From: owner-scribes@castle.org (scribes digest) To: scribes-digest@castle.org Subject: scribes digest V2 #171 Reply-To: Sender: owner-scribes@castle.org Errors-To: owner-scribes@castle.org Precedence: bulk scribes digest Sunday, July 19 1998 Volume 02 : Number 171 In this issue: [scribes]: Zig Pens& Arabic Script [scribes]: Lettering Guide "Illumination" [scribes]: Dirty Tricks Fwd: [scribes]: Dirty Tricks ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 19:59:54 PDT From: "Russell Husted" Subject: [scribes]: Zig Pens& Arabic Script Dear Aislynn, I was at an event today in Torre with Curstaidh Magorlick. I told her about the discussion here about zig pens and let her play with one. She would appriciate it if you could speak to Mistress Lasair about the pens and see if they meet with her approval. She would first like to know if they could be used instead of rapidograph, and whether the white can be used for white lining. Just to clarify: Zig Memory System :Millennium. They come in a variety of sizes from as small as 005 to as large as a 1. They also come in a variety of color.They read: Pigment Ink• Acid Free• Archival Quality• Lightfast• Waterproof• Non-bleeding - -They can be found in the section where they sell memory books and photo albums of your local craft store. - - - - Curstaidh also asked me to pass on the fact that I am here writing scrolls that look like they are in arabic. They are close enough that a person who reads arabic might easily get confused. I once lived in Saudi Arabia, and although I can not translate into arabic, I can write the language quite well. I am not sure what you are doing that this will be of interrest, but I am passing it along as requested. Thank you very much Maithgen (Maheen) Torre de los Brazos, Ansteorra Russell Husted ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 23:19:25 -0400 (EDT) From: hollis@slic.com Subject: [scribes]: Lettering Guide "Illumination" Dear Scribes, Finally! A chance to do something useful! Being a packrat of the first order, I still have the destructions from my Ames guide when I bought it... (Makes me sound older than 17, doesn't it :). Here, without further ado, is the fascinating and witty explanation of "How to Use the Ames Lettering Guide", brought to you by the number e and the language C. Please excuse any typos, it's late, I just got back from visiting Bucknell, Swarthmore, Princeton, and Middlebury, and I'm typing fast. I assume that most of the diagrams are fairly self-explanatory; however, if someone really needs it, I can scan them in and post them or send them out individually. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The Ames Lettering Guide offers many time-saving opportunities for the engineer, architect, draftsman, etc. With your Ames Lettering Guide it is possible to draw guide lines and slope lines for lettering from 1/16" to 2" in height. Disc numbers from 10 to 2 denote the height of letters in thirty-seconds of an inch. If 1/4" high letters are required, simply rotate the disc so that the 8 is at the frame index mark. See Fig. 1. (8/32" = 1/4") To turn the disc clockwise, hold the frame in the upper left corner and rotate the disc with the right hand. To turn the disc counterclockwise, hold the frame in the upper right corner and rotate the disc with the left hand. USES OF COLUMN WITH EQUALLY SPACED HOLES: This column of holes (second from right) is perhaps the most versatile since it results in uniformly spaced lines. every other hold in this column is equivalent to the disc number setting. When set at 8, the distance from 1st to 3rd hoe is 1/4". The middle hole in each set of 3 guidelines assists in upper-case letters such as B, E, F, H, P, etc. Use a sharpened 4H or harder drawing pencil and place the GUIDE, readable side up, against the top of the straight-edge. Place the pencil in the top hole. Keep the pencil perpendicular to the paper and slightly inclined in the direction of travel. With the pencil in the top hole slide the GUIDE to the right, lightly drawing the line and keeping the base in contact with the straight-edge until the terminal point has been reached. Now move the pencil down hole by hole, alternately moving the GUIDE to the left and then to the right. You now have one set of 3 huide lines 1/4" high. To draw two more sets repeat the procedure using the remaining holes in this column. If no middle guide line is desired, for 1/8" lettering use the same 8 setting. If 3/32" or 1/16" heights are desired with no middle guide line use the 6 or 4 setting respectively at the bottom of the disc or use the index mark on the disc (near the 2/3 fraction) and set the disc at the desired mark on the frame. CROSS-SECTIONING: For parallel lines needed for such purposes as section lines, profile, brick, tile, concrete block, music staff, etc., set