From: owner-scribes@castle.org (scribes digest) To: scribes-digest@castle.org Subject: scribes digest V2 #999 Reply-To: Sender: owner-scribes@castle.org Errors-To: owner-scribes@castle.org Precedence: bulk scribes digest Thursday, August 12 1999 Volume 02 : Number 999 In this issue: Re: [scribes]: Invitation to a Charter Painting Party [scribes]: [Mid] Calligraphy-related question (fwd) Re: [scribes]: [Mid] Calligraphy-related question (fwd) Re: [scribes]: [Mid] Calligraphy-related question (fwd) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 12 Aug 99 10:47:38 PDT From: ercil@astrid.upland.ca.us (E. Howard-Wroth) Subject: Re: [scribes]: Invitation to a Charter Painting Party Hey, JimBear, Would you cook for us too? =) love, Astridhr snip > The bi-monthly charter painting party will be held at my home, from 10am snip > To whet your appetite -- Dinner will consist of: > Roasted Garlic & Herb Ravioli > Portobello Mushroom Stuffed Giant Ravioli > Alfredo Sauce > Tomato Basil Sauce > Salad with a Choice of Dressings > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 15:33:39 -0500 (CDT) From: Eloise Beltz-Decker Subject: [scribes]: [Mid] Calligraphy-related question (fwd) Forwarded from the Middlebridge. - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 14:44:36 -0500 From: Heather Bungard To: sca-middle@midrealm.org Subject: [Mid] Calligraphy-related question Greetings to all who walk the Middlebridge, from Heather of Shadowed Stars! I have a new email address, please note -- this means faster service. I just might re-subscribe to the Middlebridge again, but I'm not sure if that's a wise idea yet or not. Things are going well enough for me right now. I'm starting up with my calligraphy again, and I have a question I wanted to ask. (Note: I've never done callig in the SCA; I first learned how in an 8th grade art class, and I've been noodling with it ever since. There was a project I wanted to try, so now I'm brushing up my skills.) Anyway, my question: are there any scribes out there who've worked with embossing powder in their scrolls? I discovered it a few days ago in the craft section of a store, in with the rubber stamps. Apparently, instead of stamping with ink, you use an embossing fluid -- or you can draw with a marker that has embossing fluid instead of ink. While the fluid is wet, you dump powder onto the design, and shake off the excess. If any is still sticking where youdon't want it to be, you use a dry paintbrush or some such to remove that. Then, you take the powdered design and blow a heat gun over it -- or hold it over a toaster - -- and the powder melts together, and creates a raised surface. If you've ever seen a greeting card with the raised plastic lettering or design on the front cover, then you've seen an embossing powder in action. Today, I went into a craft store called Strictly Stamps, and asked them all kinds of things about embossing powders and how it was done. This is how I know all this. I also got to look at samples of embossing done in metallic colors. I've looked over some illumination techniques, and the idea of using gesso and gold leaf to light up my work -- as was done in period -- is a little intimidating. I was thinking about using an embossing pen to draw leaves or or outline capitals, and put some metallic gold powder on that, to simulate the raised effect that gesso provides. So. Are there any scribes out there that have tried this? If so, how did it work out? Did you like the effect, or would you prefer to stick to gold-ink pens, gold paint, and so forth? Commentary is eagerly sought. I still haven't re-subscribed to the Middlebridge, so please copy your answers to my private account at heather@lapa.net . If you know someone who's used these techniques, but doesn't have email, I wouldn't mind a telephone call -- but I'm not going to print it on a public list! Until I hear from y'all, thanks for your time and patience. Make prettythings! Heather of Shadowed Stars (living in Rivenstar and refusing to change her name) mka Heather Bungard From: Heather Bungard +--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+ to unsubscribe, send a message to `~-, ,-~`~-, ,-~`~-, ,-~`~-, ,-~` majordomo@midrealm.org with . | | | | | | | | 'unsubscribe sca-middle' as its body. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 17:03:14 -0500 (EST) From: john j cash Subject: Re: [scribes]: [Mid] Calligraphy-related question (fwd) Dear folks, Heather asks, "I've looked over some illumination techniques, and the idea of using gesso and gold leaf to light up my work -- as was done in period -- is a little intimidating. I was thinking about using an embossing pen to draw leaves or or outline capitals, and put some metallic gold powder on that, to simulate the raised effect that gesso provides. So. Are there any scribes out there that have tried this? If so, how did it work out? Did you like the effect, or would you prefer to stick to gold-ink pens, gold paint, and so forth?" I've never done it. My comment is different. To me, this crosses the line between what we should properly be doing, as medieval enthusiasts, and the work of professional illustrators. This is not to say we don't cross the line a lot already. But if I read you right, Heather, you want to do this technique not because this gives the same effect as gold, or even because it's easier, but because real gilding is intimidating. The easiest solution is not to do gold leaf or gold paint at all. What's wrong with that, folks? -- johannes v.n. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 18:35:54 -0400 From: Susan Arthur Subject: Re: [scribes]: [Mid] Calligraphy-related question (fwd) At 03:33 PM 8/12/99 -0500, Eloise Beltz-Decker wrote: > I've looked over some illumination techniques, and the idea of using >gesso and gold leaf to light up my work -- as was done in period -- is a >little intimidating. Why not try some of the metallic watercolors or inks? There are even a variety of shades; I am told that the gold tended to be a little pinker then than now. Or there than here, or something-- anyway you have a selection. >If so, how did it work >out? Did you like the effect, or would you prefer to stick to gold-ink >pens, gold paint, and so forth? What I have seen of the embossing did not particularly fool the eye-- it tended to have little bumps and not be a really smooth surface, which is the goal of raised gold leaf. Right, Eibhlin? ;> I understand your intimidation with gold leaf. I prefer to learn one thing at a time myself, so it took me a while to get around to gold leaf. Why not just try the paints first? Lucia =========================== Lady Lucia Bellini Companion of the Pearl House Flamingbolt Elvegast, Windmasters' Hill Guildmistress, Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium http://scribe.atlantia.sca.org/gallery/Lucia ------------------------------ End of scribes digest V2 #999 *****************************