From: owner-scribes@castle.org (scribes digest) To: scribes-digest@castle.org Subject: scribes digest V1 #70 Reply-To: Sender: owner-scribes@castle.org Errors-To: owner-scribes@castle.org Precedence: bulk scribes digest Thursday, February 19 1998 Volume 01 : Number 070 In this issue: [scribes]: Concentration and errors Re: [scribes]: Scribal Signatures -Reply Re: [scribes]: Concentration and errors Re: [scribes]: Scribal Signatures -Reply ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 19:15:28 -0400 From: wyverns Subject: [scribes]: Concentration and errors Rise wrote: > The problem I've had most consistently trying to work on anything (even > learning new hands) at a scriptorum is that when I try to write while anyone > is talking, I make mistakes. I repeat letters or omit them, or repeat or > omit whole phrases. > > My preference for dealing with this would be to put on some nice period > music and have people not talk. But is that realistic? Should I just > resign myself to never try and do anything verbal (painting seems to work > ok) with others around? What do the rest of you do? Like all things, calligraphing (and other stuff) with people around (and even looking over your shoulder or staring at your work) can be learned with practice. I would suggest doing practice texts (e.g. promisory notes) and things with short texts (like poetry or your friend's favorite quote) at first. Practice maintaining concentration midst conversation, or even purposely break your concentration then carefully turn it back to your calligraphy (practice makes perfect; things happen even in peaceful settings). Work your way gradually toward longer texts (the ones where us scribes are most likely to miss something). Personally, I prefer to callig at home, with a video I've seen before as background sound. At scriptorium, I draw, layout, paint, or teach. But I have been known to do calligraphy at demo's - usually shorter things that are less likely to get a devastating interruption. :-) One of my history courses in college included discussions of how texts of books are traced through the copies that have been made of them. The primary clue is the inevitable mistakes made by the scribe or class student. Copies done by looking at a predecessor text typically have visual tracking errors (skipped or duplicated letters, words or lines) while those made by listening and writing while the text book is read to a group of people (students or literary circle or whatever) typically have skipped lines (tracking error on the part of the reader) and extra stuff added from the reader making comments or reading marginal notes as if it were part of the original text. So mistakes just make the scroll more authentic! And spelling isnt peryod. :-} ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 20:19:12 EST From: FITCHYBEAR@aol.com Subject: Re: [scribes]: Scribal Signatures -Reply In a message dated 98-02-18 11:53:03 EST, Carolyn_Richardson@cch.com writes: << Guess I really should redesign my seal to update my achievement, whenever I get a round tuit. Tetchubah of Greenlake Kingdom of Caid >> Is a round tuit an achievement?-JimBear ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 17:27:46 -0800 From: John Stracke Subject: Re: [scribes]: Concentration and errors wyverns wrote: > But I have been known to do calligraphy at demo's - usually shorter things that > are less likely to get a devastating interruption. I did my first scroll (calligraphy & some of the illumination) at Kingdom Twelfth Night. It went well, but I'm not sure why. :-) I'd been working on drafts for months, and I think the main advantage of doing it at Twelfth Night was that I could work more or less all day, instead of the couple of hours I usually get at a scriptorium. Francois Thibault Crosston, Mists, West /================================================================\ |John Francis Stracke| http://www.thibault.org |S/MIME & HTML OK| |francis@thibault.org|===========================================| |Power Mac w/PPP | My strength is as the strength of ten | |My Mac, my opinions.| because my code is pure. | \================================================================/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 20:55:33 -0500 From: Linda Pancrazio Subject: Re: [scribes]: Scribal Signatures -Reply I use my initials too - gd'e - I make the g and the e the same size and like double spirals then I put the d tiny in the middle with two stems like antenna. It's a butterfly! Genevieve p.s. - nifty latin phrases - the one I use on the back of the scroll is Genevieve me fecit _______ (Recipient's name). I found it in Christopher de Hamel's big black book. I need one now that says "Made by Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium" or created by or produced by or something like that. Is the tense different when it's made by a group rather than an individual? I know this has already been on the list and I didn't save it - could someone send it to me privately? Thanks. - Gd'E At 12:38 PM 2/18/98 +0000, Ken Stoner wrote: >Mine is my initials > > CAG > >But in place of the A I use a fir tree (pine tree) which is the >primary charge from my device. > > Cystennin >Kenneth Allen Stoner Elgar Corp >(619)678-4414 Digital Eng. Dept >------------------------------------------------------ >Of course, things that *I* say do not reflect or imply >the views of my employer. I.E. I think for myself. :) >Pane' Sepullya > > *****************************((****************************************** Linda Pancrazio )) SCA: Lady Genevi=E8ve d'Evreux >>>-------> Selma NC, USA (( -- Elvegast, Windmasters' Hill, Atlantia = =20 lindap@ipass.net )) Azure, on a bend wavy argent between two http://www.ipass.net/~lindap (( butterflies Or three roses purpure. }{ ******************************))****************************************** Windmasters' Hill Scriptorium: http://www.ipass.net/~lindap/whscript.html ------------------------------ End of scribes digest V1 #70 ****************************