the index mark on the disc (near the 2/3 fraction) at the desired mark on the frame (1/8, 3/32, or 1/16). Set your straight-edge parallel to the desired lines and draw lines alternately to the right and left. FOUR GUIDE LINES: To aid in forming lower case letters such as g, j, p, q, and y, use a 4th guide line. Use the top, 2nd, 4th, and 5th holes. See Fig. 1. If two sets of guidelines are required, use the 7th, 8th, 10th and bottom holes. NUMBERS AND FRACTIONS: See Fig. 1 for size of fractions in relation to whole numbers. GUIDE LINES IN METRIC (mm): The numbers and set of 6 holes in the extreme left column of holes on the disc relate to metric heights for guidelines. See Fig. 2. This column of 6 holes offers the draftsman the option of spacing the guide lines equally (right brackets) or at "half space" (left brackets). The 3.08, 6.1, and 9.75 millimeter calibrations are for standard letter heights used in U.S. drawings. By setting 3.08 opposite the left frame index M the spacing will be .12". Similarly, setting 6.1 and 9.75 opposite M will give .24" and .38" high guide lines respectively. Other metric heights are also calibrated on the disc for use if desired. TWO-THIRDS RATIO COLUMN OF HOLES: In the column of holes marked 2/3 (See Fig. 3), the body of the lower case letters will be 2/3 that of capitals. This ratio is the Reinhardt System. To draw guide lines 3/16" high, set the disc at 6 opposite the bottom frame index mark (6/32" = 3/16"). Begin by placing the pencil point in the second hole from the top. Draw guide lines as mentioned before by moving the GUIDE alternately right to left and back, moving the pencil down hole by hole. You now have a set of 3 guide lines 3/16" high. To draw 2 more sets, repeat the procedure useig the rest of the holes in the 2/3 column. Note that each set of 3 holes are grouped by elliptical lines. To draw more than three sets of guide lines, move the straight-edge and GUIDE down until the top hole in the 2/3 column coincides with the bottom line of the last set of guide lines. DO NOT USE THIS TOP HOLE. The top hole is only to give proper spacing between lines when the GUIDE must be moved. Place the pencil in the second hole and draw lines as before. THREE-FIFTHS COLUMN OF HOLES: In the 3/5 column, the body of lower case letters will be 3/5 that of capitals. See left-hand portion of Fig. 3. This ratio is usually used by Civil Engineers. To use this column proceed identically as discussed in the section on the 2/3 column of holes. 1/8" SPACED HOLES ON LEFT-HAND SIDE OF FRAME: These holes may be used for title blocks, grid lines, section lining, dimension line spacing and spacing from 0 to 2", but n 1/8" increments only. SYMBOL ON RIGHT-HAND SIDE OF FRAME: Used for ANSI control surface finish mark, "new style" finish mark, short leader and arrow line for welding symbol. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Hope this helps. Hollis - ---------------------------- Hollis Easter hollis@slic.com http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/2436/ "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world: indeed, it's the only thing that ever has." -- Margaret Mead, anthropologist - ---------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 23:08:15 -0600 From: Holly and Jake Gassel Subject: [scribes]: Dirty Tricks Greetings list-folks! Aidan here. I have had a private request for info on the dirty tricks we scribes use....like the light table etc, only sneakier. Care to start a new thread??? Aidan the Agitator.... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 02:55:50 EDT From: Aralyn67@aol.com Subject: Fwd: [scribes]: Dirty Tricks This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --part0_900831350_boundary Content-ID: <0_900831350@inet_out.mail.aol.com.1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII - --part0_900831350_boundary Content-ID: <0_900831350@inet_out.mail.aol.com.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline From: Aralyn67@aol.com Return-path: To: ulfaidan@unm.edu Subject: Re: [scribes]: Dirty Tricks Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 02:55:07 EDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 98-07-19 01:15:04 EDT, you write: > Greetings list-folks! Aidan here. I have had a private request for info > on the dirty tricks we scribes use....like the light table etc, only > sneakier. Care to start a new thread??? > > Aidan the Agitator.... > I get bored drawing all those little leaves on Bar & Ivy scrolls so I made myself a template using the plastic stuff quilters use for their templates. I drew an assortment of shapes and sizes of my favorite leaves and cut them out with a stencil xacto blade. Huge time saver. Aralyn - --part0_900831350_boundary-- ------------------------------ End of scribes digest V2 #171 *****************************