From: owner-scribes@castle.org (scribes digest) To: scribes-digest@castle.org Subject: scribes digest V1 #83 Reply-To: Sender: owner-scribes@castle.org Errors-To: owner-scribes@castle.org Precedence: bulk scribes digest Tuesday, February 24 1998 Volume 01 : Number 083 In this issue: [scribes]: Re: scribes digest V1 #81 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 10:42:52 +0000 (GMT) From: Barbara Webb Subject: [scribes]: Re: scribes digest V1 #81 > >>On the other hand it may be possible that as a heraldic charge quills > do have barbs - does anyone know if "quills" as opposed to feathers > were used in (period) heraldry & if so whether they were illustrated as > barrels or as still barbed? That might explain where the general > misconception about 'writing with feathers' came from...<< > > All the heraldic representations I've seen contain barbs - sometimes along > the length, sometimes just at the very end. Without them it would pretty > much just look like a slash across the field. > > But that's kind of beside the point. The embattled quill is simply a > charge used by the Caidan scribes at their choice to signify their > membership to the Caid college of scribes - I don't think the idea was to > have a realistic representation here, but something recognizable as a > "quill" to anyone who looked at it. Most folks think of quills with barbs > - - you pretty much have to be a scribe to think of them without them. Thanks for that info: and my apologies if my previous message seemed a little abrupt - I did realise it was just a charge. It is just a "pet peeve" that most folks have this misconception about quills. I'd be interested to know what period heraldry you have seen with a barbed quill, if you could pass that on. Thanks Caitlin de Courcy ------------------------------ End of scribes digest V1 #83 ****************************