From: owner-scribes@castle.org (scribes digest) To: scribes-digest@castle.org Subject: scribes digest V2 #72 Reply-To: Sender: owner-scribes@castle.org Errors-To: owner-scribes@castle.org Precedence: bulk scribes digest Thursday, June 11 1998 Volume 02 : Number 072 In this issue: [scribes]: mail via castle is flowing again [scribes]: Lindesfarne Pigments [scribes]: pearl silver [scribes]: Palladium Re: [scribes]: Lindesfarne Pigments ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 08:21:23 -0700 From: Lee Damon Subject: [scribes]: mail via castle is flowing again Some tweeks are still needed in the configuration (in other words, the link isn't encrypted yet), but otherwise mail seems to be flowing fine again. There may be some additional delays while we work on encrypting the link. They'll most likely be unannounced but brief. Sorry about the delay(s), nomad - ------------ - Lee "nomad" Damon - \ play: nomad@castle.org or castle!nomad \ work: nomad@qualcomm.com \ http://people.qualcomm.com/nomad/ /\ Seneschal, Castle PAUS. / \ "Celebrate Diversity" / \ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 09:17:45 -0700 From: "Thomas Brownwell" Subject: [scribes]: Lindesfarne Pigments Greetings one and all I've finished penning in all of the black outlines for a Celtic scroll with tons of knotwork, and I'm at the end of my general knowledge. I intend to do the painting myself but have no idea what are the appropriate colors to use, and while I could guess I'd rather do it right. I want to use the color scheme from Lindesfarne, which seems to be limited to 4 colors: red/orange, blue, green and yellow. I have a huge set of Windsor-Newton gouaches. What colors should I use? Also: Do I need to add gum arabic to the gouache (I'm used to doing so for my pen work...)? Is it appropriate to use pure white anywhere, and if so, which one (titanium, zinc, etc.)? Finally, which black (jet, ivory, etc.) would be most similar to those in the original for outlining the knots, etc. My thanks in advance. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Douglas Brownell AKA Thomas Brownwell, Calligrapher, brownwell@home.com Dancer,Silversmith,Singer,Cobbler,... San Diego, CA Barony of Calafia, Caid The 4 elements = good physics stuff:: Or,a fountain, a chief rayonny gules. Goutte enough herald:: (Fieldless) A goutte barry wavy azure and argent. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 13:11:41 -0500 (CDT) From: ches Subject: [scribes]: pearl silver How many parts of fine silver dust to sea salt, then how many parts water? Ches ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 14:42:06 -0500 (CDT) From: daffy/chiara Subject: [scribes]: Palladium Hi ho. Well, I tried the palladium leaf. (I've always been a risk-taker:) ) I used acrylic gesso sottile from The Gabriel Guild, since it works really well for me with gold. The results were, in my opinion, pretty awesome. It adhered well, with nice edges, and burnished easily. The finish probably couldn't be called "mirror", but it's close. To get a nice, solid cover took 3 layers, but one or two looks okay... you have to look pretty close to see the imperfections. Possibly with plain white gesso, it would look even better. As a comparison, I also tried aluminum leaf. It burnished okay, but didn't adhere well at all. Once you get it to stick,(if you can--I gave up on the edges) it looks basically the same as the palladium. Pearl sells palladium leaf, but they don't list the price in their catalog. I think Sepp Leaf has it, too, but I can't find my catalog to check. BTW, Sinopia sells white gold for $23. Pearl also has copper leaf...has anyone seen this used in period? (I know, I know; if it was it would be green now.) Chiara da Ravenna ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 13:45:55 -0500 (EST) From: john j cash Subject: Re: [scribes]: Lindesfarne Pigments Dear folks, Thomas asks about what pigments to use to reproduce the colors in the Lindisfarne Gospels. I am also curious about what people think. In particular, the reds used in Lindisfarne seem more like magenta, a cort of crimson lake color, while the reds used in Kells and elsewhere seem more orange, like a light or medium cadmium red. This includes the dots! -- johannes v.n. ------------------------------ End of scribes digest V2 #72 ****************************