From: owner-scribes@castle.org (scribes digest) To: scribes-digest@castle.org Subject: scribes digest V2 #183 Reply-To: Sender: owner-scribes@castle.org Errors-To: owner-scribes@castle.org Precedence: bulk scribes digest Thursday, July 23 1998 Volume 02 : Number 183 In this issue: Re: [scribes]: making your own pigments (fwd) Re: [scribes]: Definitions Re: [scribes]: PAINTFESTival of the Rose ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 15:39:09 -1000 From: Jan McEwen Subject: Re: [scribes]: making your own pigments (fwd) Forwarded for Mistress Miriel. Catriona - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jan McEwen, Educational Specialist, Urban Garden Center, Pearl City, Hawaii UH/College of Tropical Agriculture/Cooperative Extension Services SCA: Catriona Stewart of the Glens, Barony of the Western Seas, Caid Internet: jmcewen@hawaii.edu - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Catriona If people want to know about making verdigris, you can share my experience with them if you will. I took a short length of copper pipe and suspended it over white vinegar in a glass jar. I used ordinary twine, ran it through the pipe and kept it in place by screwing the lid on the jar over the ends of the twine (it was one of those squat, wide-mouthed types that salsa or artichoke hearts come in.) Every week or so, I would uncap the jar and scrape the greenish residue off the pipe with a palette knife onto a piece of waxed paper from whence I would dump it into one of the small glass spice jars I keep pigment in. I did not bother to bury it in dung; it may be that Western Seas is just naturally humid and and warm enough, especially in the back of Palolo Valley. I did start out with warm vinegar (okay, I nuked it),but as it sits there for days and cools down anyhow, I don't know how much difference that made. This made a very nice verdigris powder, which does need to be ground (I used a mortar and pestle) and I believe I tempered it with vinegar and gum. I think Cenninni recommends the vinegar, and if you temper vinegar and egg you end up with omelette. I did anyway, but not one I'd want to eat. CAVEAT: be careful not to let the copper pipe fall down into the vinegar when you take the lid off, it wrecks the lovely accumulating pigment. This pigment is toxic and I always wore plastic gloves when I handled it although I don't bother if I am painting with it. Miriel ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 22:26:12 -0500 From: randyaf@provide.net (Randy & Melody Asplund-Faith) Subject: Re: [scribes]: Definitions >Randy, >I've been perusing your pages again - and I have a couple of questions >for you. >You mention using genuine Vermillion in your piece "Beatus Vir". How do >you find that it holds up over time? Is it Winsor & Newton Vermillion? >Do you have any detailed pictures or notes about the Ivory styluses? >I'd love to carve one, if I can find out more about the specifications. >Thanks! >-Pete- >Gwer Rychen von Bern I have had zero problems with the vermillion which was given to me by a chemist as Mercuric sulfide. I tempered it in glair. The stylus on my website is made of soup bone. Cow leg. It was made to resemble ones seen in various photos of the same, but I have seen real ones since, and it is right on. Make it about the same diameter as a pencil and about as long as your finger, if not a bit longer. Cut the back as a chisel shape for a stylus, or as a ball for a ruling pin pricker/drypoint scribe. The point is a piece of sharpened wire (I used a nail brad) which is set by friction and glue into a drilled hole. Ranthulfr Asparlundr Randy Asplund-Faith Science Ficion & Fantasy Illustration 2101 S. Circle Dr. Ann Arbor, MI. 48103 (734) 663-0954 http://www.provide.net/~randyaf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 22:19:50 -0600 From: Holly and Jake Gassel Subject: Re: [scribes]: PAINTFESTival of the Rose Curtis & Mary wrote: > > FITCHYBEAR@aol.com wrote: > > > > For those of you who asked to be kept informed of Caid's scribal community's > > attempts "to go public" and get people envolved in scribing here goes: > > [snipped very interesting happenings.] > > As Atenveldt Kingdom Scribe [Silver Quill Pursuivant to be heraldically > correct} I am always interested in finding new ways to get more > scribes. I do this sort of thing whenever possible at various events. > However, I have also been wondering; once I read about another kingdom > having an annual Heraldic & Scribal symposia, similar to the Knowne > World one, but an annual kingdom event. Does anyone else do this? Yes, > we have an annual Kingdom Collegium, but there never seems to be enough > time to take all the classes you want, so having one with a fairly > narrow focus seems like a good idea. :-) What do you guys think? > > Mairi, Atenveldt Aidan here. I believe both Calontir and the Outlands have annual (or maybe twice a year?) Heralds and Scribes Symposiums. Ms. Aidan ------------------------------ End of scribes digest V2 #183 *****************************