From: owner-scribes@castle.org (scribes digest) To: scribes-digest@castle.org Subject: scribes digest V1 #73 Reply-To: Sender: owner-scribes@castle.org Errors-To: owner-scribes@castle.org Precedence: bulk scribes digest Friday, February 20 1998 Volume 01 : Number 073 In this issue: [scribes]: Exemplars and Preprints on the Web RE: [scribes]: Exemplars and Preprints on the Web Re: [scribes]: Exemplars and Preprints on the Web Re: [scribes]: Exemplars and Preprints on the Web Re: [scribes]: Exemplars and Preprints on the Web [scribes]: Re: Scribal Signatures [scribes]: Re: Exemplars and Preprints on the Web Re: [scribes]: Re: Scribal Signatures [scribes]: Re: Scribal Signatures ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 16:03:27 -0800 From: Trish Waldon Subject: [scribes]: Exemplars and Preprints on the Web Recent postings about sketchbooks and folders full of motifs have started getting me inspired! I've started collecting the few things I have into one place, but would also like to some more preprints and other actual SCA scrolls for layout ideas. As a somewhat out of the way new scribe, not convenient to a scriptorium I've only ever seen a total of about five real-life scrolls, and could use all the visual input I can get! I have visited the lovely Lochac preprints,as well as the Calontir exemplars on the web. Does anyone else know of any similar examples on the web? Thanks! Rowan Oldway (who is working on her signature and maker's mark - if only her device would pass!) **************************************************************** Trish Waldon voice: (408) 459-3857 Social Sciences Development fax: (408) 459-5900 310 Social Sciences I email: trishw@cats.ucsc.edu University of California Santa Cruz, CA 95064 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 16:43:39 -0800 From: "Karen Jarvis (General Employment)" Subject: RE: [scribes]: Exemplars and Preprints on the Web I am also new to this sight. I would like address to good web sites for scribes (like those mentioned below). I will be taking over our Baronial scribal office soon and would like to be well versed when I take over. Lady Valerienne de Menton Barony of Madrone Kingdom of AnTir -----Original Message----- From: Trish Waldon [SMTP:trishw@cats.ucsc.edu] Sent: Thursday, February 19, 1998 4:03 PM To: scribes@castle.org Subject: [scribes]: Exemplars and Preprints on the Web Recent postings about sketchbooks and folders full of motifs have started getting me inspired! I've started collecting the few things I have into one place, but would also like to some more preprints and other actual SCA scrolls for layout ideas. As a somewhat out of the way new scribe, not convenient to a scriptorium I've only ever seen a total of about five real-life scrolls, and could use all the visual input I can get! I have visited the lovely Lochac preprints,as well as the Calontir exemplars on the web. Does anyone else know of any similar examples on the web? Thanks! Rowan Oldway (who is working on her signature and maker's mark - if only her device would pass!) **************************************************************** Trish Waldon voice: (408) 459-3857 Social Sciences Development fax: (408) 459-5900 310 Social Sciences I email: trishw@cats.ucsc.edu University of California Santa Cruz, CA 95064 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 17:00:40 -0800 From: John Stracke Subject: Re: [scribes]: Exemplars and Preprints on the Web Trish Waldon wrote: > I have visited the lovely Lochac preprints,as well as the Calontir > exemplars on the web. Does anyone else know of any similar examples on the > web? Here's a thought (stop me if it's been done already). How about a general gallery of people's work? I've got a website & a pretty good scanner; people could send me photocopies of their scrolls to put up. Francois Thibault Crosston, Mists, West (.signature missing from this mailer) francis@thibault.org ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 20:35:27 -0500 From: "Helen Schultz" Subject: Re: [scribes]: Exemplars and Preprints on the Web For all you new people to the list, one of the best web sites to start with is: http://www.georgetown.edu/labyrinth/subjects/mss/mss.html This page has numerous other links to other manuscript pages. Have fun surfing...hope you are not charged by the minute on your server -- you WILL spend lots of time on this page and its links!!!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Meisterin Katarina Helene von Schoenborn, OL Shire of Narrental (Peru, Indiana) Middle Kingdom ~~ Vert, a unicorn head couped close Argent, crinned and armed Or, and in sinister, a gore Or ~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 22:14:27 EST From: Seton1355@aol.com Subject: Re: [scribes]: Exemplars and Preprints on the Web In a message dated 98-02-19 20:08:22 EST, you write: << How about a general gallery of people's work? >> That sounds like a wonderful idea! I'd love to see examples of other people's work. Phillipa Seton ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 22:29:22 EST From: EowynA@aol.com Subject: [scribes]: Re: Scribal Signatures Hello again! Between weeks of business travel and Great Wet War II, I am just now catching up on my mail. I agree that signing on the front is a Good Idea. If it is for reproduction (such as a cover), I usually sign my full SCA name, a