From: owner-scribes@castle.org (scribes digest) To: scribes-digest@castle.org Subject: scribes digest V2 #34 Reply-To: Sender: owner-scribes@castle.org Errors-To: owner-scribes@castle.org Precedence: bulk scribes digest Friday, May 29 1998 Volume 02 : Number 034 In this issue: [scribes]: re: yet another question RE: [scribes]: yet another question [scribes]: web page Re: [scribes]: yet another question [scribes]: Re: web page [scribes]: mailing list problems - scribes@castle.org [scribes]: mail should be ok now [scribes]: (scribes) Introduction Re: [scribes]: Jim Bear's non test (was mail should be ok now) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 11:56:33 -0300 From: Guy & Sharon Campbell Subject: [scribes]: re: yet another question Thanks so much to all of you who answered my question! It really helped. Thanks again. Felicity ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 11:11:43 -0500 (CDT) From: Daffy + Chiara Subject: RE: [scribes]: yet another question > What would you do if the contact person seems convinced that, although s/he > doesn't know what style would suit the recipient, the recipient would love > a > scroll that has a part done in a _very_ way out of period way to make a > sort > of in-joke? Could you put the humorous bits on the back? Just a thought. :) Chiara da Ravenna ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 10:25:23 -0500 From: Cindy Baker Subject: [scribes]: web page Wow! Very nice work. Did you find the period pigments difficult to handle? Were you using gum arabic, glair, egg yolk or some combination for the binder? It's hard to tell on the computer image, but the white looks like it fades out a little. Were you using titanium or lead white? It may be just that the thickness of the line varies. When I use white lines over watercolors, the white tends to pick up a little of the color on the longer lines. Then, when I refill the brush with white, the next lines are very 'bright' white by comparison. Have you had similar problems? I especially like the ivy leaves sprouting from the side of the 'bar'! Ellen of the Scholars Baile na Scolairi Midrealm cebaker@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu >On Thu, 28 May 1998, Rhiannon wrote: > >> Yes, I too have joined those with art on the web. As of yet I only have >> two pieces up there, but there should be more soon. I would really >> appreciate comments, either here or in private email. >Okay, I was tired. That's my only excuse. :) Here's the url: >http://web.syr.edu/~rkeischw/illum.html > >Sorry. >--Geileis nic Dhughaill-- >--Geillis Rhiannon Walter-- > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 11:39:02 -0400 From: Heather Swann Subject: Re: [scribes]: yet another question In such cases, I've done two scrolls- one as a joke, the other for real. That way, you're covered! :) Miri > > > What would you do if the contact person seems convinced that, although s/he > > doesn't know what style would suit the recipient, the recipient would love > > a > > scroll that has a part done in a _very_ way out of period way to make a > > sort > > of in-joke? > > > Could you put the humorous bits on the back? > > Just a thought. :) > > Chiara da Ravenna ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 10:37:48 -0500 (CDT) From: Rhiannon Subject: [scribes]: Re: web page On Fri, 29 May 1998, Cindy Baker wrote: > Wow! Very nice work. Did you find the period pigments difficult to handle? > Were you using gum arabic, glair, egg yolk or some combination for the binder? I use gum arabic. I actually find the period ones much easier to use than the opaque watercolors I was using before, especially for the whitework. I have much more control over it. > It's hard to tell on the computer image, but the white looks like it fades > out a little. Were you using titanium or lead white? It may be just that the > thickness of the line varies. When I use white lines over watercolors, the > white tends to pick up a little of the color on the longer lines. Then, when > I refill the brush with white, the next lines are very 'bright' white by > comparison. I have that problem a little, but I generally go over the bits that are lightest. In this case, it's mostly the effect of the scanning. They don't fade out nearly so much in the original. > Have you had similar problems? I especially like the ivy leaves sprouting > from the side of the 'bar'! Thank you. - --Geileis-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 09:03:17 -0700 From: Lee Damon Subject: [scribes]: mailing list problems - scribes@castle.org Please do *not* mail postmaster@qualcomm.com about problems sending email to castle. QUALCOMM doesn't want to know about it, and it could get me in hot water if they get too many complaints. Some of you are having problems sending email to scribes@castle.org via my backup link. QUALCOMM blocks spammail based on route filters, and some AOL addresses are blocked. As you know, I lost my main network connection from @HOME over memorial weekend. Today, they are finally sending someone out to check the cable connection. (Lets see, that's now a total of 10 days of downtime since 7 DEC, 1997. NOT a good record. I can't recommend @HOME for my friends who use the Internet.) Hopefully service will be restored for everyone soon. CT/nomad postmaster@castle.org - ------------ - Lee "nomad" Damon - \ play: nomad@castle.org or castle!nomad \ work: nomad@qualcomm.com \ http://people.qualcomm.com/nomad/ /\ Seneschal, Castle PAUS. / \ "Celebrate Diversity" / \ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 09:46:08 -0700 From: Lee Damon Subject: [scribes]: mail should be ok now My home network is back on the cablemodem connection. Everyone should be able to post to scribes@castle.org again. nomad - ------------ - Lee "nomad" Damon - \ play: nomad@castle.org or castle!nomad \ work: nomad@qualcomm.com \ http://people.qualcomm.com/nomad/ /\ Seneschal, Castle PAUS. / \ "Celebrate Diversity" / \ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 10:43:52 -0700 From: Gael Stirler Subject: [scribes]: (scribes) Introduction Hello, My name is Lady Dairine mor o' h'Uigin, a 14th century Irish widow residing in France where I own a souvenier shop near a sacred shrine in Turin. I am the artist and webmaster for the Gutenberg School of Scribes http://renstore.com/articles/GSS/index.shtml Please visit my new site and give me your comments and suggestions. The site is still under construction. I plan a total of about 20 short lessons with links to historical references that illustrate the subject of each lesson. So far I only have a few lessons up and they are not as complete as they will be. I only have a few hours a week to work on this project but I am pleased with the look of it so far. My hope is that it will help other illumination teachers because it can be used as a lesson plan. The site is built around a concept of using reproduction promissory AoA and other low level scroll as the basis for teaching new techniques. I have designed a set of scrolls that have specific areas left blank so that I can have the students fill those spaces with vines, acanthus leaves, decorative borders or other designs as we cover the techniques. In this way each scroll is made unique by the students original artwork and yet the work goes quickly. Even beginners are creating usable scrolls for the kingdom in just a few lessons. Please, feel free to add links to this site on your own websites. Mundanely, I am know as Gael Stirler, the owner of Chivalry Sports. Please address you comments to me gael@renstore.com or gutenberg@renstore.com. Thank you, Lady Dairine - -- Chivalry Sports Renaissance Store now has its own domain name. Look for us now at http://RenStore.com for the best in Medieval, Renaissance, and Fantasy Merchandise. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 17:08:40 EDT From: FITCHYBEAR@aol.com Subject: Re: [scribes]: Jim Bear's non test (was mail should be ok now) Hi! hope this works...... I hope you all found the chart on heraldic colours helpful and I'm sorry that the program wrapped it funny...... Regarding the chart: this was taken directly out of Friar's book, and as I said he had a host of Heraldic luminaries so I feel that the chart is in essence correct. As to wether Murrey and Sanguine are supposed to be the same colour, by virtue of the fact that Lord Lyon of Scotland as well as others in the mundane heraldic community helped with the editing, I'm enclined to take their word for it. You are correct that sanguine, murrey and tenne' are not used by SCA heraldry (really too bad) although a Duke in Caid uses orange in the depiction of his device and I don't remember if he registered it as gules or Or-JimBear ------------------------------ End of scribes digest V2 #34 ****************************