From: owner-scribes@castle.org (scribes digest) To: scribes-digest@castle.org Subject: scribes digest V2 #149 Reply-To: Sender: owner-scribes@castle.org Errors-To: owner-scribes@castle.org Precedence: bulk scribes digest Friday, July 10 1998 Volume 02 : Number 149 In this issue: Re: [scribes]: Re: A & S advice Re: [scribes]: neat pens [scribes]: Dip Pens [scribes]: Request for sample scroll information ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 17:03:11 -0600 From: Holly and Jake Gassel Subject: Re: [scribes]: Re: A & S advice EowynA@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 7/8/98 10:06:08 PM, hughesjp@fyi.net wrote: > > << The piece that is impressive > because of its adherence to period techniques and its attention to detail > will usually be passed over with preference given to the flashy fantasy > piece. I've seen both of these outcomes more often than any kind of > well-reasoned judging in such competitions. >> > > Sometimes. But the "People's Prize" competition last month at Queen's > Champion (and we don't actually have such competitions particularly often, so > it was a nice change of pace) awarded the prize to the scroll on vellum, done > with dry pigments ground into a binder (egg? or gum water?) and gold, done in > the style of one of those late Italian mss. (I forget which one) --- quite > authentic, and yes, > quite flashy, too. In fact, if I recall aright, all the scribal entries were > quite reasonable facsimiles of authentic artifacts. A good showing, overall. > > So sometimes the authentic recreation does win the prize. There is hope. > > Eowyn Amberdrake, Caid The T4T thing I mentioned earlier was sort of a "fun" thing, not set up for any particular purpose other than to get people to bring stuff out to demo, and to get the populace to look at it. Pieces were anonymous when on display/during voting, so as to eliminate the "popularity contest" aspect. Ane yes, there was a problem with voting for the "ooh pretty" rather than the "oooh authentic", but I think we served the purpose of getting folks out and doing stuff. Normally here, at tourneys there is just tourney stuff so ANY A&S was a switch. Just a thought. Aidan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 19:29:04 EDT From: FITCHYBEAR@aol.com Subject: Re: [scribes]: neat pens In a message dated 98-07-09 16:03:15 EDT, brownwell@home.com writes: << Well, James, you *could* mix them if they were still wet! If they are mixable/spreadable after they've dried, then we can be sure that they are not waterproof. >> point of fact is she said with a wet brush not blend them while wet....which would bring me to the conclusion that the ink was dry and the brush was wet as one would be able to blend with a dry brush too-JimBear ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 19:14:34 -0700 From: Aslyn Crystyn Subject: [scribes]: Dip Pens Hi Ya'll! Thomas Brownwell wrote (snipped): > Greetings one and all, and especially Miri. > > Why would one load a nib with a brush (or in my case, an eye-dropper)? Well, it > boils down to control of 1) where the ink goes and 2) how much gets there...... > > Personally I use a small 1 ounce dropper bottle that I got years ago filled with > Higgins ink. Any of the small bottles that commercial Technical Pen inks come > in will work (they *have to* have the dropper), and as they are re-fillable they > are a great deal. An eye-dropper will also work just fine though you have to > worry about cleaning it off carefully at the end of a job...... I use a dip pen without a reservoir. I use a dropper bottle to puddle ink in the same type of wells I use to mix gouache (not the same ones, of course). I have a scrap of paper beside the wells, and a good quality paper towel (i.e., not a lot of fluff coming off) in my lap. I use a little bit of spit (sorry so graphic) to wet a bit of the paper towel. I dip the nib into the ink, stroke the nib on the paper a couple of times to get the excess off, and callig. When I am running out of ink, I use the wet part of the paper towel to clean the nib, and start the process all over again. To date (and it's been a while) I have had no problems with fibers getting in the nib (especially because the paper towel is somewhat damp), and this process does cause me to slow down. Caution: this is what works for me. Everyone has his or her own style. And, if you ask any of the folks who know me, I tend to do lots of things backwards and weird. This technique is also somewhat difficult in keeping a rhythm going. But, again, it works for me. Carpe Frommage! Lady Aslyn Crystyn Ansteorra ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 01:02:35 -0400 (EDT) From: hollis@slic.com Subject: [scribes]: Request for sample scroll information Dear Scribes, I'm not a scadian (yet), but I'm interested in trying my hand at a scroll to see what you guys think of it... If anyone has a set of requirements for a scroll that they've already done, could you (they?) forward it to me so I could try one out at home? Thanks, Hollis - ---------------------------- Hollis Easter hollis@slic.com http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/2436/ "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world: indeed, it's the only thing that ever has." -- Margaret Mead, anthropologist - ---------------------------- ------------------------------ End of scribes digest V2 #149 *****************************