From: owner-scribes@castle.org (scribes digest) To: scribes-digest@castle.org Subject: scribes digest V2 #1089 Reply-To: Sender: owner-scribes@castle.org Errors-To: owner-scribes@castle.org Precedence: bulk scribes digest Wednesday, September 22 1999 Volume 02 : Number 1089 In this issue: Re: [scribes]: Facsimile book RE: Re: [scribes]: Facsimile book [scribes]: Re: Glair [scribes]: red paint [was]Re: Facsimile book [scribes]: Re: binding Raphael's gift-book ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 05:52:21 EDT From: RTatro4084@aol.com Subject: Re: [scribes]: Facsimile book I think that the suggestion of having several scribes do pages for a book is a wonderful idea. We have a talented book binder here in the East - Master Ohashi Katsutoshi. If I begged and pleaded hard enough I might be able to convince him to do it. As far as talented scribes, I can think of a dozen here in the East just off the top of my head. I'm sure people in other kingdoms can do the same thing. Is there someone who'd be willing to coordinate the details? Size of the pieces, deadlines, etc? Do we want to specify materials? Period pigments versus gouache? Style? Period? I tend to think a range of styles would be most interesting, but it wouldn't really resemble a Book of Hours that way. Does that matter? Opinions? Katherine Stanhope East Kingdom Tyger Clerk of the Signet ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 05:14:09 -0700 From: sburnell@raex.com Subject: RE: Re: [scribes]: Facsimile book - --- Original Message --- "Peter B. Steiner" Wrote on Wed, 22 Sep 1999 01:06:08 -0400 ------------------ >"Oh dear....what can the matter be?" >Oh yes.....I was about to name a name. We who are about to >die salute you. >Randy must be involved. There, Randy. I've said it. You >may now dispatch me >at your convenience. Oh! Took the words right out of my mouth! I was going to name the same name!! Randy, Johannes, Peter, shall I fall on my sword now? ;-) Lady Saradwen Ariandalen Marche of Gwyntarian (Akron/Kent, OH) Midrealm - ----- Sent using MailStart.com ( http://MailStart.Com/welcome.html ) The FREE way to access your mailbox via any web browser, anywhere! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 08:40:44 EDT From: RenScribe@aol.com Subject: [scribes]: Re: Glair In a message dated 9/21/99 6:43:25 PM, jennet@sprintmail.com writes: >Dear Scribes >I have stored some glair in the refrigerator for about 6 to 7 months. >What if I took it >out and let it stand at room temperature for several days before I use >it. I have used >refrigerated glair before and it worked fine. Is it too late or should >I start a new >batch and leave it out until it smells evil? Or should I leave it in the >frig til I use >it. > >Jennet That's pretty much what I used to do. I'd keep the glair in the fridge and just pull it out when I wanted to use it. I'd throw it out if it got cloudy. With this last batch, I just put the bottle in my scribal box when I was done with it. It's the same stuff I used on the County scroll/book. Although it had been kept in the fridge early in the project, it's been sitting out for at least 6 months now. It handles much better than the refrigerated stuff. I don't know how much of that is due to age and how much is due to temperature. Just out of curiosity.....How does old refrigerated glair handle? I know the fresher stuff seemed a lot thicker and handled differently than the aged glair. Eibhlin ni Chaoimh AEthelmearc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 09:22:50 EDT From: RenScribe@aol.com Subject: [scribes]: red paint [was]Re: Facsimile book In a message dated 9/22/99 1:11:25 AM, petersdiner@yahoo.com writes: >Vermilion, safely >handled, I find an acceptable risk - and no more dangerous >than the >Cadmiums you no doubt have in your paint box. I worry more >about my >mercury amalgam fillings than about my mercury sulphide >paint. >The trick is finding genuine Vermilion in the >legally-trepidatious >'90's. (I have some old Winsor & Newton stashed >away....don't tell the >lawyers.) I have some vermilion that I bought from Master John a couple of years ago. Before I could use it, it turned colors. The vial now looks like one of those magic sand bottles that children make at fairs. There are bands of red, orange, light orange, and brown. Vermilion is a very unstable color. Even more now than in period. From those I've talked to, all that I've read and seen, I've pretty much resigned myself to using other types of red. I have several vials of Alizarin Lake and I just picked up a vial of a pH sensitive Lac Resin at Pennsic. What other pigments do scribes use for red when making a period paint? Gee, and to think this love of period pigments all started when I came up with the Kool-aid and glair children's activity. :-) Eibhlin ni Chaoimh AEthelmearc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 08:42:53 -0500 (EST) From: john j cash Subject: [scribes]: Re: binding Raphael's gift-book Dear folks, Katherine Stanhope has tossed out the name of someone to bind a proposed gift-book (made of individual leaves) for Raphael. Considering that Raphael is a collector, and knows a lot of folks who buy and sell medieval books, perhaps one of us who is seeking some connections to pursue bookbinding as a career might be chosen. Who knows bookbinding and wants a good reference? -- johannes v.n. ------------------------------ End of scribes digest V2 #1089 ******************************