[Antir_scribes] Fw: Antir Culture Wiki - scribal information

[Liesl Andrico]

Greetings fair Bronwen,

I am very sorry to hear of all of the difficulties you have
encountered in getting the web page up.  I do very much look forward
to seeing it and reading through it.

I am in agreement that a web page is needed and is the proper holding
place for guidelines, policies, contact information, and such
materials.  It will be good to have this information available.

Also, I am a firm believer in having a mailing list for the
disemination of relevant information such as changes to information
such as the seal sizing.  This would be reflected in the policies
page, but also everyone would receive the notification.

However, I do believe that a wiki page would augment the scribal page
and email list in areas that perhaps would enhanced by the addition of
commentary or the ability of many people to edit the materials. You
would not want your policies page to be edited and changed by anyone
who came along.  But, you might want people to be able to edit the
recipe for making ink, adding in such comments as to use an iron pot
instead of an aluminin pot, or that the boiling times vary depending
on humidity and elevation, for example.  Such comments are things that
we have seen in the scribal list come across, but I do not believe are
appropriate for a web page.  They fit much better in the wiki format.

I would like to encourage you to consider delegating the creation of
the wiki page to those scribes who are interested.  In areas where the
content is already addressed by the An Tir scribal web page links
could be made to these materials to ensure the proper information is
communicated.

I humbly remain your servant,

Lady Tevenete de Charolais
Scribe, Dragon's Mist
Portland, OR






On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 12:19 PM, AnTir Scribe
<antir.sablesable at gmail.com> wrote:
>  Greetings from Bronwen,
>
>
> Tevenete de Charolais wrote:
>
> <For the past several years I have been gathering the information sent out
> on this list.  Recently I encountered the An Tir culture wiki, and I would
> like to create a page or series of pages on illumination information that
> could be updated and edited by scribes.>
>
> I don't want to say that this is not a good idea - because in our present
> circumstances, it seems like a really good idea.
>
>
> However,
>
> The AnTir Scribes do have a website.
>
> We all know that the website is not yet what it needs to be - and hopefully,
> everyone also knows that it is being worked on.
>
> Here is the current situation.
>
> Since July Coronation - when I became Kingdom Scribe, I have worked
> diligently to get assistance from the Server Owner (where the scribal
> website resides) to gain access to the site for updating.  When
> communication was finally started - we worked at it for a week or so (I have
> two new programs for accessing ftp sites on my computer now) but alas, I
> could not gain access to the site server.
>
> I engaged four Information Technology Professionals from
> different businesses to see if it is something on my end that is causing the
> failure.  Two of them came to my home and worked on my computer and then
> went back to their own businesses and tried various things on their
> computers.  All reported that the problem is at the Server end.  This
> was all reported to the Server Owner with additional requests for assistance
> - however, at this time, the Server Owner has not responded to these
> requests for the last 7 weeks or so.
>
> I have started correspondence with the Kingdom Website Team to get space on
> the Kingdom Server for the Scribal Website.  I do not know if the venture
> will be successful.
>
> I received some assistance from an Information Technology Professional in
> gathering most of the html files for the site and I do hope to move the
> website to a new home soon.
>
> but,
> what we have to put on a new home is not up-to-date and is not complete.  If
> I moved the site today, a number of the links would be broken as I do not
> have all the html files for the site and they need to be recreated.
> Additionally last weekend, I began updating the "Contacts" pages for the
> site - so that when it is moved, those pages will be current (that was an
> approximate 10 hour project and is approximately 90% complete)
>
>  When the site is ready and does get moved to a new home, I will ask the
> scribal community for ideas on what they would like to see added or changed
> on the site.
>
> At that time, the information that Tevenete spoke of putting on a Wiki page
> should be added to the website.
>
>
> I have thought about turning off the link to the webpage and putting up a
> page that says "Under Construction" - but I am afraid of losing my ability
> to see what is there while I still may need to gather info from it.
>
> I have to beg you all for a little more patience - I'm sorry it is taking so
> long.
>
> Three reasons for the wait.
> 1) I wanted to get a message out in the Crier - looking for a Web Minister
> (it came out in the October Crier but remember that it had to be in to the
> Crier Editor two months before it would be printed [was sent in August].
>
> 2) I wanted a Web Minister to do what I am now doing (because I have other
> things that need my attention, however, no Web Minister as of yet - but
> could not wait any longer to get things moving).
>
> 3) I wanted to make what we already had work and tried to give ample
> time (for courtesy sake) to the server owner to get it working (The site
> would probably already be updated if we had been successful when I started
> my attempts to gain access to the site).
>
> Anyway...
> thats the long story
>
> Also, I have just within the last few days been in contact with an
> individual who may decide to be a web minister for us and that is very
> encouraging.
>
> This change over to a new e-mail address for the Kingdom Scribe has put a
> big chunk of stuff in the way of other things.  I took the day off from work
> today to try and move and organize all the past scribal e-mails into this
> new venue.  I'm excited about it as I think that it will help with some
> problems that I have been encountering with technical stuff.
>
> I hope this update has been informative and that you all can still
> have patience with me in fixing our website
>
> thank-you
>
> YIS
> Bronwen
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