From: owner-scribes@castle.org (scribes digest) To: scribes-digest@castle.org Subject: scribes digest V2 #36 Reply-To: Sender: owner-scribes@castle.org Errors-To: owner-scribes@castle.org Precedence: bulk scribes digest Saturday, May 30 1998 Volume 02 : Number 036 In this issue: [scribes]: personal for Thomas Bromwell Re: [scribes]: You know you're a scribe when... Re: [scribes]: Lectern or Table-long Re: [scribes]: Tracing pencils Re: [scribes]: Book Question Fwd: [scribes]: Letter of Introduction ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 03:30:19 -0700 From: ken stoner Subject: [scribes]: personal for Thomas Bromwell Sorry for the off topic post... But I lost dougs email address. Doug, I am sick this morning. E-mail me before you come up here. I may not be well enough to do scribal stuff. Might have Strep. *yuck* This will teach me to hang out with strange women at war... Cystennin Sends since he can hardly talk anyways. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 08:42:11 EDT From: FITCHYBEAR@aol.com Subject: Re: [scribes]: You know you're a scribe when... In a message dated 98-05-30 00:05:11 EDT, AngelODay@aol.com writes: << You know you're a scribe when you walk into the laides room at the local hot dog joint and can't take your eyes off the tiles in the bathroom. Wow.. they'd make a great scroll border! And Yes, I got a napkin and a pen and traced them off... >> I get thrown out of the ladies bathrooms........floors of goverment buildings(pre 1950's) often have lovely mosaic floors that have really cool key patterns-JimBear ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 08:42:09 EDT From: FITCHYBEAR@aol.com Subject: Re: [scribes]: Lectern or Table-long In a message dated 98-05-29 21:41:03 EDT, SCOTSWMMN@aol.com writes: << Have you tried Brause nibs? They don't seem to have nearly the problems that the Speedball nibs have, and are stiff enough to give the proper variation: nice thin lines on the diagonals, and solidly even lines on the downstrokes. You don't mention what the other brand of nib was that you tried....... I use Higgins, too -- their waterproof black embossing ink is quite nice. Margaret Cameron >> Someone mentioned that sumi ink had varnish it it that made it water proof.....I'm not sure that is correct..........I know that when I do any grisaille work I have to be very careful in my colour washes that go over the ink (when the ink is completely dry) so as not to pull up the sumi. I know that india ink does have a varnish in it.-JimBear ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 08:42:10 EDT From: FITCHYBEAR@aol.com Subject: Re: [scribes]: Tracing pencils In a message dated 98-05-29 23:31:50 EDT, uboru@pop.erols.com writes: << I've decided to start tracing images from books in order to build up a library of images to use for scrolls. What would be a good fine lead pencil to use for such tracings? As usual, all help is appreciated Many thanks Brigantia >> I use a .5mm HB for tracing it is hard. You don't want anything too soft as it gets messy when transferring. Another suggestion for art sources would be C.D. cover artwork for medieval and renniasance music.....often it is more "lyrical" and less rigid that artwork that deals with religious subject matter.-JimBear ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 08:42:06 EDT From: FITCHYBEAR@aol.com Subject: Re: [scribes]: Book Question In a message dated 98-05-29 21:29:27 EDT, dyan@thegrid.net writes: << Here's another book question: Has anybody ever seen the book "Flemish Illuminated Manuscripts c. 1475-1550" by Maurtis Smeyers and Jan Van der Stock and have any opinions about its value or contributions to us scribes? Or if anybody knows about some other good books with flemish illuminations, those would be greatly appreciated, too. I'd like to try to get more proficient in one particular style instead of just floating around from one to the other (my wallet can't sustain that either). And since my persona is flemish, I thought I might start researching in that direction. Thanks, ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Tais van Vlaenderen mka Dyan Boven Kingdom of Caid Yucca Valley, CA >> If you find such a book, I'd be very interested..........I took a commission in exchange for a damascas knife. The knife maker said it was for his lady and she said she wanted flemish. I told that I had not done the style but would learn it and then do her scroll.......3 flemish scrolls (and two