From: owner-scribes@castle.org (scribes digest) To: scribes-digest@castle.org Subject: scribes digest V2 #122 Reply-To: Sender: owner-scribes@castle.org Errors-To: owner-scribes@castle.org Precedence: bulk scribes digest Monday, June 29 1998 Volume 02 : Number 122 In this issue: Re: [scribes]: Calligraphy fonts Re: [scribes]: Technical Pen vs. Crowquill RE: [scribes]:How to hold the arm?(was printed text?) [scribes]: Up or Down? [scribes]: Anathema! [scribes]: EK: Silly Scribal Poem. Re: [scribes]: Anathema! Re: [scribes]: Anathema! Re: [scribes]: Anathema! Re: [scribes]: EK: Silly Scribal Poem. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 11:24:50 EDT From: FITCHYBEAR@aol.com Subject: Re: [scribes]: Calligraphy fonts In a message dated 98-06-29 02:47:29 EDT, brownwell@home.com writes: << Laurel (German equivalent), who has a cross "Fitchy" and has in past-times claimed to be a "Fitchy-Bear". >> hey that's my croos to bear.....JimBear :) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 09:17:46 -0700 From: "Carolyn Richardson" Subject: Re: [scribes]: Technical Pen vs. Crowquill I usually will use whatever I think is better for the job. If I'm fine lining on calligraphy, I'll usually use a crowquill. For outlining illumination I'll use a technical pen. On illumination itself I generally will use a 10/0 brush. I think the key is use whatever works for you. Tetchubah of Greenlake, Caid ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 10:48:17 -0700 From: Karen Williams Subject: RE: [scribes]:How to hold the arm?(was printed text?) Anna de Byxe asks: >should you move >your whole arm so that the angle of the pen is more constant or doesn't it >matter. It's important that you move either your whole arm or the paper you're writing on, if you want to maintain the angle of the pen (hence the regularity of the letters). This is a very simple thing to do, and makes all the difference. Branwen ferch Emrys ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 14:03:13 -0400 (EDT) From: randyaf@provide.net (Randy & Melody Asplund-Faith) Subject: [scribes]: Up or Down? I have not had much of anything coming in for a while and I was wondering if the list is down or you folks are just out enjoying the weather? Ranthulfr Randy Asplund-Faith Science Ficion & Fantasy Illustration 2101 S. Circle Dr. Ann Arbor, MI. 48103 (734) 663-0954 http://www.provide.net/~randyaf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 13:28:21 -0700 From: Carolyn_Richardson@cch.com Subject: [scribes]: Anathema! I *finally* got a copy of this book - Bibliofind came through on one in Massachusetts and it arrived from UPS today. It's in absolutely perfect condition, hardbound, and was $35. Doing the happy dance :-) Tetchubah of Greenlake, Caid ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 16:32:29 -0400 From: Donna Kenton Subject: [scribes]: EK: Silly Scribal Poem. You'll enjoy this. Forwarded from the EK list... >Got a pointer to this one, from Laurel Queen. Kinda funny. I was going to >show it to some co-workers, but I'd spend more time explaining than they >would laughing. > >Who says the SCA isn't a sub-culture with its own language? > >http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/scribal/talkie.html > > Tibor Rosalind ____________________________________________________________________________ Lady Rosalind De Witte/Donna Kenton * donna@dabbler.com * http://www.dabbler.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 13:50:38 -0700 From: "Thomas Brownwell" Subject: Re: [scribes]: Anathema! What is "Anathema" (other than the dictionary definition)? And how does one access Bibliofind? - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Douglas Brownell AKA Thomas Brownwell, Calligrapher, brownwell@home.com Dancer,Silversmith,Singer,Cobbler,... San Diego, CA Barony of Calafia, Caid The 4 elements = good physics stuff:: Or,a fountain, a chief rayonny gules. Goutte enough herald:: (Fieldless) A goutte barry wavy azure and argent. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 16:20:24 -0500 From: "Helen Schultz (KHvS)" Subject: Re: [scribes]: Anathema! Hello Thomas, "Anathema!" is a book by Marc Drogin that delves into the colophons and curses of Medieval scribes. It is a fun little book. I use mine often to give some really great meaning to scrolls for scribes in the Middle Kingdom. I can't help you with Bibliofind, but I'd bet someone else can. Meisterin Katarina Helene von Schoenborn (from work -- only 45 minutes to go!) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 14:42:46 -0700 From: "Carolyn Richardson" Subject: Re: [scribes]: Anathema! >>What is "Anathema" (other than the dictionary definition)? And how does one access Bibliofind?<< "Anathema" is the *other* Marc Drogin book that concerns book curses and their histories. Gives some truly wonderful examples of them. I had borrowed Eowyn's copy years ago and have been wistfully hunting for it ever since (I couldn't afford the darn thing when it was actually in print, which it apparently isn't anymore). Bibliofind can be accessed at www.bibliofind.com - they're a book search website just like Interloc and Abebooks. Type in the name of the book (or keywords) and whatever else you have info on and hit "search". If one of their dealers has it online it will come back as a positive with contact information for that dealer. Otherwise you can add it to your personal "want" list and when someone gets it in and posts it to the Bibliofind database, it will send you a message letting you know (this is how I got mine - I put in the request 2 months ago). Tetchubah of Greenlake, Caid ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 17:28:23 -0500 (EST) From: john j cash Subject: Re: [scribes]: EK: Silly Scribal Poem. This is my own poem, recalled to mind by postings on pen angles etc. It is meant to be sung to the tune "The Game of Cards," as performed by maddie Prior and friend on the "Silly Sisters" album from at least ten years ago. Feel free to change the genders. I went to town to buy skins at the stationers; There a fair maiden I happened to meet; Her hair was like satin, her eyes like the starlight -- But Oh! with what grace she wrote out my receipt! She said the last scribe from whom she'd taken lessons Knew little, taught less, and just wasted her time. I said such lessons need not be so cursive, And considered such treatment a capital crime. With me as a tutor she'd fare so much better, Expert instruction is what she'd receive. She said she'd pay back such lessons with Interest -- We planned a lesson for that very eve. She came after vespers; we started with basics: The proper position for holding the quill. Make your strokes firmly, but don't squeeze the nib too tight -- She made them evenly and with a will. I praised the elegant curves of her majuscules; Such round and full ones I seldom had spied. She said she'd heard *mine* described in such glowing terms She must discover if it were a lie. She said my ascender fit well in her ductus, But thought that in layout she wasn't the best. I said her proportions could not be imporved on, And she had a charming, demure little "S". We performed exercises in knotwork and ligatures -- (Students so eager are such a delight) -- She said she felt that we needed more practice, So we foliated far into the night. Now full often since she's come to my assistance When the scrolls are piled high and I've needed a rest. So be not too cursive when teaching a novice, Or you'll meet with only -- Initial success! johannes v.n. ------------------------------ End of scribes digest V2 #122 *****************************