[Antir_scribes] Shield shapes on charters

[Arnora]

As both a scribe and a herald I really like the idea of putting the badge on the shield. This would work for almost anything except an AoA I would think.

Even if it already has the badge somewhere else, putting it on the shield sounds good to me. If you can work it so that is the primary depiction - so much the better!

If it is an Award of Arms then the vair, potent or ermine option would probably be best. We scribes have a nasty habit of filling in blanks with pretty stuff!

Now my question: Would it be acceptable to use the An Tir populace badge in an instance like this? Kingdom award, Kingdom resident - makes sense to me.

Arnora
A fan of more heraldry in charter design!


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ursula Georges<mailto:ursula at math.washington.edu> 
  To: mehitabel19 at yahoo.com<mailto:mehitabel19 at yahoo.com> 
  Cc: antir_scribes at castle.org<mailto:antir_scribes at castle.org> 
  Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 12:14 PM
  Subject: Re: [Antir_scribes] Shield shapes on charters


  Alexis Garrigues wrote:
  > I just finished a charter design for the upcoming reign, and on
  > reading the tidbit of info at
  > http://www.scribes.antir.sca.org/Scrolls-Charters/difference.html<http://www.scribes.antir.sca.org/Scrolls-Charters/difference.html> , I
  > am wondering if it will be problematic. I used an illustration from
  > the Manesse Codex as a model, which includes a knight carrying a
  > shield.  I left the face of the shield blank, but am wondering if
  > there will be a problem with painters putting any sort of graphic on
  > this shield- would that be considered "heraldry" and need Herald
  > approval?  

  I would not expect a single-tinctured shield to be an issue, since the 
  SCA doesn't register single tinctures, so a note to the scribe not to 
  decorate the shield should be sufficient.  If you're doing a charter for 
  an order with a registered badge, you could just put the badge on the 
  shield.

  If you're in the mood for a bit of rules-lawyering, there's another way 
  to obstruct scribal initiative: decorate the shield with outlines for 
  vair or potent.

  http://heraldry.sca.org/primer/vair.gif<http://heraldry.sca.org/primer/vair.gif>
  http://heraldry.sca.org/primer/potent.gif<http://heraldry.sca.org/primer/potent.gif>

  This still makes a "single tincture" shield by SCA rules (ermine would 
  work too, were it not reserved for Brittany).

  Ursula Georges.
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