to prevent bleeding of the ink, then painted over that, leaving no white space at all) and making it one (somewhat tight) illuminated phrase-in-a-box. (In the case of a king and queen, you'd have to have enough space to squeeze in painted versions of each name; just one would look odd) (And one of those repair jobs turned out really well only to discover that I had made the scroll for the wrong award entirely, having misinterpretted an abbreviation...the badge was wrong , the text was wrong... sigh. But now I have a scroll always available for show and tell at demos;-)) Another time I forgot to include the recipients name in the text at all! But I improved the scroll as well as sneaking the name in by adding commentary (there is a more correct term but I can't recall it at the moment) between the lines of text - comments praising the kingdom, the royals, the service that earned the award, and the name that went with 'him' (so that it wasn't just the name). It looked more 'authentic' to have the commentary, added texture to an otherwise plain calligraphy hand, and solved the problem of the recipients name. And sometimes one just has to start over. Sigh. Enid =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 00:26:38 -0500 From: "Christine" Subject: Re: [scribes]: Quiet, and Scribal Boo Boos Well I haven't done that yet, but my all time best was when I put the recipient's name in as King, and had him give the actual King an Award of Arms for serving in the kitchen... Eilianora Siobhan de Cassell Castel Rouge Northshield > > Another time I forgot to include the recipients name in the text at all! > But I improved the scroll as well as sneaking the name in by adding > commentary (there is a more correct term but I can't recall it at the > moment) between the lines of text - comments praising the kingdom, the > royals, the service that earned the award, and the name that went with > 'him' (so that it wasn't just the name). It looked more 'authentic' to > have the commentary, added texture to an otherwise plain calligraphy > hand, and solved the problem of the recipients name. > > And sometimes one just has to start over. Sigh. > > Enid > =================================================================== > To unsubscribe from this list, send email to > with a blank Subject: line and > unsubscribe scribes > in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in > the body. > =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 08:55:30 +0200 From: "Hedwig Riebe" Subject: Re: Re: [scribes]: Quiet - grisaille Fitchybear1@aol.com schrieb am 12.10.00: > Busy scribbling! BTW the gentle who had questions regarding grisaille contact > me for advice on technique-JimBear > =================================================================== I'm very interested, too (jumping up and down in one spot). Why not do it on the list: Grisaille 101? Oriane Drachenwald _______________________________________________________________________ 1.000.000 DM gewinnen - kostenlos tippen - http://millionenklick.web.de IhrName@web.de, 8MB Speicher, Verschluesselung - http://freemail.web.de =================================================================== To unsubscribe from this list, send email to with a blank Subject: line and unsubscribe scribes in the body of the message. Do not include any additional text in the body. ------------------------------ End of scribes digest V4 #1 ***************************