years later) I felt comfortable enough to get ready to do the scroll when I received a letter from her letting me know that she hoped I wasn't going to do the flemish book illumination but a Flemish patent of arms (she is a Pelican). I had managed to get a great photo of her in the proper garb and kneeling which I was going to incorporate into the scroll.........Oh well-JimBear ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 10:04:52 EDT From: MRomero106@aol.com Subject: Fwd: [scribes]: Letter of Introduction This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --part0_896537092_boundary Content-ID: <0_896537092@inet_out.mail.aol.com.1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII In a message dated 98-05-30 01:53:44 EDT, francis@thibault.org writes: << I.C. Kessler wrote: > As you may know in Meridies we don't charge for scrolls, > I understand that in some places they do. Really? I hadn't heard that. I know that some people will commission a scroll if they want a particular scribe to do it in a particular way; but, every place I've been, the default is that, scrolls are free if you're willing to wait your turn. :-) OK, so now who's going to contradict me? :> Greetings, I know in the Cynaguan (and probably the West in General) you are not allowed to charge for scrolls period....if you do you will cease to be rostered. Non- rostered scribes scrolls will not be accepted for awards. Or so I think this is what I was told. Not that I would imagine that a person might donate something for your time doing their scroll. Zaid ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Naquiib Zaid al-fallah Hajji (Merced Romero,Jr.) Barony of Fett Burg Principality of Cynagua Kingdom of the west (whew!) Stockton,Ca ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ - --part0_896537092_boundary Content-ID: <0_896537092@inet_out.mail.aol.com.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from relay29.mx.aol.com (relay29.mail.aol.com [172.31.109.29]) by air12.mail.aol.com (v43.20) with SMTP; Sat, 30 May 1998 01:53:44 -0400 Received: from castle.org (cx39592-a.elcjn1.sdca.home.com [24.4.65.87]) by relay29.mx.aol.com (8.8.5/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id BAA07073; Sat, 30 May 1998 01:53:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by castle.org (8.8.5/8.6.9) id WAA03998 for scribes-list; Fri, 29 May 1998 22:52:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: castle.org: majordomo set sender to owner-scribes@castle.org using -f Received: from moat.castle.org (moat.castle.org [129.46.92.29]) by castle.org (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id WAA03994 for ; Fri, 29 May 1998 22:52:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from komarr.local.thibault.org (mg136-102.ricochet.net [204.179.136.102]) by moat.castle.org (8.8.5/8.8.5.s1) with ESMTP id WAA01598 for ; Fri, 29 May 1998 22:52:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thibault.org (granny.local.thibault.org [192.168.10.16]) by komarr.local.thibault.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA00315; Fri, 29 May 1998 22:49:28 -0700 Message-ID: <356F9E75.97D32C7F@thibault.org> Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 22:51:54 -0700 From: John Stracke X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; I; PPC) To: scribes@castle.org Subject: Re: [scribes]: Letter of Introduction References: <19980530045407.28601.qmail@hotmail.com> Sender: owner-scribes@castle.org Precedence: bulk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I.C. Kessler wrote: > As you may know in Meridies we don't charge for scrolls, > I understand that in some places they do. Really? I hadn't heard that. I know that some people will commission a scroll if they want a particular scribe to do it in a particular way; but, every place I've been, the default is that, scrolls are free if you're willing to wait your turn. :-) OK, so now who's going to contradict me? :-) /=================================================================\ |John Francis Stracke | http://www.thibault.org |S/MIME & HTML OK| |francis@thibault.org |===========================================| |Crosston, Mists, West| Any time somebody has a conditioned | |My LAN, my opinions. | response, they *always* think of Pavlov! | \=================================================================/ - --part0_896537092_boundary-- ------------------------------ End of scribes digest V2 #36 ****************************