From: owner-scribes@castle.org (scribes digest) To: scribes-digest@castle.org Subject: scribes digest V1 #50 Reply-To: Sender: owner-scribes@castle.org Errors-To: owner-scribes@castle.org Precedence: bulk scribes digest Tuesday, February 10 1998 Volume 01 : Number 050 In this issue: Re: [scribes]: wide gold border backgrounds Re: [scribes]: Speaking of bargain books... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 23:37:25 +1100 From: Steve Roylance Subject: Re: [scribes]: wide gold border backgrounds Cindy Baker wrote: > > Lady Enid nicEoin of Ponte Alto said with the solid gold backgrounds, and I have been experimenting with > techniques to ge the gold to look righ> > > I have noticed on some of these gold backgrounds, when 'realistic' looking > flowers are painted 'in front of' the gold background, the illuminator often > puts a reddish looking shadow behind the flower. I have not had a chance to > look at any real manuscript pages to determine how this shadow effect is > achieved. Are they painting on top of the gold, or is some of the gold > scraped away to leave the reddish bole or gesso showing through? > > Any ideas or opinions on the 'best' way to execute this type of border? > Hi, A a suggestion would be to put a coloured ground down first, such as a ochre then then put on some shell gold, then paint the squashed bugs and their shadows. I have also seen other grounds used such as red, grey, black, green (many without the gold background). Andachtsbuecher des Mittelalters aus Privatbesitz, J.M.Plotzek, Schnuetgen-Museum, Koeln, 1987, no ISBN number in English that is - Prayer Books of the Middle Ages from Private Collections - catalogue of the exhibition, 90 exhibits from the 12th to 16th century I have not tried it (the thought of all that shell gold on one page) as it is a bit daunting (on the wallet) As ever Thorfinn, Lochac, West Melbourne, Australia ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 10:21:12 From: Martha Knowles Subject: Re: [scribes]: Speaking of bargain books... *snip* >And on the subject of "Scribes and Sources" I got a copy a couple of years >ago from Powell's Bookstore in Portland, OR. I think I paid about $30 for >it, but if I recall correctly it's autographed. You might check Powell's >online catalog (sorry, I don't have the address with me). > >Tetchubah of Greenlake >Kingdom of Caid Powells online can be reached at: www.powells.com You might also try Interloc Books at: www.interloc.com Both these services have out of print books and I've had pretty good service from them. But you have to keep checking if you're looking for something in particular. Blessings, Marthe Elsbeth Meridies ------------------------------ End of scribes digest V1 #50 ****************************