From: owner-scribes@castle.org (scribes digest) To: scribes-digest@castle.org Subject: scribes digest V2 #73 Reply-To: Sender: owner-scribes@castle.org Errors-To: owner-scribes@castle.org Precedence: bulk scribes digest Friday, June 12 1998 Volume 02 : Number 073 In this issue: Re: [scribes]: Lindesfarne Pigments (longish) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 21:23:05 -0300 From: Guy & Sharon Campbell Subject: Re: [scribes]: Lindesfarne Pigments (longish) Good evening, good gentles, all. Since someone else asked about this,too, I am sending this to the list as a whole....hoping that someone who knows more about it than I do will also answer. :~) >To: "Thomas Brownwell" >From: Guy & Sharon Campbell >Subject: Re: [scribes]: Lindesfarne Pigments > >Hi there, my good Lord. Please bear with me if I mess up on computer etiquette....my brother's the computer person..... > >At 09:17 98/06/11 -0700, you wrote: > >>Greetings one and all > >Greetings to you, too. > >> >>I've finished penning in all of the black outlines for a Celtic scroll with tons >>of knotwork, > >congrats! > > and I'm at the end of my general knowledge. I intend to do the >>painting myself but have no idea what are the appropriate colors to use, and >>while I could guess I'd rather do it right. I want to use the color scheme from >>Lindesfarne, which seems to be limited to 4 colors: red/orange, blue, green and >>yellow. I have a huge set of Windsor-Newton gouaches. What colors should I >>use? > >I am sitting here with a copy of Janet Backhouse's book on the Lindisfarne Gospels. She has included colour plates in it. As I am unfamiliar with Windsor-Newton gouache colour names, we'll hope that someone else chimes in, but in case they don't.... > >The red-orange is probably vermilion. The blues I see, I would describe as cornflower...almost ultramarine but with a greyish cast. Green ranges from Kelly (a clear, mid-range, warm green) to the colour of pacific jade. Most of the yellow is a warm golden colour, sometimes edging into orange. Other colours in evidence are brick red, magenta, black, cream, naples yellow, various shades of brown, an actual red, cranberry, an orange that might be a pale/faded vermilion, and a light turquoise/blue-green/pale teal colour...more green that a turquoise is, not so dark as teal, too blue for jade.... There is also a purple the colour of grape lenonade. >> >>Also: >> >>Do I need to add gum arabic to the gouache (I'm used to doing so for my pen >>work...)? Is it appropriate to use pure white anywhere, and if so, which one >>(titanium, zinc, etc.)? Finally, which black (jet, ivory, etc.) would be most >>similar to those in the original for outlining the knots, etc. >> > >I saw no evidence of white paint...white bits were just left unpainted as far as I can tell. I can't tell which black is closest, sorry. The dots around letters and stuff seem to all be vermilion. As for the gum arabic being added to the gouache, ???????? As I said, I am unfamiliar with the paints you are using, so I don't know whether that would be necessary. You might want to try some bits of paint on a scrap of whatever kind of paper (or whatever) the scroll is done on, and see how it acts when/as it dries. If it flakes off, add gum, I guess. You might also try adding a wee bit of egg yolk and water to some paint in a pallette and see how it works for you...it might look closer to the way you want it to. What would be your reason for adding the gum arabic to the gouache? Perhaps I am missing something? > >>My thanks in advance. >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>Douglas Brownell AKA Thomas Brownwell, Calligrapher, >>brownwell@home.com Dancer,Silversmith,Singer,Cobbler,... >>San Diego, CA Barony of Calafia, Caid >>The 4 elements = good physics stuff:: Or,a fountain, a chief rayonny gules. >>Goutte enough herald:: (Fieldless) A goutte barry wavy azure and argent. >> >You are very welcome to any knowledge I have on the subject. If you have any further questions on it, let me know....but I still hope someone with experience with your kind of gouache, and, even better, more experience as a scribe than I have, will also answer your request for information. > >Hugs > >Lady Felicity Blindshooter of Wolfsgate (mka Tamatha-Lynn Campbell) >in the (finally) Incipient (yay!!!) Canton of Mycghalh (and there was much rejoicing!) ------------------------------ End of scribes digest V2 #73 ****************************