[Antir_scribes] Shield shapes on charters

[AnTir Scribe]

Actually, I thought you were talking about using the populace banner which
is "checky or and argent a dexter tierce sable" as said Elizabeth in one of
the previous notes.

I would absolutely not put the the lion's head on the shield and then let
people paint the field any color they want
(that could potentially conflict with someone's registered heraldry)

I don't think this is too much fuss
It's very important stuff - and all the questions need to be answered

I'm actually quite glad that it came up  :-)

About your other question on it being too much black - I'd probably have to
say yes - its too much black
(Have you ever painted a Jambe Charter - most of the designs that I've seen
just have the outline of the lions arm and claws
I don't think that I've ever seen one that was already filled in for me with
the black color.)

Black Lion said that she would get back to us today sometime - if you can
wait  :-)  ;-)  ;-S

Bronwen




On 10/21/08, Alexis Garrigues <mehitabel19 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>   Thank you for pursuing this- I am thinking that I will leave it blank
> with a prominent note in the cut-off margin to make the shield a solid
> color.  That's my first choice.
> The populace badge would be my 2nd choice; I even found heraldry with a
> profile lion's head in the same manuscript, so I can keep it stylistically
> consistent.  The populace badge is fieldless, isn't it?  So if I fill it in
> with black on the master, would it matter what color the painters make the
> field?  Is it a bad idea to fill in that much black on the master?
> It does occur to me that this may be a lot of fuss for nothing- aside from
> one reign, this award hasn't been presented very often.  However, I would
> like to know how to go about dealing with images of shields, since they are
> so present in medieval art.
> Thanks again,
> Annisa
>
>
> --- On *Mon, 10/20/08, AnTir Scribe <antir.sablesable at gmail.com>* wrote:
>
> From: AnTir Scribe <antir.sablesable at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Antir_scribes] Shield shapes on charters
> To: mehitabel19 at yahoo.com, "Gwen Frost" <gwenliancatharne at hotmail.com>
> Cc: "Ursula Georges" <ursula at math.washington.edu>,
> antir_scribes at castle.org
> Date: Monday, October 20, 2008, 7:58 PM
>
>  Greetings Scribes and Greetings Gwenlian Black Lion,
> I am forwarding this on to Black Lion who can and will give the official
> okay for what can be placed on a shield on a Charter.  I wish that I could
> send her this entire discussion, but I do not know how to do that.
>
> My only problem with using the populace badge is that you would have to
> send instructions to people on how it is to be painted or otherwise people
> might see the design as something they could paint any with whatever colors
> they desired.
>
> We must remember that many charter illuminators are not heralds and may not
> understand what they are looking at :-)
>
> Bronwen
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