From: owner-scribes@castle.org (scribes digest) To: scribes-digest@castle.org Subject: scribes digest V2 #70 Reply-To: Sender: owner-scribes@castle.org Errors-To: owner-scribes@castle.org Precedence: bulk scribes digest Thursday, June 11 1998 Volume 02 : Number 070 In this issue: Re: [scribes]: Silver Leaf? [scribes]: What are you working on? [scribes]: Eastern Scribes on WWW [scribes]: Re: White Gold Leaf Fw: [scribes]: Silver Leaf? RE: [scribes]: straight ink lines? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:37:17 -0500 (EST) From: Sara Harless Subject: Re: [scribes]: Silver Leaf? On Tue, 9 Jun 1998, Carolyn Richardson wrote: > My one scroll regret is that I used real silver leaf on Aliskye's Pelican > scroll and didn't varnish it so now it's quite black. I'm tempted to > releaf it since I currently have it back from her to frame but i'm afraid I > may screw it up. I don't know how large or small the areas of silver leaf are on Mistress Aliskye's scroll are, but I have used a liquid tarnish remover applied with a cotton gun cleaning patch folded over a blunt round toothpick to remove tarnish from some old Valentine's Day cards that my grandmother had. It was slow, tedious work but the card was from my grandfather and was rather precious. I tried a regular silver polish but that required too much rubbing and the card was too fragile. I went to the liquid because it uses a chemical reaction to reverse the oxidation process almost instantly but can stain paper. The cotton material stretched over a toothpick wicked the tarnish remover and was easy to use like a pen tip to just cover the areas needed. I found metal tweezers too hard and inflexible; the toothpick was firm but had enough flex to clean the leaf without any apparent further damage. I would recommend trying it on a test sample of the silver leaf applied to the same paper/parchment/vellum used for the scroll first. I hope this might be of some small assistance, Evaine ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 18:02:04 -0400 From: Shivaun McGoff Subject: [scribes]: What are you working on? As another new scribe, I am reveling in seeing a recipient's face light up at the sight of their scroll! I just did one for Barren Sands War, East Kingdom. It was in Gothic bar and vine style, with parrots substituted for the partridges in the borders. Big Blue D, with pretty white work inside. Quick question: I have this really great quill pen that my mother gave me for a present. It's the kind you can get at Barnes and Noble in their writing sections, and I think it works great as an outliner and for putting in small decorative lines on leaves. What's the opinion? I use my writing ink in it, and it flows very well. Many thanks, Siobhan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 09:58:50 -0400 From: Knott Deanna Subject: [scribes]: Eastern Scribes on WWW Greetings! If you would like to view some works of some of the Eastern scribes, my = links are working now (except the secret bunny scroll is still secret, = shhhh). http://www.geocities.com/athens/academy/9523 Clicking on the illumination links will bring you to the pages. I hope = you enjoy your trip! Yours, Avelina Keyes Du Pont Pursuivant Barony of the Bridge East Kingdom ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 00:17:25 -0400 From: "June Lathrop" Subject: [scribes]: Re: White Gold Leaf That it does. I got mine from Pearl Paints and it's also listed in the EasyLeaf catalog as 12 kt white gold. Juliana - -----Original Message----- From: ken stoner To: June Lathrop Cc: scribes@castle.org Date: Tuesday, June 09, 1998 5:20 PM Subject: White Gold Leaf >June Lathrop wrote: >> >> I use white-gold leaf...although it has a very slight yellow tint to > >YES! I also use white gold for my Silver leaf. It has ALL the wonderfull >characteristics of gold leaf like: Precision, Ability to burnish up >nice, etc. As for WHERE to get white gold... I dont know. I got my book >from Thomas. > > Cystennin > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 00:13:58 -0400 From: "June Lathrop" Subject: Fw: [scribes]: Silver Leaf? - -----Original Message----- From: June Lathrop To: FITCHYBEAR@aol.com Date: Wednesday, June 10, 1998 12:12 AM Subject: Re: [scribes]: Silver Leaf? >It looks more silver on the blue. There _is_ a slight yellow tint if you >look closely, but at arms length or better it's not noticeable at all. I've >used the white gold/gold combination mainly with a blue or black background >and am well pleased with the results. I usually use silver gouache on the >underside of the crescent and shell gold on the rear points of the crown and >the finished product looks good to me. >Juliana > >-----Original Message----- >From: FITCHYBEAR@aol.com >To: juliana@bellatlantic.net ; scribes@castle.org > >Date: Tuesday, June 09, 1998 4:39 PM >Subject: Re: [scribes]: Silver Leaf? > > >>In a message dated 98-06-09 12:50:58 EDT, juliana@bellatlantic.net writes: >> >><< I use white-gold leaf...although it has a very slight yellow tint to it, >> when put next to regular gold leaf, it is light enough to pass for silver. >> I've used this for Silver Crescents in the East (a silver crescent atop a >> gold crown) and it looks just fine. No worry about tarnishing either. >> Lady Juliana Stafford, Rusted Woodlands, East >> mka June Lathrop, West Milford, NJ >> >> >>if you use blue instead of red bole does it look more silver or more >>green?-JimBear >> > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 00:20:09 -0500 (CDT) From: daffy/chiara Subject: RE: [scribes]: straight ink lines? > > << Has anyone tried using a dagger striper? They take some practice, > but you can get LOOOONG straight lines without refilling the brush. > I've used them for other applications, but never in illumination. > > Chiara da Ravenna >> > > a dagger what???-JimBear > A dagger striper is a type of brush used for pinstriping. It's usually found in art supply places with sign making paraphernalia. They come in different sizes for doing different line widths. I've seen two basic styles; the most common has a short handle (2-3 inches) with soft natural bristles about 2 to 3 inches long . The bristles are flat, about 1/4 to 1/2 inch wide, one edge being considerably longer than the other, giving the bristles a knife-like appearance. It's the thin, "sharp" edge of the "knife" that touches the paper. As a result, this brush holds a lot of paint, and let's you make very long lines. The other style is the same shape, but the bristles are synthetic, about an inch long overall, and set in a standard, watercolor length handle. As I said, it takes practice to make fine, consistent lines, but once you master it, it can look quite good. Hope this all makes sense. Chiara ------------------------------ End of scribes digest V2 #70 ****************************