From: owner-scribes@castle.org (scribes digest) To: scribes-digest@castle.org Subject: scribes digest V1 #4 Reply-To: Sender: owner-scribes@castle.org Errors-To: owner-scribes@castle.org Precedence: bulk scribes digest Saturday, January 24 1998 Volume 01 : Number 004 In this issue: [scribes]: Re: Caid Scribes handbook [scribes]: Re: Art on Here Re: [scribes]: inexpensive gold/silver substitute Re: [scribes]: inexpensive gold/silver substitute ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 15:23:36 EST From: RenScribe Subject: [scribes]: Re: Caid Scribes handbook In a message dated 1/24/98 1:36:15 PM, Holly_Sullivan@elric.maximumaccess.com wrote: >Would anyone happen to know if the above is available online? I'd be >willing to put it online, if I could find a copy to transcribe. HTML >spoken here. :-) I would like to see ones from all the different Kingdoms >available somewhere for reference.. I think there's value in learning how >other Kingdoms do things. Might be just the thing for a spark of >inspiration sometime. :-) I am not aware of Caid having this information online. I agree. Having this information available from all kingdoms would be useful. As webminister of the Cyber-Scriptorium, about half of the responses from my site are from novice scribes wanting to know what is expected from scribes and what they have to do to get started in their kingdoms. The best I can do at this point is try to track down the current ranking scribe in their kingdom and trade off information. I have seen the compilation of all of the handbooks in print.. "WOW!!! That's one *huge* handout ;-) Perhaps a scribe...or other helpful individual...from each kingdom would volunteer to put their own kingdom's handbook online. I am planning on putting AEthelmearc's handbook online as soon as it finished. I extend an offer of assistance to anyone interested in putting their kingdom's handbook online. (Suggestions on where to get free web space, web design, HTML help, OCR (text) or graphic scanning) Eibhlin ni Chaoimh AEthelmearc Butler PA http://www.angelfire.com/pa/allthat2/eibhlin.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 15:40:04 EST From: RenScribe Subject: [scribes]: Re: Art on Here In a message dated 1/24/98 2:26:08 PM, EowynA@aol.com wrote: >>. Perhaps what >> we need is to start out with coordination of what is >> already on line among us. What articles are at what >> sites? The first thing we need, I think, is a site >> that says what articles are where! :) That is why the Known World Scriptorium and Cyber-scriptorium were started in the first place. Offers have been made from both to post articles, links to existing articles and sites, graphics of scrolls, lists of current kingdom scribal officers...anything of interest to scribes. Submissions have been all but non-existant. If people don't send the information they are aware of...we can't post it. There is only so much time a scribe has for web surfing :-( I encourage you to send any information you feel would be useful. Cyber-scriptorium http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/2963/index.html Known World Scriptorium http://members.aol.com/whyteboar/scriptor.htm Eibhlin ni Chaoimh webminister of the Cyber-scriptorium ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 19:30:28 -0600 From: Cornelius Perkins Subject: Re: [scribes]: inexpensive gold/silver substitute Ariannawyn wrote: > Yeah, I got it at a science store, and it works fine. Amethyst is just a > purple quartzite, and though we think of it as a precious gem, the tumble > polished ones have too many impurities to be jewelry, so they're just as cheap > as the others. Um, Ariannawyn, I hate to be picky (okay, I don't hate it, but I feel required to pretend that I do :), but amethyst is not quartzite. Quartzite is a metamorphic rock formed by squishing and cooking sandstone. Amethyst is a mineral, deposited, like quartz. Agate, for those who care, is a cryptocrystalline (which just means lots of tiny crystals) mineral relative of quartz. I love your idea (I think it was your idea) to use a handheld tumbled piece of hard mineral (agate, quartz, amethyst) as a burnisher. Since I'm currently outfitting not one but two gilding kits, it's a solution I plan to follow. Cheers. Neil - -- // Cornelius Perkins cperkins@nothinbut.net // http://www.nothinbut.net/~cperkins // In girum imus nocte et consumimur igni ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 20:27:53 -0500 From: "Helen Schultz" Subject: Re: [scribes]: inexpensive gold/silver substitute Well, Ariannawyn and Neil, now it is my turn to get a little picky. The main problem with a hand-held piece of whatever you chose to burnish with, is that you will get hand oils on it...they in turn will pull your gold off if you are doing direct burnishing (which you CAN do with hematite and agate, by the way, I've done it). I've not been able to direct burnish patent gold, by the way, it just scratches the surface. To get around that, I keep a piece of silk nearby and burnish with the silk (like I was polishing a piece of silver -- buff, buff, buff). I use a commercially made hounds-tooth agate to burnish all my gilding, and have only had problems if I try to burnish too soon or with the patent gold. I always do a preliminary burnish over glycene paper, and then go back after a couple of hours and burnish directly with the agate. I have a couple hematite burnishers, but messed one up (scratched it badly) and just don't really like the shape at all. I started out with a polished hematite "rock" and couldn't understand why it kept pulling the gold back up. Then it dawned on me, when my glycene paper gets too much oils on it, it traps some of the leaf and becomes a mess...so the same thing must be happening to the pretty rock I was trying to hold in my fingers. BTW, have you ever tried to hold a polished stone while wearing gloves? Very slippery. I still wear gloves when working, but I cut the tips off the thumb and first two fingers so I can grip anything I need to. That way, I don't have to have a piece of paper always in the way. If you use the stones recommended (other than the commercially purchased burnishers), I would recommend you find someone to at least mount them onto a short handle of some sort. Anything to keep your fingers away from the part you use for burnishing. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Meisterin Katarina Helene von Schoenborn, OL Shire of Narrental (Peru, Indiana) Middle Kingdom ~~ Vert, a unicorn head couped close Argent, crinned and armed Or, and in sinister, a gore Or ~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Ariannawyn wrote: > > > Yeah, I got it at a science store, and it works fine. Amethyst is just a > > purple quartzite, and though we think of it as a precious gem, the tumble > > polished ones have too many impurities to be jewelry, so they're just as cheap > > as the others. > > Um, Ariannawyn, I hate to be picky (okay, I don't hate it, but I feel required > to pretend that I do :), but amethyst is not quartzite. Quartzite is a > metamorphic > rock formed by squishing and cooking sandstone. Amethyst is a mineral, > deposited, like quartz. Agate, for those who care, is a cryptocrystalline (which > > just means lots of tiny crystals) mineral relative of quartz. > > I love your idea (I think it was your idea) to use a handheld tumbled piece of > hard mineral (agate, quartz, amethyst) as a burnisher. Since I'm currently > outfitting not one but two gilding kits, it's a solution I plan to follow. > > Cheers. > Neil > > > -- > // Cornelius Perkins cperkins@nothinbut.net > // http://www.nothinbut.net/~cperkins > // In girum imus nocte et consumimur igni > > ------------------------------ End of scribes digest V1 #4 ***************************