circled c with the year, and my modern name -- there is usually a edge that this can "blend into" . Otherwise, I might use one of the Latin phrases, " Eowyn me fecit" (Eowyn made me), "pinxit - " (painted by) "per mano - " (by the hand of), "scripsit - " (written by -- also on the frame of my license plate), "faciebat -" (fashioned by). Or I use the "eoh" rune crossing the "eh" rune (looks like an M over an S, which are also my modern initials) followed by the "wyn" rune, appropriate for an Anglo-Saxon or Viking scroll. Or, if it works, I put a gold dragon into the illumination, for Amberdrake. And any scribe of Caid is welcome to use our kingdom scribal mark, an embattled quill. I often write a separate page of information about the scroll, and hand that directly to the new owner. It explains any symbolism relevant to the design, the era, and perhaps materials (though not often). It is the "documentation" that goes with the scroll, and I keep a copy of it, as well. But even if I work in some symbolism, my SCA name is on there, somewhere. I figure it is a registered alias, I might as well use it. It has been fascinating reading the variations on this theme. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 22:48:41 EST From: RenScribe@aol.com Subject: [scribes]: Re: Exemplars and Preprints on the Web In a message dated 2/19/98 7:08:44 PM, trishw@cats.ucsc.edu wrote: >I have visited the lovely Lochac preprints,as well as the Calontir >exemplars on the web. Does anyone else know of any similar examples on the >web? > >Thanks! >Rowan Oldway *****Shameless plug****** The Cyber-scriptorium http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/2963 There are several pages of scrolls done by AEthelmearc scribes (by style as well as a gallery) plus links to other SCA scribal web pages. Any contributions of articles of interest to scribes, scanned scrolls, links of interest (especially SCA scribal websites) as always, will be warmly accepted. :-) Ok, pretty please...if you are able to contribute something please do (This is not an AEthelmearc exclusive project, work from all kingdoms is welcome). I will give you full credit for anything submitted. The whole purpose of the site is for scribes to have a place to share ideas and techniques. Do I sound desperate enough??? Good, those years as a chronicler are good for something. ;-) Resident Cyber-scribe....... Eibhlin ni Chaoimh AEthelmearc Butler PA ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 23:17:49 -0500 From: Linda Pancrazio Subject: Re: [scribes]: Re: Scribal Signatures How do you embattle a Quill? Does it have little squares running up it's shaft? Curious - Genevieve At 10:29 PM 2/19/98 EST, EowynA@aol.com wrote: >Hello again! > >Between weeks of business travel and Great Wet War II, I am just now= catching >up on my mail.=20 > >I agree that signing on the front is a Good Idea. If it is for= reproduction >(such as a cover), I usually sign my full SCA name, a circled c with the year, >and my modern name -- there is usually a edge that this can "blend into" . >Otherwise, I might use one of the Latin phrases, " Eowyn me fecit" (Eowyn made >me), "pinxit - " (painted by) "per mano - " (by the hand of), "scripsit - " >(written by -- also on the frame of my license plate), "faciebat -" (fashioned >by). Or I use the "eoh" rune crossing the "eh" rune (looks like an M over= an >S, which are also my modern initials) followed by the "wyn" rune,= appropriate >for an Anglo-Saxon or Viking scroll. Or, if it works, I put a gold dragon >into the illumination, for Amberdrake. >And any scribe of Caid is welcome to use our kingdom scribal mark, an >embattled quill. > >I often write a separate page of information about the scroll, and hand= that >directly to the new owner. It explains any symbolism relevant to the= design, >the era, and perhaps materials (though not often). It is the= "documentation" >that goes with the scroll, and I keep a copy of it, as well.=20 > >But even if I work in some symbolism, my SCA name is on there, somewhere. = I >figure it is a registered alias, I might as well use it.=20 > >It has been fascinating reading the variations on this theme.=20 > > *****************************((****************************************** Linda Pancrazio )) SCA: Lady Genevi=E8ve d'Evreux >>>-------> Selma NC, USA (( -- Elvegast, Windmasters' Hill, Atlantia = =20 lindap@ipass.net )) Azure, on a bend wavy argent between two http://www.ipass.net/~lindap (( butterflies Or three roses purpure. }{ ******************************))****************************************** Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium: http://www.ipass.net/~lindap/whscript.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 00:03:32 EST From: EowynA@aol.com Subject: [scribes]: Re: Scribal Signatures In a message dated 2/19/98 8:14:16 PM, lindap@ipass.net wrote: >How do you embattle a Quill? > >Does it have little squares running up its shaft? > You draw a feather, complete with barbs (the "feather" part of the quill). Then cut little square chunks out of the edge of the feather, through the barbs, at regular intervals. Then finish drawing the business end of the quill as if it had been cut for writing with. Eowyn Amberdrake, Caid Melinda Sherbring, Los Angeles ------------------------------ End of scribes digest V1 #73 ****************************